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Luca Esposito

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Welcome to the working world! That tax shock is real and hits everyone hard on their first paycheck. A few things that might help explain what you're seeing: First, double-check your pay stub breakdown - make sure you're not confusing pre-tax deductions (like health insurance, 401k contributions, HSA) with actual taxes. These reduce your take-home but aren't technically "taxes." Second, your effective tax rate should be lower than 31% even as a single filer. At $58k, your federal marginal rate is likely 22%, but your effective rate (what you actually pay) should be closer to 12-15% once you factor in the standard deduction. If you're seeing much higher federal withholding, your W-4 might need adjustment. Also consider that your state matters hugely - if you're in a high-tax state like California or New York, combined with local taxes, 31% total withholding becomes more realistic. But if you're in a no-income-tax state like Texas or Florida, that percentage suggests something's off. I'd recommend waiting to see your second paycheck before making major changes, as others mentioned the first one can be calculated incorrectly. Then compare your actual withholding percentages to online calculators to see if adjustments are needed.

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Yara Abboud

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This is such helpful advice! I think I was definitely panicking after seeing that first number. You're right that I should look more carefully at the breakdown - I was just seeing the total amount missing from my gross pay and assuming it was all taxes. I'm in Colorado so there is state income tax, plus I just realized Denver has that local tax too. When I break it down piece by piece like you suggested, it's starting to make more sense even though it still stings to see that much money gone! I'll definitely wait for my second paycheck before making any W-4 changes. Hopefully the withholding will level out once the payroll system has more consistent data to work with.

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Malik Thomas

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The sticker shock of that first paycheck is brutal, but you're definitely not alone in feeling overwhelmed by it! One thing I'd suggest is using the IRS withholding calculator on their website - it's free and can help you determine if your current W-4 settings are appropriate for your situation. Since you mentioned student loans, make sure you're aware that you can deduct up to $2,500 in student loan interest on your tax return, which effectively reduces your taxable income. While this doesn't directly affect your paycheck withholding, it's something to keep in mind when planning your finances. Also, if you're feeling like too much is being withheld, remember that it's better to get a smaller refund and have more money in your pocket each month than to give the government an interest-free loan all year. You can always adjust your W-4 throughout the year if needed - you're not locked into your initial selection. The good news is that once you get through your first year of working, tax planning becomes much more predictable. You'll have a better sense of your actual tax liability and can fine-tune your withholdings accordingly.

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Adrian Hughes

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This is really reassuring to hear! I keep forgetting that I can actually adjust my W-4 throughout the year if needed - for some reason I thought I was stuck with whatever I initially filled out until next January. The student loan interest deduction is something I hadn't even thought about. I'm paying about $300/month right now, so that should definitely add up to a decent deduction by tax time. Is there a way to factor that into my W-4 withholding now, or do I just have to wait until I file my return to see the benefit? You're absolutely right about preferring more money each month versus a big refund. I'd much rather put that extra cash toward my loans now instead of waiting for the government to give it back to me next year!

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Anna Stewart

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You can actually factor in the student loan interest deduction on your W-4! On the current form, you can use Step 4(b) to add expected deductions beyond the standard deduction. If you're paying $300/month ($3,600/year), you can likely deduct the full amount since the limit is $2,500 and phases out at higher income levels. To estimate the withholding impact: divide your expected student loan interest deduction by the number of pay periods in a year. So $2,500 divided by 26 pay periods (if you're paid bi-weekly) equals about $96 per paycheck that you can add to line 4(b). This should reduce your federal withholding by roughly $20-25 per check. Just make sure to keep good records of your actual interest payments since you'll need them when filing. Your loan servicer should send you a 1098-E form at the end of the year showing exactly how much interest you paid.

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Aisha Abdullah

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The timing of your exit is actually really important for tax purposes. Since you're leaving at the end of this quarter, make sure your partnership agreement clearly defines your "tax year end" vs your actual departure date. I had a similar situation where I left my LLC in October, but because our partnership used a calendar tax year, I was still allocated income through December 31st even though I wasn't actively involved. This can work in your favor or against you depending on how profitable the business is in Q4. Also, don't forget about self-employment taxes! Your $3,300 share will likely be subject to SE tax in addition to regular income tax. If you haven't been making quarterly estimated payments, you might want to calculate if you'll owe a penalty and consider making a payment before year-end. One last thing - if your LLC has been depreciating any assets, there might be depreciation recapture implications when you exit. It's worth having someone review this even for a small partnership.

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Chris King

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This is really helpful information! I hadn't even thought about the self-employment tax aspect. Since I'm leaving at the end of Q1, would I need to make an estimated payment by April 15th for the income I earned during the quarter I was still a partner? Or can I wait until I file my regular tax return? Also, regarding the depreciation recapture - we don't have major assets, but we did buy some office furniture and a few computers over the years. Would that be something I need to worry about even if I'm not taking any of the equipment with me?

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QuantumQuasar

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For estimated payments, since you're leaving at the end of Q1, you'd typically need to make a payment by April 15th if your total tax liability (including SE tax on that $3,300) will create an underpayment situation. The safe harbor rule is generally to pay 100% of last year's tax liability (110% if your prior year AGI exceeded $150,000) through withholding and estimated payments. Regarding depreciation recapture - even if you're not taking equipment with you, your exit from the partnership can still trigger recapture if the partnership has a Section 754 election in place or if there's a substantial built-in loss. For small amounts like office furniture and computers, it's probably not a major concern, but the partnership should provide details on your K-1 about any Section 1245 or Section 1250 recapture that flows through to you. The key is making sure your departing partner allocation properly accounts for these items. I'd recommend asking your remaining partners if they've made any special tax elections over the years - it could save you some surprises come tax time.

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One crucial detail that hasn't been mentioned yet is making sure your partnership properly closes the books on your departure date. Many small LLCs get sloppy about this and just use a simple proration method, but that can really hurt you tax-wise. For example, if your LLC has seasonal income patterns or major expenses that hit at certain times of year, a simple day-count allocation might not reflect your actual economic participation. You have the right to request a "closing of the books" method under Section 706, which calculates your exact share of income and expenses up to your departure date. This is especially important for things like depreciation, prepaid expenses, and accrued income. I've seen cases where departing partners got stuck with a full year's worth of depreciation recapture or missed out on major contract income that was earned during their time but received after they left. Also, make sure someone tracks your capital account properly through your departure. Your basis calculation affects everything from how distributions are taxed to potential phantom income issues. Small partnerships often don't maintain proper capital account records, but you'll need this information for your final K-1 and any future dealings with your former partners.

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Paige Cantoni

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This is incredibly detailed advice - thank you! I'm definitely going to ask about the "closing of the books" method since our LLC's income is pretty seasonal (we do more business in the summer months). Quick question about capital accounts - our LLC has been pretty informal about record keeping. What happens if we don't have proper capital account records? Is there a way to reconstruct them, or does that create problems for my exit? Also, when you mention "phantom income issues," what exactly does that mean in this context? I want to make sure I understand all the potential pitfalls before I finalize my departure.

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QuantumQuester

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Based on my experience with home improvements and tax planning, I'd strongly recommend being conservative with tool costs. The IRS is pretty clear that tools remain your personal property and don't become part of the home's basis, regardless of whether you use them again. However, there are some legitimate expenses you might be overlooking that DO count toward basis: - Disposal/dump fees for old materials - Delivery charges for materials - Rental fees for equipment (since you don't retain ownership) - Permits and inspection fees - Consumable supplies that are used up (sandpaper, caulk, paint brushes that get ruined, etc.) I'd focus on maximizing these clear-cut qualifying expenses rather than risking audit issues with tool costs. The "ask forgiveness later" approach might work for small amounts, but with major tool purchases it could really complicate things if you're audited. For tracking, I've found that taking photos of your receipts immediately and organizing them by project date works better than relying on any single software solution. Most importantly, write notes on receipts explaining how each expense relates to the specific improvement project.

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Heather Tyson

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This is really helpful advice! I hadn't thought about disposal fees and delivery charges - I definitely have receipts for both from my recent projects. Quick question though: what about materials I bought but didn't end up using? I have about $300 worth of leftover pavers from my patio project that are just sitting in my garage. Do those still count toward my basis even though they're not actually installed?

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Alexis Renard

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Great question about unused materials! Generally, only materials that are actually incorporated into the improvement count toward your basis. Those leftover pavers sitting in your garage haven't increased your home's value yet, so they wouldn't qualify for basis inclusion. However, if you plan to use them for a future home improvement project, you could include them in that project's basis when you actually install them. Just make sure to keep the original receipt and note which project they ultimately get used for. The key test is whether the expense actually resulted in a permanent improvement to your property. Unused materials in storage don't meet that test, even though you purchased them with good intentions for the original project.

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I've been dealing with this exact issue for my recent kitchen renovation! After going through all the advice here and doing some additional research, I ended up taking a hybrid approach that's worked well for me. For tools, I created two categories: "Project-Specific Consumables" and "Reusable Tools." Things like specialty drill bits that got destroyed during the project, disposable brushes, sandpaper, etc. went into the first category and I included those in my basis. The reusable power tools (circular saw, router, etc.) I kept separate since they clearly remain my personal property. One thing I learned that might help others: if you rent tools instead of buying them, those rental costs definitely qualify for your basis since you don't retain ownership. So for my tile work, I rented a wet saw for $75 rather than buying one for $300, and that rental fee went straight into my improvement costs. Also discovered that waste removal costs are often overlooked but totally legitimate - I had about $400 in dumpster rental and disposal fees that I initially forgot about but definitely count toward basis. The key is being able to show that every expense you claim directly contributed to permanently improving your property's value. Good documentation and photos make all the difference if questions ever come up later.

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Manny Lark

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This hybrid approach makes so much sense! I never thought about the rental vs. purchase angle for tools. That's actually brilliant - you get the same functionality for the project but the expense clearly qualifies since you don't keep the equipment. I'm curious about the waste removal costs you mentioned. Did you include things like multiple trips to the dump in your personal vehicle, or just the dumpster rental fee? I made probably 10 trips hauling old concrete and dirt in my truck during my patio project, and I'm wondering if those fuel costs could count as disposal expenses. Also, your point about documentation is spot on. I started taking before/during/after photos of everything after reading these comments, and it's already helping me remember details about what materials went where when I'm organizing my receipts.

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Thanks everyone for all the great suggestions! I'm definitely going to try a few of these options. The automatic document scanning feature that @Ethan Clark mentioned with taxr.ai sounds really appealing since I hate manually entering all those 1099 boxes - I always worry I'm going to mess something up. I'm also intrigued by the VITA program @Emma Johnson suggested. I didn't know that was a thing! Having someone walk through everything with me in person might be worth it for peace of mind, especially since this is my first year dealing with multiple 1099s. Quick question for anyone who's used these services - do any of them handle estimated tax payments for next year? Since I'll probably have similar 1099 income next year, I want to make sure I don't get hit with underpayment penalties.

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Liam Sullivan

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Great question about estimated taxes! Most of the software options mentioned (FreeTaxUSA, TaxAct, Cash App Taxes) do include estimated tax calculators that will help you figure out what to pay quarterly next year based on your current year's income. They'll usually suggest amounts and give you vouchers you can print out or set up online payments. VITA volunteers are also trained to help with estimated tax planning - that's actually one of the really valuable things about going that route since they can walk you through the whole process and explain why you might need to make quarterly payments. If you end up going with the document scanning route (taxr.ai), I'd double-check that they include estimated tax planning in their free version. The traditional software providers usually include this as a standard feature, but newer services sometimes focus more on the current year filing and less on planning ahead. Either way, definitely worth setting up those quarterly payments if you're expecting similar 1099 income next year - learned that lesson the hard way my first year freelancing!

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Santiago Diaz

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I've been in a similar situation and ended up using a combination approach that worked really well. For the actual filing, I went with FreeTaxUSA since it truly handles all 1099 forms for free (federal), but I also used one of those document scanning services mentioned here to extract all the data first, then manually entered it into FreeTaxUSA. This gave me the best of both worlds - the accuracy of automated data extraction without worrying about hidden fees. The scanning caught details I probably would have missed, and FreeTaxUSA's interface made it easy to double-check everything was entered correctly. One tip: if you do go the manual entry route with any software, take photos of all your forms with your phone first. That way if you get interrupted or the software times out, you don't have to dig through all your paperwork again. Also, most of these services will save your progress, so you can take breaks if it gets overwhelming. For estimated taxes next year, definitely set those up - the IRS has an online payment system (EFTPS) that makes quarterly payments pretty painless once you're registered.

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Rudy Cenizo

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That's a really smart hybrid approach! I never thought about using document scanning to extract the data first, then entering it into a different software. That actually sounds like the perfect solution for someone like me who wants accuracy but also wants to stick with truly free options. Quick question about the EFTPS system you mentioned - is that pretty straightforward to set up? I've never dealt with estimated payments before and the whole quarterly thing seems intimidating. Also, do you know if there's a minimum amount you need to pay, or can you just estimate based on what you think you'll make? Thanks for the phone photo tip too - I definitely would not have thought of that and probably would have ended up shuffling through papers multiple times!

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Evelyn Kim

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Quick question - does anyone know if tax software like TurboTax handles this kind of cash income reporting well? Or is it better to use a specialized self-employment tool?

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Diego Fisher

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I used TurboTax last year for my dog walking side gig. It was pretty straightforward - it asks you questions about your business income and expenses, and fills out Schedule C for you. The only annoying thing was that the really helpful features are only in the Self-Employed version which costs more.

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Mohammed Khan

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Just wanted to share my experience since I was in almost the exact same situation last year! I was doing landscaping and pet sitting for neighbors, all cash payments, and made about $3,800. You definitely need to report it all on Schedule C - there's no minimum threshold for reporting income, even if it's just $50. What really helped me was setting up a simple notebook where I wrote down every payment as soon as I got it. Date, amount, what the work was for. Super basic but it saved me when tax time came. One thing that caught me off guard was the self-employment tax. Since you made over $400, you'll owe about 15.3% of your net earnings for Social Security and Medicare on top of regular income tax. It's calculated on Schedule SE. But remember you can deduct business expenses - gas for driving to jobs, tools you bought specifically for the work, even supplies for dog sitting like leashes or treats if you provided them. The whole thing seemed overwhelming at first but once I got through it the first time, it wasn't nearly as bad as I expected. Just keep good records and you'll be fine!

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Debra Bai

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This is super helpful, thank you! The self-employment tax part is what I'm most worried about since I had no idea that was even a thing. So just to make sure I understand - if I made $4,200, I'd owe about 15.3% of that (around $643) PLUS whatever regular income tax applies to that amount? That seems like a lot more than I was expecting to pay. Also, for the business expenses - do you have any examples of what kind of receipts the IRS would want to see? Like if I bought a rake for yard work, do I need to keep that receipt even though it was only $25?

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