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Just following up - were you able to get clarity on this? For anyone finding this thread later, here's the official word: According to the EDD's UI benefit determination guide, distributions from qualified retirement plans (including 401k, IRA, etc.) are NOT considered wages for UI purposes. These distributions should not affect your weekly benefit amount. However, ongoing pension payments (not one-time distributions) might reduce your benefits, depending on whether your base period employer contributed to that pension. The safest approach is always to report and let EDD make the determination rather than risk an overpayment situation.

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Yes! I finally got through to EDD yesterday. The representative confirmed exactly what you said - since this is a qualified 401k distribution and not ongoing pension payments, it won't affect my weekly benefits. I still need to report it on my taxes of course, but for UI purposes I'm in the clear. Thank you all for the helpful advice!

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Great to hear you got confirmation from EDD! This is such a common source of confusion for people dealing with layoffs. Your experience perfectly illustrates why it's worth the hassle of getting through to an actual representative when you're unsure - better to get the official word than stress about it or potentially miss out on benefits you're entitled to. Thanks for following up with the resolution - this thread will definitely help others in similar situations!

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This thread has been super helpful! I'm actually in a similar situation - got laid off from a startup last week and have some stock options that are about to expire. Reading through all these responses, it sounds like I should definitely get clarification from EDD about how those might be treated differently from retirement distributions. The distinction between qualified retirement plans and other types of compensation seems really important. Thanks everyone for sharing your experiences!

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Congrats on getting approved! This is such a helpful thread for anyone in education dealing with the same confusion. The EDD system really needs better category labels - "Public Administration" for schools is so non-intuitive. Your tip about adding explanatory notes in the comments section is gold. I'm bookmarking this whole discussion in case I ever need to file again. Thanks for taking the time to update us with the outcome!

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Absolutely agree! This thread should be pinned or something - so many educators probably run into this exact same problem. The fact that "Educational Services" is buried as a subcategory under "Professional, Scientific and Technical Services" while public schools go under "Public Administration" is just asking for confusion. Really appreciate everyone sharing their experiences here, especially the W-2 employer ID tip from Mateo. That's the kind of detailed info you can't find anywhere in EDD's official documentation!

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This thread is incredibly valuable! As someone who works in educational administration, I've helped several colleagues navigate this exact issue. One additional tip: if you're ever unsure about your classification, you can also check your employer's NAICS code (North American Industry Classification System) which should be on file with the state. Schools typically fall under codes 611110 (Elementary/Secondary) or 611310 (Colleges/Universities), both of which map to "Public Administration" in the EDD system for public institutions, or "Educational Services" under Professional Services for private ones. It's frustrating that EDD doesn't make this clearer, but at least now there's a great resource thread here for future filers!

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Hi Katelyn! I had the same issue trying to get DE 2580GF. Since it's not available online, I called EDD's PFL line directly at 1-877-238-4373 and asked them to email it to me instead of mail - that worked much faster than waiting for postal mail. You can also try asking them to fax it if you have access to a fax machine. Sometimes persistence with different representatives helps too. Good luck!

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I've been dealing with EDD for months and this is such a common issue! The DE 2580GF form seems to be one of those that they just don't have available online for some reason. In addition to calling the PFL line that Emma mentioned, you can also try going to your local EDD office in person if there's one nearby - sometimes they have physical copies available. Also, if you have a case worker or have spoken to someone before, try to get their direct extension so you don't have to go through the main phone tree every time. The key is really just being persistent and trying different channels until someone actually follows through. Hope you get it sorted out soon!

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Thanks Miguel, that's really helpful advice! I'm new to dealing with EDD and didn't realize you could visit local offices for forms. Do you happen to know if all EDD offices have the DE 2580GF form available, or should I call ahead first to make sure they have it before making the trip? I want to avoid wasting time going to an office that doesn't have what I need.

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I'm really sorry to hear about your situation after 39 years of dedicated service - that's absolutely heartbreaking and infuriating. But I'm so glad you found this supportive community! Everyone here has given you fantastic advice about filing for unemployment (which you absolutely should do immediately), but I wanted to share something that might help with the overwhelming feeling of starting over at 65. My father-in-law went through something very similar at 63 after 35 years with his company. He was devastated at first, but it actually ended up being one of the best things that happened to him. While collecting unemployment, he took time to really think about what he wanted to do next instead of just jumping into the first opportunity. He ended up finding a part-time consulting role in his field that paid better per hour than his old job, gave him flexible scheduling, and let him travel to interesting projects. He's been happier and less stressed than he was in his final years at the old company. The key is not to rush into anything just because you feel pressure. You've earned these unemployment benefits - use them as breathing room to explore options you might never have considered before. Sometimes what feels like an ending is actually a new beginning in disguise. Stay strong, and don't let them push you around after all those years of loyal service. You've got this! 💪

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Carmen, thank you for sharing your father-in-law's story - that's exactly the kind of hope I needed to hear right now! It's so easy to get caught up in the panic and feel like I need to take the first thing that comes along, but you're absolutely right about using this time to really think about what I want next. After 39 years in the same role, I honestly haven't thought about what else might be out there. The idea of consulting work sounds really appealing - I have a lot of expertise that could be valuable in a different format. It's encouraging to know that this could actually turn into something better than what I had before. Thank you for the reminder that I've earned these benefits and shouldn't feel guilty about taking time to explore my options properly! 💙

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I'm so sorry to hear about your sudden termination after 39 years - that must be absolutely devastating and such a shock to your system. What your company did is unfortunately all too common, but please know that you have every right to feel angry and confused right now. Everyone here has given you excellent advice about filing for unemployment immediately, and they're absolutely correct. I wanted to add that you should also consider reaching out to AARP's job search resources (aarp.org/work) - they have specific programs and job boards for workers 50+ and can help you navigate age discrimination issues. They also offer free resume review services and interview coaching, which might be helpful since the job market has changed so much. Also, when you do start your job search, don't underestimate the value of your 39 years of experience. Many companies actually prefer hiring mature workers because of their reliability, work ethic, and institutional knowledge. Consider highlighting skills like mentoring, training, problem-solving, and any process improvements you've implemented over the years. Take care of yourself during this transition - this is a major life change and it's normal to feel overwhelmed. You've got decades of proven success behind you, and that foundation will serve you well in whatever comes next. Hang in there! 🙏

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Thank you so much for mentioning AARP's resources, Mateusius! I had completely forgotten about AARP having job search services - that's perfect since they'll understand the unique challenges older workers face. The resume review and interview coaching sound invaluable since I haven't had to do either in decades. You make a great point about highlighting my experience differently - I've been thinking of my long tenure as potentially making me "outdated," but you're right that there's real value in all those years of problem-solving and mentoring. I actually trained dozens of new employees over the years and implemented several process improvements that saved the company significant time and money. I need to reframe this in my mind and start seeing my experience as an asset rather than a liability. Thank you for the encouragement and the practical resources! 🙏

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I'm on day 3 waiting for my EDD debit card and this thread has been a godsend! I was already starting to stress about whether something went wrong when I didn't see the card after my payment status changed to "paid" yesterday. Reading everyone's experiences showing that 10-14 days is totally normal has really calmed my nerves - I was about to start calling EDD thinking there was an issue with my address or something. Just signed up for USPS Informed Delivery after seeing literally everyone recommend it here, and I'm definitely keeping an eye out for that plain envelope so I don't accidentally toss it with junk mail. The waiting anxiety is real when you have bills coming up, but seeing all these successful delivery stories gives me hope that mine will show up within the normal timeframe. Planning to be patient and wait until around day 14 before calling Money Network if needed. Thanks everyone for sharing your timelines - this community is keeping me sane during what would otherwise be a very stressful waiting period!

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I'm on day 4 waiting for my EDD debit card and this thread has been incredibly reassuring! I was starting to get anxious when my payment showed "paid" but no card appeared yet, but reading everyone's experiences here has really put my mind at ease. It's so helpful to know that 10-14 days is completely normal - I was worried something had gone wrong with my address or the system. Just signed up for USPS Informed Delivery after seeing so many people recommend it, and I'll definitely watch out for that plain envelope so I don't accidentally throw it away! The waiting is stressful when you have bills coming up, but seeing all these successful timelines gives me confidence. I'll wait until around day 14 before calling Money Network if needed, and I'm absolutely setting up direct deposit once I get the card. Thank you everyone for sharing your experiences - this community is a lifesaver for managing expectations during this nerve-wracking process!

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