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This is such a helpful thread! I'm dealing with a similar situation where my client filed Form 966 but now wants to continue operations. One thing I wanted to add from my experience - make sure to document the timing of when the abandonment decision was made versus when any liquidating distributions might have already occurred. If partial distributions were made after the Form 966 filing but before the abandonment, those might need special treatment. The IRS could view those as liquidating distributions even if the overall plan is later abandoned. I learned this the hard way when a client had already distributed some assets to shareholders before changing their mind. Also, keep detailed records of the corporate decision-making process. The IRS may want to see evidence that the abandonment was a legitimate business decision and not just tax avoidance. Board minutes, shareholder resolutions, and documentation of the changed business circumstances can all be important if you're ever questioned about the abandonment. The guidance about sending a statement to the IRS service center is spot on - just make sure it's comprehensive and references all the relevant dates and corporate actions.
This is incredibly valuable information! The point about partial distributions is something I hadn't fully considered. In our case, we haven't made any distributions yet since filing the Form 966, but this is definitely something to keep in mind for future situations. Your advice about documenting the business reasons for abandonment is particularly helpful. We have legitimate changed circumstances (new contracts and market opportunities that weren't available when we initially decided to liquidate), so we'll make sure to have the board formally document these reasons in the resolution. Thanks for sharing your experience - it's exactly these kinds of practical details that make the difference between doing this right and potentially creating problems down the road!
Great thread everyone! I'm a tax advisor who's handled several Form 966 reversals, and I wanted to add a few practical points that might help others in similar situations. First, timing is crucial when documenting the abandonment. The IRS generally wants to see that the decision to abandon was made for legitimate business reasons, not just to avoid tax consequences. Make sure your corporate minutes clearly state the business justification for continuing operations. Second, if you're in a state that requires annual franchise tax filings, check whether your Form 966 filing affected your state tax status. Some states automatically change your filing requirements once they're notified of dissolution plans, so you may need to update your state tax registration as well. Finally, consider the impact on any tax elections that might have been made in conjunction with the liquidation plan. For example, if you made a Section 338 election or any other special elections related to the liquidation, you'll need to evaluate whether those need to be addressed separately. The advice about sending a signed statement to the IRS service center is absolutely correct - just make sure it includes the EIN, original Form 966 filing date, and a clear statement that the plan has been formally abandoned by appropriate corporate action with the date of that action.
This is exactly the kind of comprehensive guidance I was hoping to find! As someone new to handling corporate dissolutions, I really appreciate you mentioning the Section 338 election issue - that's something I would never have thought to consider. Quick question about the state franchise tax implications you mentioned: if a corporation filed Form 966 but never actually dissolved at the state level (like in the original post), would there typically still be franchise tax complications? Or is that mainly an issue when actual state dissolution paperwork was filed? Also, do you have any recommendations for the specific language to use in the statement to the IRS? I want to make sure we get the wording right the first time rather than having to file additional clarifications later. Thanks for sharing your expertise - this thread has been incredibly educational for someone still learning the intricacies of corporate tax law!
Quick tip - don't forget to separate out the land value! I made this mistake my first year with a rental property and had my depreciation rejected. You can only depreciate the building, not the land. Most tax assessor records break this out. Also, keep in mind that gifted property has different holding period rules for capital gains when you eventually sell. The holding period includes the time your dad owned it too!
I thought rental properties were depreciated over 27.5 years regardless of the actual building's age? My accountant took the purchase price minus the tax assessed land value and divided by 27.5. Is that wrong?
You're absolutely right about the 27.5 year depreciation period for residential rental property - that's correct! What Yuki was emphasizing is that you need to make sure you're only depreciating the building portion, not the land. So your accountant's method of taking the total basis minus the land value and then dividing by 27.5 is exactly the right approach. The key point is that land never depreciates (since it doesn't wear out), so it has to be separated from the depreciable building value. Most people use the same ratio that the tax assessor uses - if the assessor says the land is 20% of the total value and the building is 80%, you'd apply that same ratio to your cost basis.
This is a really complex situation, but you're asking the right questions! Based on what you've described, it sounds like you have a mixed gift/inheritance scenario which does complicate the basis calculation. One thing I'd suggest is checking if your dad filed Form 709 (gift tax return) when he added you to the deed in 2016. Even if no gift tax was owed (due to the annual exclusion or lifetime exemption), he may have filed one anyway. If he did, that form would show the fair market value of the property at the time of the gift, which would be incredibly helpful for your basis calculation. If you can't find a Form 709, using the 2016 tax assessment as a starting point isn't unreasonable, but as others mentioned, you might want to adjust it upward since assessments are typically below market value. You could research what similar properties in your neighborhood sold for in 2016 to get a sense of whether the assessment was in the right ballpark. Also, don't forget to account for any improvements your dad made to the property after his original purchase - those would increase his basis, which would then carry over to you for the gifted portion. The depreciation calculation can definitely be overwhelming, but taking it step by step and documenting your reasoning will serve you well if you're ever questioned about it later.
This is really helpful advice, especially about checking for Form 709! I never would have thought to look for that. Quick question though - if my dad didn't file a gift tax return, does that create any issues for me now? I'm worried that maybe he was supposed to file one and didn't, and that could somehow come back to bite me during my depreciation calculations or if I get audited later. Also, when you mention adjusting the tax assessment upward, is there a standard percentage that's typically used, or do I really need to do the research on comparable sales? I'm trying to balance being accurate with not spending weeks on this!
I just went through this exact decision last month and ended up going with TurboTax's refund advance. The main selling point for me was avoiding the prepaid card situation that HR Block requires. What really helped me make the decision was doing a side-by-side comparison of the fees and requirements. TurboTax's advance had no upfront fees (they make money on the tax prep), while HR Block's Emerald Card has some hidden costs if you're not careful about ATM usage. The approval process with TurboTax was surprisingly quick - I submitted my application around 2 PM on a Tuesday and had the money in my checking account by Thursday morning. They approved me for $3,800 of my projected $4,900 refund. One tip I'd share: make sure you have your previous year's AGI handy when you apply, as both services use this for identity verification. Also, if you're planning to direct deposit to a new bank account, do a small test deposit first to make sure the routing and account numbers are correct. With your $5,400 expected refund, you should have no trouble getting approved for a substantial advance from either service. But honestly, the convenience of TurboTax's direct deposit approach made it a no-brainer for me.
That's really helpful to hear about your recent experience! I'm definitely leaning toward TurboTax now based on all the feedback about avoiding the prepaid card hassle. Quick question about the approval amount - when they approved you for $3,800 of your $4,900 projection, did they give you any explanation for why it wasn't closer to the full amount? I'm trying to figure out if there's a standard percentage they stick to or if it varies based on individual circumstances. Also, that's a great tip about testing the bank account info first - I definitely don't want to deal with any deposit issues after getting approved!
I've been comparing refund advance options too, and one thing that helped me decide was looking at the customer service experiences people have had with each service. From what I've researched, TurboTax tends to have better support for advance-related issues since everything is handled through their main customer service channels. With HR Block's Emerald Card system, you sometimes end up having to deal with both HR Block AND the card issuer if there are problems, which can create a runaround situation. Another factor to consider is what happens if your actual refund ends up being less than projected. Both services will still get their money back first (they're protected), but TurboTax's direct deposit system seems to handle the reconciliation more smoothly. I've heard of cases where people with the Emerald Card had to wait longer to access remaining funds when there were discrepancies. For someone expecting a $5,400 refund like you, the streamlined approach of TurboTax probably makes the most sense. The direct deposit eliminates potential card-related delays, and their approval rates seem pretty consistent for straightforward tax situations. Just make sure to double-check all your income figures before applying - accuracy really is key to avoiding complications down the road!
That's fantastic news! The status change you're describing is definitely a positive sign that you've cleared the verification hurdle. I went through something very similar about 6 weeks ago with some new 1099-B forms from stock trades, and that exact same progression happened - "still being processed" with verification notice for about 3 weeks, then suddenly it switched to just "being processed" with no verification language. What really stood out to me reading your post is how you mentioned being "usually pretty organized" - that actually works in your favor here. The IRS verification process seems to be more about confirming identity when there are new income sources rather than looking for problems with your actual filing. Investment income, especially if it's your first year reporting it or if the amounts are significantly different from previous years, almost always triggers some additional review. From my experience and what I've seen others share, you're probably looking at about 7-14 days before you see the next status update. The verification notice disappearing completely is really the key indicator that you've moved past the security review phase. Keep checking WMR daily, but try not to stress about it too much - it sounds like you're through the hardest part of the wait now!
This is such a relief to read! I'm completely new to this whole process and have been stressed about my WMR status for weeks. Like you mentioned, I'm usually pretty organized with my taxes too, but this year I had some dividend income from a few index funds for the first time. I've been seeing that same "still being processed" message with the verification notice, and honestly, I was starting to wonder if I'd made some kind of mistake on my return. Reading everyone's experiences here about the verification notice disappearing being such a positive indicator is really reassuring. It's helpful to know that the IRS just seems to be extra careful when there are new income sources rather than necessarily finding problems with the filing itself. Thanks for sharing your timeline - knowing that 7-14 days is typical after this status change helps me set realistic expectations instead of checking WMR every few hours hoping for instant updates!
This is exactly the progression you want to see! I had a very similar experience last year when I started reporting some dividend income from my brokerage account. That status change from "still being processed" with the verification notice to just "being processed" without it is a really reliable indicator that you've successfully cleared the identity verification stage. The IRS verification system is actually pretty sophisticated - they don't remove that verification prompt unless they've completed whatever identity confirmation checks they needed to run. Investment income, particularly if it's new for your tax situation or represents a significant change from previous years, almost always triggers additional review during processing. Based on my experience and what I've observed from others in similar situations, you're now probably looking at about 5-10 business days before you see the status update to "approved," followed by your refund being issued within 1-3 business days after that. The complete disappearance of that verification language is really the key signal here - it indicates you've moved past the security review phase. Keep monitoring WMR daily, but you should be able to relax a bit now. The verification hold was definitely the biggest potential bottleneck, and it sounds like you've successfully navigated through that stage. Your organized approach to taxes likely helped ensure everything was in order for their review!
This is incredibly helpful and reassuring! I'm brand new to this community and just found this thread while searching for answers about my own WMR status changes. I'm in almost the exact same situation - first year dealing with investment income (some mutual fund distributions and a small capital gain) and I've been watching that "still being processed" message with growing anxiety for the past couple weeks. Just checked this morning and saw the same change everyone's describing - the verification notice has completely disappeared and now it just says "being processed." Reading all these similar experiences and timelines from people who've actually been through this process is such a huge relief. I was starting to worry that I'd made some error on my return, but it sounds like this additional review for new investment income is totally normal. The 5-10 day timeline you mentioned for moving to "approved" status gives me realistic expectations to work with. Thanks so much for taking the time to share your experience - this kind of real-world insight is exactly what I needed to hear right now!
Evelyn Kelly
Has anyone tried MileIQ for retroactively creating logs? My accountant mentioned it but I'm not sure if it can help with past years or just going forward.
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Paloma Clark
ā¢MileIQ is primarily for tracking current/future trips. For past years, I'd recommend a spreadsheet approach where you manually enter the data from whatever sources you have. Google Timeline history + a spreadsheet template worked best for me.
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Yuki Sato
One thing that really helped me when I had to reconstruct my 2017 mileage logs was creating a "typical week" template first. I looked at my calendar patterns and identified my regular business destinations, then calculated standard routes between them. For example, if I went to Client A every Monday and Client B every Wednesday, I could establish those as baseline trips and then look for variations. This approach helped me avoid over-estimating miles while still capturing the bulk of my business travel. Also, don't forget to check your car insurance records - sometimes they have annual mileage estimates that can help validate your totals. And if you had any major car repairs or oil changes, those service records often include odometer readings that can serve as checkpoints for your reconstruction. The IRS generally accepts reasonable reconstructions as long as you can show you made a good faith effort using available evidence. Document your methodology clearly - explain what sources you used and how you calculated the mileage. This transparency actually helps your case if you're ever questioned about it.
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Liam McGuire
ā¢This is really smart advice! I never thought about using insurance records or service receipts as validation points. That "typical week" approach makes so much sense too - it would definitely help establish credible patterns rather than trying to remember every single trip from years ago. Quick question - when you say "document your methodology clearly," did you create like a separate explanation document, or did you just add notes within your mileage log spreadsheet? I want to make sure I'm presenting this the right way if I ever need to defend it.
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