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Just wanted to share my experience as someone who works at a casino and sees this situation frequently. The reality is that many foreign tourists don't realize they need to file US tax returns for gambling winnings, and casinos aren't always great at explaining the tax implications clearly. What I've observed is that the IRS enforcement seems to vary quite a bit. For tourists from countries with tax treaties (like Canada, UK, most of Europe), there's often more scrutiny because the systems are set up to track this. But for tourists from countries without strong tax information sharing agreements, enforcement can be hit-or-miss. One thing that's often overlooked is that some casinos now require foreign visitors to provide passport information even for smaller wins, creating more of a paper trail than people realize. If your friend is concerned, I'd honestly recommend being proactive and filing properly rather than hoping it goes unnoticed. The peace of mind is usually worth it, and they might even get some money back if too much was withheld.
This is really insightful from someone who actually works in the industry! I had no idea that casinos were starting to collect passport information for smaller wins too. That definitely changes the game in terms of creating paper trails. Your point about being proactive makes a lot of sense - especially since it sounds like the enforcement can be unpredictable. Do you happen to know if there's a typical timeframe where tourists should file by, or is it just the standard tax year deadline? And when you mention they might get money back if too much was withheld, is that common for tourists to actually receive refunds?
Great questions! For filing deadlines, non-resident aliens typically need to file Form 1040NR by April 15th of the year following when they earned the income, just like US residents. However, they can request an automatic 6-month extension if needed. Regarding refunds, it's actually quite common for tourists to get money back! The standard 30% withholding is often more than what they actually owe, especially if their home country has a tax treaty with the US. For example, tourists from Canada might only owe 15% under the treaty, so they'd get back the difference. Even without treaties, many tourists end up in lower tax brackets than the 30% withholding rate assumes. The key is that you have to file to get any refund - the IRS won't automatically send overpaid taxes back. I've seen tourists recover anywhere from a few hundred to several thousand dollars by filing properly, so it's definitely worth the paperwork hassle in most cases.
This is such a helpful thread! As someone who's dealt with international tax issues before, I'd add that timing really matters here. Your friend should definitely keep all documentation from the casinos - receipts, forms, anything they gave him. One thing I learned the hard way is that even if enforcement seems inconsistent, having a clean paper trail makes everything so much easier if questions come up later. The IRS has gotten much better at international information sharing in recent years, so what might have slipped through the cracks 5-10 years ago is more likely to be caught now. Also, if your friend decides to be proactive about filing, they should know that getting an ITIN can take several weeks, so it's better to start that process sooner rather than later. The whole situation is definitely manageable with the right approach!
This is excellent advice about keeping documentation! I'm just starting to learn about all these tax requirements and had no idea that international information sharing had gotten so much more sophisticated recently. That's definitely something to keep in mind for the future. Quick question - when you mention getting an ITIN taking several weeks, is that something that can be done from outside the US? Like if someone has already returned to their home country, can they still apply for an ITIN to file their US tax return properly?
Yes, you can absolutely apply for an ITIN from outside the US! The process actually works the same whether you're in the US or abroad. You'll need to submit Form W-7 along with your tax return (1040NR in this case) and provide documentation to verify your identity - usually a passport works fine for foreign tourists. You can either mail everything to the IRS or use an authorized Certified Acceptance Agent, some of which operate internationally. The processing time is typically 6-11 weeks, though it can be longer during busy periods. Just make sure to include all your gambling documentation when you file - the IRS wants to see those casino forms and any withholding statements to process everything correctly.
A couple tips from someone who was in your position last year: 1. Get a dedicated business bank account ASAP if you don't already have one. Mixing personal and business funds is asking for trouble. 2. For your Schedule C, pay careful attention to inventory vs. expenses. If you're selling physical products, the items you buy for resale go in the Cost of Goods Sold section, not as regular business expenses. 3. If you've been using your personal vehicle for business, track those miles! That's a valuable deduction. 4. Don't stress too much about the LLC transition between states. As others mentioned, for federal taxes you're just reporting on Schedule C regardless.
Logan, you're definitely not alone in feeling overwhelmed - starting a business and handling taxes for the first time is genuinely stressful! But the good news is that your situation is pretty straightforward once you understand the basics. A few key points to ease your mind: **Entity vs. Tax Treatment**: Your LLC is just a legal wrapper - for taxes, you're still filing as a sole proprietor using Schedule C on your personal return. The IRS doesn't care which state your LLC is in for federal tax purposes. **Self-Employment Tax Reality Check**: Yes, you'll owe self-employment tax on your $5,500 profit (about $777 total). It's not optional, but it's also not as scary as it sounds. **Family Loan Handling**: That $15k is a loan, not income, so it doesn't affect your taxes. But do document it properly with a simple written agreement - even family loans should have basic paperwork. **Record Keeping**: Since you're using Stripe/Shopify, you probably have better transaction records than most new business owners. That's actually a huge advantage. One thing I'd add - consider making quarterly estimated tax payments for 2024 to avoid a big bill next year. With $5,500 profit, you probably won't owe penalties for 2023, but planning ahead helps. You've got this! The hardest part is often just getting started.
This is such a helpful breakdown, thank you! The quarterly estimated tax payments tip is something I hadn't even thought about yet. Do you know roughly what percentage of profit I should set aside for those payments? I want to avoid getting hit with penalties next year like you mentioned. Also, when you mention documenting the family loan - should I backdate the agreement to when I originally received the money, or just date it now when I'm creating the paperwork?
This thread has been incredibly helpful! I'm in a similar situation with my small business and had no idea about the $600 threshold for 1099-K reporting from payment processors. One thing I'm curious about - does the timing matter? Like if I receive payment in December but it doesn't clear/settle until January, which tax year does it count for? I've had some larger payments right around year-end that I'm not sure how to handle. Also, for those using separate business accounts - do you recommend having multiple business accounts (like one for operating expenses and another for tax savings), or does that just complicate things further when it comes to IRS visibility? I'm trying to get more organized for next year and want to set up the best system from the start. Thanks to everyone sharing their experiences - it's really helping me understand what I need to be doing differently!
Great questions about timing! For tax purposes, it generally depends on your accounting method. Most small businesses use cash accounting, which means income is reported when you actually receive it (when it hits your account), not when the payment is initiated. So if payment is received in December but settles in January, it would typically count for the January tax year. However, for 1099-K reporting, the payment processors usually report based on when the transaction was processed on their end, which could create timing differences you'll need to reconcile. Regarding multiple business accounts - I'd actually recommend keeping it simple, especially when you're getting started. One dedicated business checking account and maybe one business savings account for tax reserves is usually sufficient. Too many accounts can make bookkeeping more complex and create more statements you need to track and potentially explain if audited. The IRS cares more about clear separation between business and personal funds than having multiple business accounts. The key is consistency in whatever system you choose and making sure every transaction has a clear business purpose that you can document.
This whole discussion has been eye-opening! I've been running my small landscaping business for about 2 years and honestly had no clue about most of these reporting requirements. The $600 threshold for 1099-K forms is news to me - I definitely exceed that through Square payments. One thing that's making me nervous after reading everyone's experiences: I've been pretty casual about cash payments. I do a lot of one-time yard cleanups where customers just hand me cash at the end of the job. I write it down in a little notebook, but I'm realizing that might not be enough if I ever get audited. Should I be giving customers receipts for cash payments even for small jobs like $75 leaf cleanups? And what about tips - if a customer adds a $20 tip to their regular service payment, does that need to be tracked separately or just included in the total income? Also, I sometimes use my personal truck for business and put gas on my personal credit card, then transfer money from business to personal to cover it. From what I'm reading here, that kind of mixing might create issues. Would it be better to get a business credit card just for expenses like that? Thanks for all the insights everyone - definitely going to be more careful about my record keeping going forward!
I'm so sorry for your family's loss. Having been through a similar situation when my father passed and left my mother to navigate finances she'd never handled before, I completely understand how overwhelming and scary this transition must be. You're absolutely doing the right thing with FreeTaxUSA, and your instincts are correct to question the previous accountant's method. For traditional IRA distributions that are fully taxable (which is almost always the case unless there were non-deductible contributions made over the years), both line 4a and line 4b should indeed show the same amount that matches boxes 1 and 2a on the 1099-R. The fact that the accountant left line 4a blank while only filling 4b is definitely incorrect according to current IRS instructions. This was likely either an outdated practice that got carried forward year after year, or simply a recurring error that nobody caught. While it probably didn't change the actual tax owed, it's not proper form completion. What's wonderful is that your mom isn't just saving $550 - she's actually getting more accurate tax preparation than she's been receiving. The confidence she's building in understanding her own finances during this difficult time is incredibly valuable and will serve her well going forward. You should feel completely confident moving forward with FreeTaxUSA. You have the 1099-R documentation to support the amounts, and you're following proper IRS reporting guidelines. Your mom is fortunate to have such caring support as she learns to take control of her financial situation.
Thank you so much for sharing your personal experience with a similar situation - it really helps to know that others have successfully navigated this same difficult transition after losing a spouse who handled all the finances. Your confirmation about FreeTaxUSA being correct is incredibly reassuring, especially coming from someone who has been through this exact scenario. It's still hard to believe that a professional accountant could make the same error for so many years, but clearly that's what happened here. The point you made about mom "building confidence in understanding her own finances" really resonates. Yesterday she actually said she wishes she had learned about this stuff years ago instead of just letting my stepdad handle everything. While the circumstances are heartbreaking, there's something empowering about her taking control of this aspect of her life. Thank you for the validation that we're making the right choice. Reading all these responses from knowledgeable community members has been such a lifeline during a really overwhelming time. We're definitely moving forward with FreeTaxUSA and feeling confident about it.
I'm so sorry for your family's loss and the challenging situation you're helping your mom navigate. Losing a spouse who managed all the finances can feel overwhelming, especially during an already difficult time of grief. You're absolutely making the right decision with FreeTaxUSA. Based on everything you've described, the software is handling the IRA distribution reporting correctly according to current IRS guidelines. For traditional IRA distributions that are fully taxable (which is typical unless there were non-deductible contributions), both line 4a (total IRA distributions) and line 4b (taxable amount) should show the same number that matches boxes 1 and 2a on the 1099-R. The previous accountant's practice of leaving line 4a blank while only filling line 4b was indeed incorrect. This could have been an outdated method or simply an error that got repeated year after year. While it likely didn't affect the actual tax calculation, it's not proper form completion according to IRS instructions. What's truly wonderful is that you're not only helping your mom save over $500 annually, but you're also ensuring her taxes are filed more accurately than they have been in recent years. The confidence she's gaining in understanding her own finances during this transition is invaluable. Trust FreeTaxUSA on this one - you have the documentation to support the reporting, and multiple experienced community members here have confirmed this is the correct approach. Your mom should feel proud of taking control of her finances during such a challenging time.
Malik Davis
Great question! I was in the same boat last year with my first direct deposit refund. As others mentioned, you'll typically see "IRS TREAS 310" followed by something like "TAX REF" or "TAXREFUND" in your transaction description. The deposit usually happens early in the morning, so I'd recommend checking first thing when you wake up rather than obsessively checking throughout the day (though I totally did that too!). One thing I wish I'd known - if you filed exactly 2 weeks ago and chose direct deposit, you're right in that sweet spot where it could hit any day now. The IRS usually processes e-filed returns within 21 days, but direct deposits often come through faster than that. With your $1,780 refund amount, it should come through as one single transaction. Keep an eye out for that "IRS TREAS 310" description - it really does stand out once you see it!
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Keisha Jackson
ā¢Thanks for the detailed info! This is super helpful as a first-timer with direct deposit. I'm definitely guilty of checking my account multiple times a day already š It's reassuring to know that the "IRS TREAS 310" label is pretty unmistakable. I'll try to be more patient and just check once in the morning like you suggested. The 21-day timeframe gives me some peace of mind too - I was starting to worry since some people online were saying theirs came in just a few days. Appreciate you sharing your experience!
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Malik Robinson
ā¢@Keisha Jackson You re'so welcome! I totally get the obsessive checking - I think we ve'all been there with our first direct deposit refund! One more tip that might help with the waiting: if you have the IRS2Go app or access to the Where "s'My Refund tool" online, it usually updates with a deposit date about 1-2 days before the money actually hits your account. So once you see refund "sent with" a date, you know exactly when to expect it. The anticipation is the worst part, but once that deposit hits, it s'such a relief! Good luck and hopefully you ll'see that IRS TREAS 310 transaction very soon! š¤
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ThunderBolt7
I just went through this exact same situation a few months ago! The deposit will show up as "IRS TREAS 310" followed by something like "TAX REF" - it's pretty unmistakable when you see it. Since you filed 2 weeks ago via e-file with direct deposit, you're definitely in the window where it could hit any day now. One thing that helped ease my anxiety was setting up account alerts on my banking app for any deposits over $1000 (or whatever threshold works for you). That way you'll get notified immediately when it hits instead of constantly refreshing your account. The IRS typically deposits early in the morning, so I'd check first thing when you wake up rather than throughout the day. With your $1,780 refund including education credits, it should come through as one complete deposit. Hang in there - the waiting is definitely the hardest part!
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Luca Esposito
ā¢This is such great advice about setting up account alerts! I never thought of doing that but it makes so much sense - would definitely save me from checking my account 20 times a day. The early morning deposit timing is good to know too. I've been checking randomly throughout the day thinking it could come at any time. Thanks for sharing your experience with the process, it really helps to hear from someone who just went through the same thing recently!
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