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For the OP - one possibility that no one has mentioned is that the IRS might be identifying income from accounts your dad had that you weren't aware of. My grandmother passed away a few years ago and we discovered she had a small brokerage account that none of us knew about. The 30-day timeline is important, but not as scary as it sounds. You can request an extension to respond (usually 30 more days) by calling the number on the notice. That should give you time to get the wage and income transcript mentioned earlier and figure out what's actually going on.
Thank you, that's actually really helpful. It never occurred to me that Dad might have had accounts we didn't know about. He wasn't exactly organized with his paperwork in his final years. I'm going to request that transcript right away. Has anyone had experience with requesting an extension? Is it a complicated process or pretty straightforward?
Requesting an extension is very straightforward. When you call the IRS (using the number on your notice), simply tell them you need additional time to gather documentation to respond to the notice. They'll typically grant a 30-day extension verbally right then and there. Be sure to make note of the date of your call, the name of the representative you spoke with, and the new deadline date they provide. This information can be important if there's ever any question about whether you requested the extension.
When my dad passed away, we had a similar issue with the IRS claiming unreported income. In our case, it was because a retirement account distribution had been reported under the estate's EIN (Employer Identification Number) rather than my dad's SSN. The financial institution had filed the 1099-R incorrectly. Check if any financial institutions might have filed information returns using an EIN instead of your dad's social security number. This creates a mismatch in the IRS system and can trigger these kinds of notices.
Have you considered bankruptcy? I know it sounds extreme, but certain tax debts can actually be discharged in bankruptcy if they're old enough (generally 3+ years). Not saying it's the right choice, but might be worth looking into if the penalty abatements don't work out.
I hadn't considered bankruptcy yet. That feels like a last resort to me, especially since I'm trying to restart my business. Would the 2021 crypto tax debt even qualify since it's more recent? And wouldn't bankruptcy make it impossible to get business loans or credit in the future?
You're right to be cautious about bankruptcy. The 2021 crypto debt wouldn't qualify yet - tax debts must generally be from returns due at least 3 years before filing bankruptcy. So that major portion of your debt wouldn't be dischargeable right now. Bankruptcy does seriously impact your credit and ability to get business financing - typically stays on your credit report for 7-10 years. Since you're restarting your business, this could definitely create significant obstacles. Many business loans, commercial leases, and vendor credit arrangements check bankruptcy history specifically. I'd exhaust all options with penalty abatement and payment plans first before considering this route.
Your friend offering the loan to pay the principal is amazingly generous. Just make sure you get the loan terms in writing to protect both of you. Also, before accepting, double-check with your LITC advisor about how partial payments might affect your case. Sometimes making partial payments can restart certain statute of limitations clocks with the IRS.
Have you considered using a tax preparation chain like H&R Block or Jackson Hewitt? They have business tax specialists and usually charge way less than private accountants. I think I paid around $650 last year for my Schedule C business + personal return at H&R Block. Quality can vary depending on which preparer you get, but I've had good experiences if you ask for their more experienced staff.
Be really careful with the big chains! I used H&R Block for my LLC last year and the preparer missed several deductions that I later realized I was eligible for. When I went back they wanted to charge me $250 just to file an amendment. Ended up being a huge hassle.
That's a fair point about inconsistent quality. I've had good experiences by specifically requesting their senior tax pros who have experience with small businesses, but you definitely need to be proactive about it. One approach that works well is to call ahead and ask about their staff's experience with your specific business type before booking. The franchise locations (rather than corporate-owned) often have more experienced preparers who've been working with the local business community for years. But you're right that it can be hit or miss if you don't do your homework first.
Instead of finding someone "inexpensive," I'd focus on finding someone who saves you more in taxes than what they charge. My CPA charges $1,250 for my returns but literally found $7,400 in additional deductions and credits my previous "budget" accountant ($600) had missed. Sometimes you get what you pay for with tax pros.
That's a really good point I hadn't considered. Did you find your CPA through a referral or just searching online? And did they identify themselves as specializing in tax savings specifically?
I found mine through a business networking group in my area, which I highly recommend over random online searches. The best tax preparers often don't need to advertise much because they get most clients through referrals. When interviewing potential accountants, ask specifically about their approach to finding deductions and minimizing tax liability. A good one will immediately start asking you detailed questions about your business structure, expenses, and financial situation rather than just quoting you a price. Mine actually did a free review of my previous year's return during our consultation and pointed out several missed opportunities before I even hired him.
Another option - have you tried Drake Tax software? I switched to it last year after having the same Form 8949 issues with TaxAct. Drake handles much larger PDFs and doesn't seem to have the same attachment limitations. It's geared toward professionals but they have a personal version that's reasonably priced.
I hadn't considered Drake! Does it handle direct import from TradeLog or would I still need to use the PDF export method? I'm open to trying new software if it saves me from printing everything.
Drake doesn't have direct integration with TradeLog that I'm aware of, so you'd still need to use the PDF export method. The advantage is just that Drake can handle much larger PDFs without breaking them up. If you want direct integration, you might look at TaxACT Professional (different from the consumer version) which has more import options for investment data. It's more expensive but might be worth it for the convenience if you have hundreds of transactions every year.
Has anybody tried compressing their PDFs using Adobe Acrobat Pro? I had about 200 pages of Form 8949 transactions last year and managed to get my file down from 12mb to just under 3mb using their "Reduce File Size" feature with the "Minimum Size" setting. Might be worth trying if you have access to Adobe's paid software.
This is a good suggestion. Another trick is to export as grayscale and lower the resolution. Most tax forms don't need color or high resolution. I got a 15mb file down to 2.8mb doing this.
Noah huntAce420
Don't forget about capital losses too! I lost about $8k on some bad tech plays last year, but was able to use those losses to offset gains in other stocks. You can deduct up to $3k in net losses against your ordinary income each year, and carry forward remaining losses to future years. Also, have you considered Qualified Opportunity Zone investments? They allow you to defer capital gains taxes until 2026 if you invest your gains into designated economically distressed communities. Not for everyone, but worth looking into if you're serious about real estate anyway.
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Oliver Brown
ā¢Thanks for mentioning Opportunity Zones. I've heard of them but don't really understand how they work. Do I have to invest the exact amount of my gains, or can I do partial? And is there a time limit after selling my stocks to invest in an OZ?
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Noah huntAce420
ā¢You need to invest your capital gains (not necessarily the entire proceeds from your sale) into a Qualified Opportunity Fund within 180 days of realizing the gain. You can definitely do partial investments - any portion of your gains that you invest will get the tax deferral. The main benefits are: 1) You defer paying taxes on your original stock gains until 2026, 2) If you hold the OZ investment for 5+ years, you get a 10% reduction on those original deferred taxes, and 3) If you hold the OZ investment for 10+ years, any new gains from the OZ investment itself are completely tax-free. It's complex but can be very advantageous if real estate investing aligns with your goals.
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Ana Rusula
Has anyone actually used a Roth IRA for trading stocks? I heard if you trade within a Roth IRA, all the gains are tax-free when you withdraw in retirement. Seems like that would be the easiest way to avoid taxes completely on stock gains if you don't need the money right now.
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Fidel Carson
ā¢Yes! I trade in my Roth and it's awesome for tax-free growth. But there are limits - you can only contribute $7,000/year for 2025 if you're under 50, and there are income phaseouts that start around $146,000 for single filers. Also, you can't touch the earnings without penalties until 59½ in most cases.
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Oliver Brown
ā¢I actually do have a Roth IRA but haven't been very active with it. I'm contributing the max already, but never thought about doing my more active trading in there instead of my regular brokerage account. Might be a good strategy for next year to avoid this tax situation altogether.
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