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Does anyone know if scholarships count as "income earned in a state"? I get a scholarship from my home state (Ohio) but attend school in Pennsylvania. Not sure how to report this on state returns.
Great question! Scholarships are treated differently than earned income. If your scholarship is tax-free (used for qualified education expenses like tuition and required books), it's not reported as income on any state return. If part of your scholarship is taxable (used for room and board, for example), it's generally considered income in your state of residency, not the state that provided the scholarship. So in your case, if you're a Pennsylvania resident for tax purposes (which most full-time students are for their school state), any taxable portion of your scholarship would be reported on your PA return, even though the scholarship came from Ohio.
Lol I'm in the same boat but more complicated - I'm from California, go to school in Massachusetts, did a summer internship in New York, AND did some online freelance work while traveling in Europe for 3 weeks. My tax situation is a complete disaster this year š
Omg that sounds like a nightmare! Have you figured out how to handle it? I'm stressed just about my two states!
It's been... a process lol. I ended up paying for a consultation with an accountant who specializes in multi-state issues. Definitely worth the $150 for the peace of mind. He said I need to file: - Resident return for Massachusetts (my tax home as a student) - Non-resident returns for California and New York - And the freelance income gets reported on all three (but with credits to avoid triple taxation) The European travel didn't matter tax-wise since I wasn't there long enough to trigger any foreign filing requirements. My advice: if you have more than 2 states, just pay a professional. The stress reduction is worth it!
I was in this exact situation last year! One thing to watch out for - make sure you check if there's a tax treaty between the US and your spouse's home country. This could significantly reduce the taxable portion of the scholarship/fellowship income on the 1042-S. You can find the list of tax treaties in IRS Publication 901. For example, if your spouse is from China, the first $5,000 of their scholarship might be exempt from US tax. The withholding shown on the 1042-S might not account for this treaty benefit if the correct paperwork wasn't filed with the university.
Thanks for mentioning this! He's from Argentina, so I'll definitely check Publication 901. Do you know if I can still claim a treaty benefit even though taxes were already withheld on the 1042-S? And would I need to file any additional forms to claim this?
Yes, you can absolutely still claim treaty benefits even if taxes were already withheld! This happens frequently when students don't complete Form W-8BEN with their university at the beginning of their studies. The university withholds at the standard rate, but you can claim the treaty benefits when you file your return. For Argentina, check Article 22 of the US-Argentina tax treaty. You'll likely need to file Form 8833 (Treaty-Based Return Position Disclosure) along with your tax return to claim the benefit. TurboTax should prompt you for this form when you indicate you're claiming a treaty benefit.
I just want to point out that the tax preparers at places like Jackson Hewitt and H&R Block often don't have much experience with international tax situations. They're great for standard returns but specialized situations like 1042-S forms are usually outside their wheelhouse. If taxr.ai or calling the IRS doesn't fully resolve your questions, you might want to look for a CPA who specializes in international taxation or specifically works with university international students. Many universities have relationships with local tax professionals who handle these situations regularly.
Completely agree! I used to work at one of those tax prep chains, and we received almost no training on international forms. When I got a client with a 1042-S, I had to google it just like everyone else. CPA firms that advertise international tax services are definitely worth the extra money in these situations.
Exactly. Those national chains typically provide their preparers with only about 60-80 hours of training, which simply isn't enough to cover complex international tax situations. Most of that training focuses on common scenarios like W-2 income, child tax credits, and standard deductions. International taxation requires understanding tax treaties, foreign tax credits, and special forms like 8833 and 8843 that most preparers rarely encounter. A specialized CPA might charge more upfront but can prevent expensive mistakes or missed opportunities for tax savings.
One thing nobody's mentioned yet - get those returns filed ASAP because if the IRS files a Substitute for Return (SFR) for you, they'll only use standard deductions and won't include any credits you might be eligible for. They basically give you the worst possible tax situation. I learned this the hard way when they did an SFR for my 2019 taxes. They said I owed $11,400 when I actually only owed about $4,200 when I finally filed properly with all my legitimate deductions and credits.
Thanks for bringing this up - I had no idea they could just file a return for me! Do you know how long it typically takes before they do that? I'm trying to get all my paperwork together and I'm hoping I haven't hit that point yet.
It varies, but they typically start the SFR process 1-3 years after the return was due. Since your 2021 return would have been due in April 2022, they might be preparing an SFR soon if they haven't already. You can find out by requesting an account transcript from the IRS website. If you see a code 150 with "Substitute for Return" next to it, that means they've already filed one for you. But even if they have, you can still file your own return which will replace their SFR and potentially reduce what you owe significantly.
Has anyone used one of those tax relief companies that advertise on the radio? They claim they can settle with the IRS for "pennies on the dollar"... wondering if that's legitimate for situations like this.
Be very careful with those tax relief companies. What they're referring to is an Offer in Compromise (OIC), which is legitimate but rarely approved. In 2020, only about 30% of OICs were accepted. These companies often charge thousands of dollars upfront with no guarantee of results. They're essentially offering what you can do yourself by filling out Form 656. To qualify for an OIC, you generally need to prove you can't pay through an installment agreement AND the full amount would cause financial hardship. For someone with steady salary income like the original poster, an OIC is unlikely to be approved unless there are significant other financial hardships.
One thing nobody's mentioned yet - check if you selected "Student" on your W-4 form. This is a common mistake that can cause underwithholding. Being a student doesn't automatically change your tax withholding - in fact, there's no checkbox for "student" on the W-4 at all! Also, at your income level (~$115k), you're in a higher tax bracket than you might realize. The education credits like American Opportunity Credit and Lifetime Learning Credit start phasing out at incomes over $80k for single filers. Your education expenses might not be giving you as much tax benefit as you expect. I'd recommend running a "paycheck checkup" using the IRS withholding calculator and then submitting a fresh W-4 to your payroll department. Make sure to check Box 2 if you have multiple jobs, and consider adding an additional dollar amount to withhold on Line 4(c).
This is so helpful! I had no idea the education credits phase out at higher incomes. Is there any way to still benefit from education expenses if you're above the income limits? I'm in a similar situation making around $105k and taking night classes.
There are still some options available even above the phase-out limits. While the American Opportunity Credit and Lifetime Learning Credit may not be available at your income level, you might qualify for the Tuition and Fees Deduction, which has higher income limits. Another option to consider is whether your education might qualify as a work-related education expense, which could potentially be deductible as an employee business expense in some situations. The rules are strict though - the education must be required by your employer or by law to maintain your current position, or it must maintain or improve skills needed in your current job.
have you checked if ur employer is taking out state taxes correctly too? i had a similar issue and turned out my employer was withholding for the wrong state (i live near a state border and work remotely). ended up owing federal AND state taxes, it was a mess š© when i finally figured it out i had to fill out a new w4 AND a state withholding form. my paycheck went down by like $200 but at least i wont owe a huge amount next year lol
I didn't even think about that! I live in Illinois but my company is based in Wisconsin. I'll definitely check my state withholding too. How bad was the hit when you fixed both state and federal withholding? I'm worried about my take-home pay dropping too much all at once.
Mia Roberts
Just to add some context to what others have said - I'm a tax preparer who works with lots of international clients. The J1 visa situation is particularly tricky because there are different tax rules depending on what TYPE of J1 you have (student, teacher, researcher, au pair, etc). The substantial presence test that someone mentioned earlier doesn't apply the same way to all J1 holders. If you're on a J1 as a student, you're considered an "exempt individual" for the first 5 calendar years you're in the US, meaning you're generally treated as a nonresident alien regardless of how many days you're present. If you're on a J1 as a teacher, researcher, or trainee, you're an "exempt individual" for 2 of the past 6 calendar years. The Form 8833 election to be treated as a resident is almost always beneficial when married to a US citizen, as the tax rates for jointly filing are generally more favorable than filing as married filing separately or as a nonresident.
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Olivia Van-Cleve
ā¢Thanks for the additional information! I'm actually on a J1 as a researcher, so I guess the 2-year exempt individual rule would apply to me. Does that mean I'm automatically considered a nonresident alien for tax purposes regardless of how long I've been here?
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Mia Roberts
ā¢As a J1 researcher, you're considered an "exempt individual" for 2 out of the last 6 calendar years. This means that during those "exempt" years, your days of presence in the US don't count toward the substantial presence test. So if this is your first calendar year in the US, you would generally be considered a nonresident alien for tax purposes regardless of how many days you've been physically present. However, being married to a US citizen gives you a special option: you can elect to be treated as a US resident for tax purposes by filing a statement with your tax return (using the Form 8833 that others have mentioned). This is almost always financially beneficial because it allows you to file jointly with your spouse and access more favorable tax rates and certain credits that aren't available to nonresidents.
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The Boss
Has anyone used TurboTax or H&R Block for this specific situation (J1 visa, married to US citizen)? I'm trying to figure out if the mainstream tax software can handle this correctly or if I need a specialist.
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Evan Kalinowski
ā¢I tried using TurboTax last year in this exact situation and it was a disaster. The software kept getting confused with the residency election forms. It couldn't handle the treaty benefits properly either. I ended up having to get help from a CPA who specializes in international taxation and he had to correct a bunch of mistakes the software made.
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The Boss
ā¢Ugh, that's what I was afraid of. I've always done my own taxes with TurboTax but this J1/marriage situation seems way more complicated. Did the CPA cost a fortune? I'm on a pretty tight budget with my research stipend.
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