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Just want to add - I'm a delivery driver too and I track all my car expenses with the Stride app. Even if you can't deduct the insurance directly, you could just take the standard mileage deduction instead (65.5 cents per mile for 2023). That covers gas, insurance, depreciation, everything. Way easier than tracking actual expenses and you don't need to worry about whose name is on what.
Does the standard mileage rate usually work out better than tracking actual expenses? My car is pretty old and fuel efficient but I'm driving a TON for deliveries.
In my experience, standard mileage usually works out better for newer cars or fuel-efficient vehicles. I drive about 25,000 miles a year for deliveries in a 2018 Corolla, and the standard deduction gives me around $16,000+ in deductions which is way more than I'd get itemizing. For older vehicles that might need more repairs or gas guzzlers, tracking actual expenses could potentially be better. The key is to try calculating both ways for a month and see which gives you the bigger deduction. Just remember if you choose actual expenses in the first year, you're generally stuck with that method for the life of that vehicle.
Wait, I'm confused on one thing - are you saying you personally drive the car, but the insurance is in your brother's name? Or is it his car too? Because if it's your car but just his insurance policy, that seems like a major insurance problem regardless of taxes. Insurance follows the car AND driver, and if you're the primary driver but not listed, they might deny claims anyway.
For future reference, there's an option on the W4 form specifically for this situation. In Step 2, you can check box c for "Multiple jobs or spouse works" which helps adjust your withholding. For even more accuracy, you can use the multiple jobs worksheet. I'd also recommend checking your withholding at least once midyear using the IRS Withholding Calculator: https://www.irs.gov/individuals/tax-withholding-estimator That way you can catch these issues before tax time and adjust as needed!
Thank you! I've already updated both my W4 forms for this year, but I'll definitely use that calculator to double-check everything. Is it normal to owe this much though? I'm still shocked at how big the difference was.
Yes, unfortunately the amount you owe is pretty typical for this situation. When you add a second job with similar income, you're essentially doubling your income but your withholding isn't doubling the tax paid because each employer is calculating withholding based on their portion only. For example, if you make $80K at one job, you might be withheld at an effective rate of about 12-15%. But when your total income is $160K, portions of that income are taxed at 22% or 24% brackets. That difference between what was withheld (at lower rates) and what you actually owe (at higher rates) is where that $5K+ bill comes from.
I'm surprised nobody mentioned this, but you should also check if you qualify for any tax credits or deductions that might offset some of what you owe. Did you have any education expenses during the year? Student loan interest? Making retirement contributions? Health insurance through the marketplace?
This is good advice. Also, make sure you're taking the standard deduction at a minimum ($12,950 for single filers for 2022). And if you made any charitable contributions or had work-related expenses that weren't reimbursed, those might help too.
Thanks for bringing this up! I do have some student loan interest from when payments were still required, and I contributed to my 401k at both jobs. I'll definitely look into those deductions. Do you think it could significantly reduce what I owe?
As someone who purchased an EV last year, make sure you also check that the vehicle itself qualifies! There are price caps on the vehicles too - used EVs must be under $25,000 to qualify for the credit. And the dealer has to be a registered dealer, not just any private sale. Also, the credit is nonrefundable, meaning you need to have at least $4,000 in tax liability to get the full benefit. With your income level that shouldn't be an issue, but something to be aware of.
Thanks for mentioning the other requirements! I've been so focused on the income limits I forgot about vehicle price caps. Do you know if the $25,000 limit is before or after any dealer add-ons and fees?
The $25,000 limit is based on the sales price of the vehicle itself, before taxes and fees. However, dealer add-ons that are included in the purchase price (like extended warranties sold by the dealer) would count toward that limit. Be careful about dealers who might try to structure the deal in ways that artificially lower the vehicle price while adding "mandatory" add-ons to get around the price cap. The IRS looks at the actual purchase price of the vehicle as reported on your sales documentation.
Important point nobody's mentioned yet - if you buy the EV for your rideshare work, it will be a business vehicle (at least partially). This affects how you claim both the EV credit AND your future business deductions. If you use the EV 100% for business, you can take the full credit but then you can't also claim the standard mileage rate for those miles in future years. You'd need to use actual expenses method instead. If you use it partially for personal use (like 70% business/30% personal), the situation gets more complex.
this isnt correct, i got the ev credit last year and still claim mileage. my tax guy said its fine cause the credit is for buying the car, deductions are for using it. totally different things.
Have you considered doing a cashless exercise for the NSOs? Some companies allow this where they'll essentially loan you the exercise cost and tax withholding then immediately sell enough shares to cover those costs. Means you don't need cash upfront and can still keep most of the shares. For the ISOs, if you're sure you're under the AMT threshold, I'd definitely exercise before they convert. Once they become NSOs, you lose the potential for long-term capital gains treatment on the spread.
Careful with the cashless exercise suggestion - that only works if the company is publicly traded or has some kind of secondary market for the shares. Sounds like OP's company is still private with no immediate IPO plans.
Good point about the cashless exercise - I was assuming there might be a secondary market since it's a Series D company, but you're right that it's not guaranteed. Another option to consider is a net exercise if the company allows it. With a net exercise, you surrender some of your options to cover the exercise cost, so you get fewer shares but don't have to put up any cash. Won't help with the tax withholding for NSOs though.
Anyone recommend a good tax professional who specializes in equity compensation? My accountant seems completely lost when it comes to ISO/NSO rules and AMT implications.
I've had good luck with The Startup CPA (thinkthis.com). Not cheap but they actually understand equity compensation and saved me a ton on AMT planning. Worth the fee considering how much is at stake with these decisions.
Everett Tutum
Have you checked out the IRS Direct File program? It's new this year and completely free. I think it's limited to certain states for now, but worth checking if yours is included. It handles basic investment income including Schedule B without charging.
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Misterclamation Skyblue
ā¢I just looked it up and unfortunately my state isn't included in the Direct File pilot program yet. Seems like it could be a good option in the future though! I'll probably go with one of the free alternatives mentioned here instead of paying for TurboTax.
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Sunny Wang
I've been using FreeTaxUSA for years and it handles Schedule B no problem. Federal is completely free regardless of which forms you need. They only charge like $15 for state filing. Way cheaper than TurboTax or H&R Block's "upgrades.
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Hugh Intensity
ā¢Is FreeTaxUSA actually reliable? I'm always worried about using less well-known tax software. Do they have good support if you have questions?
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