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One thing that might help clarify the tax implications for your son: he'll need Form 1099-B from his broker showing the sale proceeds, but the broker won't have the correct cost basis since they didn't know your original purchase price. Your son will need to report the correct basis (your original cost) on Form 8949 and Schedule D. This is a common source of confusion because the 1099-B might show the basis as the gift date value or even blank, but for tax purposes, your son must use your original purchase price as his basis. Make sure he has documentation of your original cost basis and purchase date - he'll need both to file correctly. The IRS computers will match the sale proceeds from the 1099-B, so it's crucial that he reports the transaction properly to avoid any automated notices. Also, since you mentioned the stock price didn't change between gift and sale, this makes the documentation easier since there's no question about the fair market value at the time of transfer.
This is really helpful information about the Form 1099-B discrepancy! I had a similar situation last year where the broker's 1099-B showed a completely different basis than what I actually needed to report. It was confusing at first because I thought there might be an error, but then I realized the broker simply didn't have access to the original owner's purchase information. One thing I'd add is that it's worth keeping a copy of any gift documentation (like a gift letter or transfer confirmation) along with the original purchase records. When I filed my taxes, I attached a statement explaining the basis adjustment to help clarify why my reported basis differed from what appeared on the 1099-B. My tax preparer said this kind of documentation can help avoid automated IRS notices that might question the discrepancy. @1c19d8ea7907 Do you know if there's a specific way to document the basis adjustment on Form 8949, or is a simple explanation usually sufficient?
Just to add to all the great information here - I went through a very similar situation with my daughter last year. One thing I learned that might be helpful: make sure to keep detailed records of the exact dates involved, especially if the stock price was volatile around the gift transfer date. Even though you mentioned the price didn't change between gift and sale, the IRS will want to see documentation of the fair market value on the actual gift date for their records. I used the closing price on the date of transfer and kept a screenshot of the stock quote from that day. Also, since your son immediately put the proceeds into CDs, that's actually a smart move tax-wise. The capital gains tax will be due on his return for this year, but the CD interest going forward will be taxed as ordinary income in future years when the CDs mature. Just something to keep in mind for his future tax planning. The good news is that since you stayed under the annual gift tax exclusion, this is a pretty straightforward transaction from a documentation standpoint. Your son just needs your original purchase price and date, plus proof of the gift transfer.
This is really solid advice about keeping detailed records of the gift date! I'm curious though - what happens if there's a weekend or holiday involved? Like if the gift transfer technically happened on a Saturday but the stock market was closed, do you use Friday's closing price or Monday's opening price to establish the fair market value? I'm dealing with a similar situation where my parents transferred some mutual fund shares to me over a holiday weekend, and I want to make sure I'm documenting the correct valuation date for tax purposes.
This has been an incredibly helpful thread to read through! As someone who's relatively new to the LLC world, I really appreciate how everyone has broken down the different ways to verify your tax election status. The consensus seems crystal clear: if you've been filing Schedule C with your personal tax return, that's definitive proof your LLC is operating as a disregarded entity (the default status). Form 8832 is specifically for making an active election to CHANGE from this default to corporate treatment - it's not something that happens automatically or by accident. What really stands out to me is how many different verification methods have been shared: - Checking your tax return filing history (Schedule C vs. corporate returns) - Contacting LegalZoom or whoever set up your LLC - Reviewing any IRS correspondence you've received - Looking at your business bank account setup documentation - Checking your accounting software tax settings - Reviewing quarterly estimated payment methods The fact that ALL of these different approaches point to the same conclusion for your situation gives me confidence that the advice here is spot-on. You're definitely Category 2, and your client should issue the 1099 using your personal name and SSN. I also appreciate everyone emphasizing that the disregarded entity status is actually the SIMPLER path for most single-member LLC owners. It's reassuring to know that if you haven't actively elected corporate treatment, you're not missing out on anything - you're just taking the straightforward default route that keeps your tax filing simple with Schedule C. Thanks to everyone for sharing their experiences and creating such a comprehensive resource for other LLC owners facing this same confusion!
This thread has been absolutely fantastic! As someone who's just getting started with my own single-member LLC, I was actually wondering about this exact same thing. Reading through everyone's explanations has been like getting a masterclass in LLC tax elections. What really helps me understand it is how everyone has emphasized that Form 8832 is for CHANGING from the default, not establishing the default. The default disregarded entity treatment happens automatically - you don't file anything to get it, you only file something if you want to change it to corporate treatment. The Schedule C filing history really does seem to be the most reliable indicator. If you were supposed to be filing corporate returns but were filing Schedule C instead, the IRS would have definitely caught that mismatch by now, especially after 8 months of operation. I'm bookmarking this thread for future reference! The verification methods everyone shared will be so helpful if I ever find myself in a similar situation. It's amazing how many different ways there are to confirm your tax election status when you know what to look for. Thanks to everyone for creating such a comprehensive resource - this is exactly the kind of practical guidance that makes navigating LLC tax questions so much less intimidating for newcomers like me!
As a newcomer to this community and someone who's been helping small business owners with similar tax questions, I want to echo what everyone has said - you're definitely Category 2! The evidence is overwhelming: filing Schedule C with your personal return is the clearest possible indicator that your LLC is operating as a disregarded entity (the default status). If you had filed Form 8832 to elect corporate treatment, you would have been required to file separate corporate tax returns (Form 1120 or 1120S), not Schedule C. I particularly appreciate how this thread has shown multiple verification approaches all pointing to the same conclusion. The fact that you don't recall receiving an IRS acceptance letter for Form 8832 is also significant - the IRS always sends confirmation when tax elections are processed, and it's not something you'd easily forget since it represents a major change in how your business is taxed. For your client response, you can confidently say Category 2 and make sure they know to issue the 1099-NEC using your full legal name and SSN (not your LLC name and EIN). This is crucial for proper tax matching when you file your Schedule C. While calling LegalZoom for final confirmation is smart for peace of mind, you already have all the evidence you need. The default disregarded entity treatment is actually simpler for most single-member LLC owners - no separate corporate returns, just straightforward Schedule C reporting like you've been successfully doing. You're in great shape!
Has anyone had success getting their employer to change their mind about this kind of policy? My company just announced the same thing for this year's W-2s and several of us want to push back.
I work in tax preparation and see this situation a lot. Your employer is within their rights to refuse in-person pickup - they only need to provide W-2s by January 31st through any reasonable method. However, here's a practical tip that might help: call your HR department and explain that you have time-sensitive financial needs (like your March expenses). Sometimes being specific about why you need it faster can make them more accommodating. Some companies will at least tell you the exact mail date so you know when to expect it. Also, if your company uses a payroll service like ADP, Paychex, or others, you might be able to access your W-2 online even if your employer hasn't set up a portal. Try creating an account directly with whatever service processes your paychecks - many employees don't realize this is an option. Worst case scenario, most mail within the same city/region takes 1-3 business days, so if they mail by January 31st, you'd likely have it by February 3rd at the latest. Not ideal, but not as bad as the 1-2 weeks you're worried about.
Great advice about contacting the payroll service directly! I had no idea that was even possible. My company uses ADP - do you know if there's a specific way to set up an account or do I just go to their main website? Also, when you mention explaining time-sensitive financial needs to HR, do you think it's worth mentioning specific deadlines like needing to file by a certain date for a mortgage application or something similar?
The answers here are helpful but don't forget there's a difference between having to file and actually owing tax. A lot of states require filing even if you don't end up owing anything. Or they might have minimum tax amounts even with losses.
This is such a timely discussion - I'm dealing with a similar multi-state nexus nightmare right now. One thing I'd add is to make sure you're also considering franchise tax obligations, not just corporate income tax. Some states like Delaware and Texas have franchise taxes that can apply even when you don't have income tax nexus. Also, for anyone using remote workers, keep detailed records of where they're actually performing work versus where they're "based." I learned the hard way that some states care more about where the work is physically performed than where the employee officially resides. Our tax advisor said this documentation could be crucial if we ever get audited on our nexus determinations. The economic nexus thresholds are changing so frequently that whatever resource you use, make sure it's updated at least quarterly. I've seen states lower their thresholds mid-year without much fanfare.
Great point about franchise taxes! I'm just starting to research this whole area and hadn't even considered that there might be separate franchise tax obligations on top of income tax requirements. The documentation tip about tracking where remote work is actually performed is really valuable - I can see how that would be easy to overlook until it's too late. Do you have any specific recommendations for how to structure that documentation? Like should we be having employees log their work locations daily, or is something less detailed sufficient? Also, when you mention quarterly updates to economic nexus thresholds - are there any particular states that seem to change their rules more frequently than others? I want to make sure we're monitoring the right jurisdictions closely.
Mateo Rodriguez
What happens if both people try to claim the mortgage interest? My gf and I split the mortgage payments (she's on the loan, I'm not), and her 1098 obviously shows the full interest amount. If I try to claim my portion as an "equitable owner" and she claims her portion, will that trigger problems?
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GalaxyGuardian
ā¢Yes, that would definitely raise flags with the IRS! The total amount claimed between both of you can't exceed what's on the 1098 form. You need to coordinate your tax filings. Each of you would need to file Form 8396 to show how the deduction is being split, and reference each other's tax IDs to make it clear you're not double-dipping.
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Connor Murphy
I've been following this thread closely since I'm in a very similar situation. One thing I want to add that hasn't been mentioned much is the importance of timing when creating your written agreement. While you don't need to backdate anything, I'd strongly recommend creating that ownership agreement ASAP before you file your taxes. The IRS looks favorably on contemporaneous documentation - meaning paperwork that exists at the time the situation is happening, not created after the fact when you're trying to justify a tax position. Also, make sure your agreement is specific about percentages. Don't just say "in exchange for mortgage payments, I have an ownership interest." Be clear: "In exchange for paying 100% of the mortgage payments, I am entitled to X% ownership interest in the property's equity." This specificity will help a lot if you ever get questioned. One last tip - consider having your girlfriend explicitly state on her tax return that she's NOT claiming the mortgage interest deduction because someone else (you) is claiming it as an equitable owner. This coordination between your returns shows the IRS you're not trying to hide anything.
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Ravi Sharma
ā¢This is excellent advice about the timing and specificity of the agreement! I'm new to this community but dealing with the exact same situation. One quick question - when you mention having your girlfriend state on her return that she's NOT claiming the deduction, where exactly would she put that? Is there a specific form or just a written statement attached to her return? I want to make sure we coordinate this properly from the start to avoid any issues down the road.
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