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Victoria Brown

Just got married - confused about exemptions on W-4. What's the difference & how many should I claim?

Hey tax friends! Just got married this past October and I'm super confused about how to fill out my W-4 for 2025. Both my husband and I work full-time (I'm in retail management, he's in IT). No kids or dependents yet. I've been staring at this W-4 form trying to figure out what to put for exemptions and honestly I'm lost. I've always just put "1" on everything when I was single, but now I'm not sure if that's right anymore. What exactly is the difference between claiming 0, 1, or 2 exemptions? Does it matter that we're both working? Also, I keep hearing about "allowances" vs "exemptions" - are those the same thing or different? My coworker said I should claim 0 so I get a big refund, but my dad says to claim 2 so the government doesn't "get a free loan of my money." I'm so confused! Would really appreciate any advice. I've been an "adult" for a while but some of this tax stuff still makes me feel like I'm 18 again and have no clue what I'm doing.

Hey there! The W-4 form actually changed significantly a few years back, and they don't use the "exemptions" or "allowances" terminology anymore. The new form is designed to be more accurate by having you provide specific information about your tax situation. Since both you and your spouse work, you'll want to pay special attention to Step 2 of the W-4 form. You have three options there: (a) using the online estimator, (b) using the worksheet, or (c) checking the box if there are only two jobs total. The simplest approach would be checking the box in option (c) if you only have the two jobs between you. If you want the most accurate withholding, use the IRS Tax Withholding Estimator online. This will help account for both incomes and give you the most precise recommendation for your withholding.

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Thank you so much! I think I must have an outdated form or something because mine definitely still has a line for "exemptions" - weird! Should I ask HR for an updated form? Or does it depend on what state you're in? I'm in Pennsylvania if that makes a difference. Also, what exactly does the withholding estimator do? Will it tell me exactly what to put on each line of the W-4?

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You might be looking at a state tax form rather than the federal W-4. Some states still use exemption terminology on their state withholding forms. Pennsylvania does have its own form (PA W-4), which is different from the federal one. Check with your HR to make sure you're filling out both the federal W-4 and any required state forms correctly. The IRS Withholding Estimator walks you through a series of questions about your income, filing status, and tax situation. After completing it, it provides specific instructions for each line of the federal W-4. It's very helpful for married couples with two incomes since it calculates the additional withholding needed to cover the higher tax bracket that might apply when your incomes are combined.

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Did it explain the difference between the old exemptions system and the new one? I'm still confused about that part. Also, can you use it if you haven't received your first paycheck from a new job yet?

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Yes, it had a whole explanation about how the old system used personal allowances (basically the more allowances you claimed, the less tax was withheld) whereas the new system is more straightforward about accounting for multiple incomes, dependents, and other adjustments. It was really clear about connecting the old and new systems. You can definitely use it without a current paystub. You just need to know your approximate salary and pay frequency (weekly, biweekly, monthly) and it can work with that information to give you estimates.

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Just wanted to follow up and say I tried taxr.ai and it was actually super helpful! I don't know why I was so confused before. The tool explained that what we used to call "exemptions" on the old W-4 were basically placeholders for things that would reduce your taxes (like being married or having kids). The new form is more direct - instead of converting those things into "exemptions," you just tell the IRS about your situation (married, kids, multiple jobs) and they adjust withholding accordingly. I printed out the completed W-4 it generated with all the right boxes filled in and just handed it to HR. Much easier than I thought it would be!

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LongPeri

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Just a quick tip from someone who's been married a few years and does the finances: if you both make roughly similar incomes, check the box in Step 2(c) of the W-4 for "two jobs total." If your incomes are very different (like one person makes way more than the other), use the worksheet or online calculator for more accurate withholding. The "exemptions" system on the old forms was super confusing. The new system is more straightforward, but it can still result in underwithholding if you don't account for both jobs correctly.

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Thanks for this tip! My husband makes about $76,000 and I make around $52,000 - would that be considered "roughly similar" or "very different"? Sorry if that's a dumb question!

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LongPeri

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That's not a dumb question at all! Your incomes are actually in a decent range to use the "check the box" method. The IRS considers incomes "similar" when they're in the same general tax bracket. Since both of your incomes are in the middle brackets, checking the box in Step 2(c) would work fine. If there was a huge difference (like one person making $30,000 and the other making $150,000), that's when I'd definitely use the more detailed worksheet or online calculator. But for your situation, the checkbox should work well!

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Oscar O'Neil

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Don't overthink this! I've been married 10+ years and here's my simple advice: if you want a bigger refund next year, put "Married filing jointly" and don't check the box in Step 2(c). If you're okay with possibly owing a bit at tax time but having bigger paychecks throughout the year, check the box. The old exemptions/allowances system was more confusing because you had to guess how many to claim. The new form is better but still not perfect.

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This is backwards advice. If you DON'T check the box when both spouses work, you'll likely UNDERWITHHOLD and OWE taxes. If you DO check the box, you'll likely withhold the correct amount or slightly overwithhold. Please don't spread misinformation.

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Mei Lin

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Hey Victoria! Congrats on getting married! I totally understand the confusion - the W-4 changes a few years back made things different from what many of us learned when we first started working. Just to clarify what others have mentioned: the current federal W-4 (2020 and later) doesn't use "exemptions" anymore. If you're seeing that terminology, you might have an old form or be looking at your Pennsylvania state form (PA does still use some of the old language). For your situation as a newly married couple with two jobs, here's the simplest approach: 1. Both of you should select "Married filing jointly" in Step 1 2. In Step 2, since you have exactly two jobs total between you, check the box in option (c) - this tells the system to account for both incomes properly 3. Skip Steps 3 and 4 unless you have dependents or want to make adjustments 4. Sign and date The key difference from the old system: instead of claiming a number of allowances/exemptions, the new form directly accounts for your actual tax situation (marriage, multiple jobs, dependents, etc.). It's designed to be more accurate for situations like yours where both spouses work. Your coworker and dad both have points, but the goal should be accurate withholding rather than maximizing refunds or minimizing them. The new system helps achieve that better than the old one did!

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This is such a clear explanation, thank you! I think I was definitely looking at an old form or maybe mixing up the federal and state forms. One quick follow-up question - when you say "check the box in option (c)" for Step 2, does that mean we both check it on our individual W-4s, or just one of us? And does it matter who submits their W-4 first to HR? I really appreciate everyone's help on this thread. Makes me feel a lot less overwhelmed about the whole thing!

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