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Can foreign tourists winning at US casinos be taxed? Tax obligations for visa holders with gambling winnings

I'm wondering about a hypothetical situation. Let's say a friend from overseas visits the United States with just a tourism visa and gets incredibly lucky at the casinos during their vacation. For example, they hit jackpots worth $5,000 at four different casinos, walking away with about $20,000 total before flying back to their home country. Would the IRS still expect to collect taxes on these gambling winnings even though this person isn't a tax resident of the US and was just visiting temporarily on a tourist visa? They don't have a US social security number or anything like that. I'm particularly curious since this friend comes from a country that doesn't tax gambling winnings at all. Would they still need to file some kind of US tax form? Or can tourists just walk away with their casino winnings tax-free?

Yes, foreign tourists who win money gambling in the US are generally subject to US taxes on those winnings, even if they're just here on a tourism visa. The IRS considers gambling winnings to be US-source income, which means it's taxable regardless of your residency status. For significant winnings (usually over $1,200 for most games), the casino is actually required to withhold 30% for non-resident aliens before even paying out the winnings. They'll give you a form called 1042-S documenting the withholding, and you'd technically need to file a 1040-NR (Non-Resident tax return) to report these winnings. The withholding rate might be lower depending on tax treaties between the US and your friend's home country, but they'd need to provide the casino with their foreign tax ID and form W-8BEN to claim any treaty benefits.

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But how would they even track this if the tourist just goes back to their country? And what if they won smaller amounts at different casinos that didn't require reporting? Also would they need an ITIN number to file that 1040-NR form you mentioned?

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The casinos are required to get identification before paying out substantial winnings, which creates a paper trail. Many casinos now also track play using player cards, making it easier to monitor cumulative winnings. For smaller amounts below reporting thresholds, it becomes more challenging for the IRS to track, but legally the tourist still owes taxes on those winnings. Yes, they would need to apply for an ITIN (Individual Taxpayer Identification Number) to file a 1040-NR if they don't already have a Social Security Number.

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Does it work for other types of foreign income too? Like if I have rental income from another country but live in the US now?

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From personal experience, I won about $8,500 at Mohegan Sun last year (I'm Canadian). The casino immediately withheld 30% before giving me the rest. They gave me a form but honestly I never filed anything after. It's been over a year and I haven't heard anything from the IRS. Not saying that's the right approach, just sharing what happened in my case.

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Doesn't Canada have a tax treaty with the US that reduces the withholding? I think it's supposed to be 15% not 30%. You might be able to get some money back if you file properly.

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You're absolutely right about the tax treaty. I didn't know that at the time, and the casino staff didn't mention anything about reduced rates for Canadians. I just looked into it, and it seems I could still file to get back the difference between the 30% they withheld and the 15% treaty rate. Thanks for pointing this out - definitely going to look into filing for that refund now!

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Something nobody's mentioned yet: if your friend gambled at table games like blackjack or roulette rather than slots, the reporting requirements are different. For table games, casinos often don't report or withhold unless it's a REALLY big win. The reporting is way more strict for slot machines and lottery-type winnings. Just something to consider depending on what games they played.

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This is true! My brother visits from Mexico every year and plays a lot of poker and blackjack. He's won several thousand multiple times but has never had withholding because of how he won. Slot machine jackpots get reported right away though.

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Just to add some clarity on the reporting thresholds - casinos are required to issue Form W-2G and withhold taxes when slot machine or bingo winnings are $1,200 or more, poker tournament winnings exceed $5,000, or other gambling winnings are over $5,000 AND at least 300 times the wager. For your friend's situation with $5,000 wins at four different casinos, each individual win would likely trigger reporting and withholding if they were from slots. However, if these were from table games like blackjack where they gradually built up to $5,000, the casino might not have reported anything. The key thing to remember is that even if the casino doesn't report or withhold, the tourist is still legally required to report ALL gambling winnings on their tax return. The IRS expects honesty even when there's no paper trail. Given the amounts involved ($20,000 total), I'd definitely recommend your friend consult with a tax professional who understands international tax obligations.

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