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Sophia Nguyen

Qualifying for QBI deduction on rental property with extensive repairs - no receipts

Just wrapping up my second year as a rental property owner and manager, and I've hit a bit of a snag with my QBI documentation. Started the year with some minor repair issues, but then disaster struck in October when my tenants moved out owing a month's rent and left the place in absolute shambles. It took me almost 2 months, roughly $12,000, and countless hours of my own labor to get the property back into rentable condition. Problem is, I didn't keep proper receipts for a lot of the work - just have my credit card statements as proof of purchases. I'm pretty confident I've put in well over 250 hours of work on the property this year between routine management and this massive restoration project. Would a detailed spreadsheet tracking all the repairs, costs, and labor hours be sufficient documentation to qualify for the QBI deduction if I get audited? I've broken down everything from painting walls to replacing damaged fixtures to deep cleaning, but I'm worried that without physical receipts, I might be out of luck. Anyone dealt with this situation before?

Yes, a detailed spreadsheet can work for tracking your 250+ hours for QBI purposes, but you need to be meticulous about it. The IRS wants to see contemporaneous records - meaning you should be logging activities as you do them, not creating a spreadsheet months later from memory. For your expenses without receipts, credit card statements actually provide a good paper trail. Match them with your spreadsheet entries detailing what each purchase was for. Take photos of the property showing the repairs/improvements as additional documentation. If you used any contractors, get statements from them even retroactively. For your own labor hours, keep detailed notes of what you did each day - "3 hours replacing bathroom fixtures," "4 hours painting living room," etc. Include dates and be realistic with time estimates. If audited, you want to show you weren't just making up numbers.

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Thanks for the info. Would bank statements work the same way as credit card statements? Most of my purchases were from my checking account. Also, do I need to break down my own labor by a specific hourly rate, or just track the hours?

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Bank statements work similarly to credit card statements - they establish that you made the purchases, which is a good start. Just make sure you have notes on what each transaction was for specifically. For your own labor, you don't need to assign an hourly rate for QBI qualification purposes. The 250-hour test is about time spent, not the value of that time. You're just tracking hours to demonstrate "material participation" in the real estate business. The expenses you can deduct are the actual costs of materials and any paid labor, not the value of your own time.

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Does it actually verify that your activities meet the IRS requirements for QBI or just organize the expenses? I'm in a similar situation and wondering if this would actually help with the 250-hour documentation specifically.

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I'm skeptical about these AI tax tools. How does it actually know what work you did if you didn't record it? Seems like it would just be guessing based on where you spent money.

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It doesn't just organize expenses - it actually helps you document activities that qualify toward the 250-hour test. You can input descriptions of work performed, and it suggests how to properly categorize and document them according to IRS guidelines for real estate professionals. The AI doesn't guess what work you did - you're right that would be impossible. Instead, it helps you match your financial records with your activities to create proper documentation. For example, when it sees a purchase at a hardware store, it prompts you to document what repair that was for and how many hours you spent on it. Then it creates an IRS-friendly log with all the proper categorizations. Basically turns your messy records into an organized system that can withstand scrutiny.

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My tax preparer told me that rental income doesn't qualify for QBI unless you're considered a real estate professional for tax purposes. The 250 hours test is just one part of qualifying. You also need to prove real estate activities are more than 50% of your personal service hours in trades/businesses during the year.

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That doesn't sound right. I've been reading that rental property can qualify for QBI as long as I meet the 250 hour test, even if I have another job. Could someone clarify this? Now I'm confused about whether I'm eligible at all.

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There's some confusion here. There are actually two separate tests: one for being a "real estate professional" (which affects whether rental losses can offset other income) and one for the "safe harbor" for rental income to qualify for QBI. For QBI purposes, the IRS created a safe harbor where if you can document 250+ hours of "rental services" per year on a property (or group of properties), that rental activity can qualify as a "trade or business" eligible for QBI. This is true even if you don't meet the stricter real estate professional test. The 250 hours can include management, maintenance, repairs, collecting rent, etc. So yes, you can potentially claim QBI on rental income even with another job, as long as you meet the 250 hour requirement for your rental activities specifically.

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One tip - take before and after photos if you haven't already! I got audited last year for QBI on my rental and having dated photos of all the renovation work saved me. Shows proof the work actually happened even without all receipts.

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That's a great idea. I actually do have some photos of the damage and after the repairs. Did you organize them in any specific way for your audit? Did they ask for anything else besides the photos?

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I created a simple document with before/after photos side by side, each labeled with the date and a brief description of the work performed. Under each photo set, I noted how many hours I spent on that specific repair and any materials purchased. They also asked for my activity log (which matched the photo document), bank statements showing material purchases, and communications with tenants about the repairs/issues. Having text messages where tenants reported problems and my responses about fixing them was surprisingly helpful as supporting evidence. The auditor seemed most impressed with the thoroughness and consistency across all the documentation rather than any single piece.

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