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Denied EDD benefits for 'breaking reasonable employer rule' - appealing with job description evidence

I'm so frustrated right now. I just got denied unemployment benefits after my EDD phone interview last week. The interviewer said I was disqualified because I "broke a reasonable employer rule" which is completely unfair. \n\nWhat happened was I worked at a retail store and was terminated because a daily inventory audit wasn't properly uploaded to the system. I DID complete the audit on time (by 2pm as required), but the store's computer system froze during the upload. I immediately notified the shift lead about the technical issue, but somehow this became grounds for termination.\n\nHere's what's really messed up - inventory audits were actually a SUPERVISOR responsibility according to the official job descriptions, but our store made regular associates do them all the time without supervisor pay. I was doing at least 5 other "supervisor duties" regularly without the title or compensation.\n\nDuring my EDD interview, I explained that the store has security cameras that would show me doing the audit on time, and that I reported the system issue immediately. But the interviewer still ruled against me.\n\nSeveral coworkers have encouraged me to appeal ASAP, saying most claims get denied initially due to all the fraud EDD deals with. One friend's sister won her appeal in a similar situation by proving the duty she was fired over wasn't even in her job description.\n\nI'm planning to appeal, but I'm not sure what evidence to include or how to frame it. Should I get a copy of my official job description? Request the security footage? Get statements from coworkers about supervisor duties? I need to file this appeal quickly and want to make the strongest case possible. Any advice from people who've successfully appealed would be really appreciated!

I'm so sorry you're going through this Isabella! Your situation sounds incredibly frustrating but also very winnable on appeal. The advice from everyone here is excellent - definitely don't give up! One thing I wanted to add that I haven't seen mentioned yet: when you're preparing for your hearing, practice explaining your case out loud beforehand. I know it sounds silly, but when I had my EDD appeal hearing, I was so nervous that I started rambling and almost forgot to mention some key points. Also, regarding the security footage - even if your employer won't provide it, the fact that you can specifically reference what the cameras would show (you completing the audit on time, reporting the system issue immediately) can still be powerful evidence. The judge will note that you're being very specific about verifiable facts. Your case has all the elements of a successful appeal: - Technical failure beyond your control - You followed proper procedures by reporting the issue - The task wasn't in your official job description - You were performing supervisor duties without supervisor pay The initial EDD interviewer probably just checked boxes without really understanding the nuances of your situation. The appeals process is where you'll get a fair hearing from someone who actually reviews the details. Keep us updated on how it goes! This community is rooting for you, and your experience will definitely help others in similar situations. You've got this! 💪

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@Logan Chiang - that s'such great advice about practicing out loud! I never would have thought of that but it makes total sense. When you re'stressed and nervous it s'so easy to forget important details or ramble instead of staying focused on the key points. I m'also really glad you mentioned that even without the actual security footage, being specific about what it would show can still help the case. That takes some pressure off since getting cooperation from former employers can be tricky. @Isabella Costa - I hope you re feeling'encouraged by all this support! Your case really does sound like a textbook example of an unfair denial that should be overturned on appeal. The combination of the technical issue being beyond your control, you following proper procedures, and the task not being in your job description is exactly the kind of thing appeals judges look for. It s honestly'inspiring to see how this community comes together to help each other navigate these bureaucratic nightmares. EDD s initial'denial process seems designed to discourage people from fighting for their rights, but threads like this show that with the right preparation and evidence, justice can prevail. Wishing you the best of luck with your appeal! Please keep us posted on how it goes - your experience will definitely help others facing similar situations.

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I'm new to this community but currently going through my own EDD appeal process, so reading through everyone's advice here has been incredibly helpful! @Isabella Costa - your situation sounds almost identical to what happened to me. I was terminated for not completing a task that was actually outside my official job duties, and like you, I got denied initially. The frustration is real, but don't let it discourage you! Based on what I've learned from my own research and the excellent advice in this thread, you definitely have a strong case. The key points that stand out for your appeal: 1. **Job description mismatch** - This is HUGE. The fact that inventory audits were supervisor duties but you were required to do them as a regular associate shows they were holding you to standards outside your job classification. 2. **Technical failure beyond your control** - You completed the audit on time but couldn't upload due to a system freeze. That's not misconduct, that's a technical issue. 3. **Proper reporting** - You immediately told your shift lead about the problem, showing you followed appropriate procedures. I'd definitely recommend getting that job description in writing ASAP, along with any documentation showing the pay difference between your role and supervisors who were supposed to handle inventory audits. The appeals judges are much more fair than the initial EDD reviewers. From what I've learned, they actually take time to review the facts rather than just rubber-stamping denials. Keep fighting this - you've got solid grounds for an appeal and this community is here to support you! 💪

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@Anita George - thanks for sharing your experience! It s'so reassuring to know that others have gone through similar situations and that the appeals process really can work when you come prepared with the right evidence. I m'also new to this community but have been following this thread closely because I m'dealing with my own EDD issues. The level of support and practical advice here is amazing - it s'given me so much more confidence about challenging my own denial. @Isabella Costa - I hope you re feeling'more optimistic after reading all these success stories and detailed strategies! Your case really does check all the boxes for a successful appeal. The job description evidence alone should be compelling, but combined with the technical issue and your immediate reporting of the problem, it s a'very strong foundation. One small addition to all the great advice already shared - when you re documenting'everything, consider creating a simple folder physical or (digital to keep) all your evidence organized. Having everything in one place makes it much easier when you re preparing'for the hearing and ensures you don t accidentally'leave out any important documents. The fact that EDD seems to deny so many initial claims hoping people won t appeal'is really frustrating, but it s encouraging'to see how many people in this community have successfully fought back and won their cases. Don t let'their intimidation tactics work - you deserve those benefits and have every right to appeal this unfair decision! Rooting for you and everyone else going through this process! 🙏

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To all those having trouble reaching a human at California Unemployment. I just ran across this video that gave me a shortcut to reach a human. Hope it helps! https://youtu.be/Ize0EkN4HDI

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I'm dealing with a similar login issue right now! It's so frustrating when you can't access your account to certify. I've been getting bounced around between different departments too. Has anyone tried clearing their browser cache and cookies before logging in? Sometimes that helps with technical glitches. Also, I noticed someone mentioned the UN department - does anyone have more details on how to specifically request to speak with them when calling EDD? The regular tier 1 and tier 2 reps don't seem to know about account blocks like the one Katelyn had.

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Hey everyone! I just joined this group after dealing with login issues for 2+ months. Reading through this thread gives me some hope that there might be solutions. @Sunny Wang I totally feel your frustration about getting different answers from every rep - I ve'heard everything from system "maintenance to" account "under review to" try "again tomorrow. The" inconsistency is maddening! I m'really intrigued by what @Austin Laricsesy shared about the UN department. Austin, did you ever get through to them like you planned? And @Katelyn Carrasco congratulations on finally getting your block removed! Can you share any details about how the tech support person was able to identify and remove the block? Was there a specific phrase or request that worked? I m calling again'tomorrow and want to be as specific as possible about what I need them to check for. Thanks everyone for sharing your experiences - it helps to know we re not alone'in this mess!

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Hi everyone! I just found this thread and wow, I'm relieved to see I'm not the only one dealing with this login nightmare. I've been locked out for about 5 weeks now and it's been absolute hell trying to get answers from EDD. @Sophia Nguyen your experience sounds identical to mine - every rep gives a completely different explanation! I m'really hoping @Austin Laricsesy can update us on whether they made any progress with the UN department. Has anyone tried asking specifically for a technical "instead of" regular tech support? I m wondering'if there might be different levels within their tech department too. Also @Katelyn Carrasco I m so glad'you finally got through! When the tech support person said your account had a block - did "they" mention what type of block it was or how long it had been there? I m going to'try calling again tomorrow and specifically ask them to check for any blocks on my account. This whole situation is so stressful when you have bills piling up and can t access your'benefits!

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Hi everyone, just made a video about how to call the EDD and reach a live human agent: https://youtu.be/-R4SqP7_JUA

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I'm dealing with a similar situation - filed in December and still haven't received any payments despite submitting all requested documents. The "waiting period" status seems to be EDD's way of saying they're reviewing your for potential flags. From what I've read in other threads, this can take anywhere from 6-12 weeks unfortunately. Have you tried faxing your proof of residency in addition to mailing it? Sometimes that gets processed faster. Also, keep detailed records of every interaction and document you've submitted - dates, confirmation numbers, etc. This will help when you contact your assembly member. Hang in there, you're not alone in this frustrating process!

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Just wanted to add my experience for anyone else going through this nightmare! I finished a 15-week penalty period last summer (yeah, 15 weeks - longest penalty possible for false statement). The key thing everyone's saying is correct - no additional waiting period after penalties end. You just pick up where you left off with regular certifications. BUT here's what nobody mentioned yet: make sure to log into your EDD account a few days before your next certification date to check if there are any notices or requirements. Sometimes they'll post additional forms or questionnaires that need to be completed before you can certify again. I almost missed my certification deadline because I didn't see a "return to work" questionnaire they posted. Also, pro tip: if you haven't already, screenshot or print your penalty completion notice from your account. I had to reference mine later when there was confusion about my payment status. The EDD system sometimes glitches and shows old penalty info even after it's completed. You've survived the worst part - 10 weeks of financial stress is no joke! Just stay on top of all the requirements and you should be getting paid again soon. 💪

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Thanks Zoe! That's a great tip about checking for additional forms before certification. I would have definitely missed that since I've been avoiding logging in during the penalty period (too depressing to look at zero payments). The screenshot idea is smart too - I've learned not to trust the EDD system to keep accurate records of anything! 15 weeks sounds absolutely brutal, I can't imagine how you got through that. Really appreciate everyone sharing their experiences here, it's way more helpful than anything on the official EDD site.

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Just want to echo what everyone else is saying - you're in the clear! No additional waiting period after penalty weeks. I went through an 8-week false statement penalty last fall and was terrified about the same thing. The moment my penalty period ended, I certified on my regular schedule and got paid for both weeks within the normal timeframe. One thing I'd add that helped me mentally prepare: don't panic if your first payment after penalties takes an extra day or two to hit your account. Mine took 4 business days instead of the usual 2-3, but EDD told me that's normal as they do a final review on post-penalty payments. Just wanted you to know in case yours is slightly delayed too. You've made it through the hardest part! Those penalty weeks feel endless when you're living on fumes, but you're about to get back to regular payments. Make sure to keep being extra careful with your certifications going forward - they definitely keep a closer eye on accounts that have had penalties.

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This whole discussion has been incredibly eye-opening! I'm about to file my first unemployment claim after being let go from my marketing job last week, and I had absolutely no idea about this waiting period policy. Reading through everyone's experiences here has definitely saved me from what would have been a lot of unnecessary panic and confusion. It's honestly mind-blowing that EDD doesn't clearly explain this during the application process - like so many others have mentioned, a simple disclaimer would prevent so much stress for people who are already dealing with the anxiety of job loss. I really appreciate how this community comes together to help each other understand these confusing policies. Now I can go into my application knowing exactly what to expect for that first week and can budget accordingly. Thanks to everyone who took the time to share their knowledge and experiences!

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I'm so glad you found this thread before filing your claim! You're going to be way ahead of the game compared to most of us who went in blind. It really is amazing how much stress could be avoided if EDD just added one simple sentence about the waiting period during the application. Since you're just starting the process, here's a tip that helped me: when you get to that first week certification and see "waiting period served" with no payment, just remind yourself it's totally normal and exactly what should happen. Also, make sure you still do your work search activities during that week even though you're not getting paid - all the regular requirements still apply. Good luck with your application and welcome to what will hopefully be a short stay in the unemployment system!

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This thread is absolutely amazing! I'm in week 3 of my claim after getting laid off from a retail management position, and I had the exact same confusion about that "waiting period served" status. I actually spent an entire afternoon trying to figure out if there was an error with my account because I couldn't find any clear explanation on the EDD website. Reading through all these responses has been such a relief - it's incredible how many of us went through the same panic thinking we did something wrong! The analogy of it being like a deductible really helps put it in perspective. I wish I had found this community sooner instead of stressing about it for days. EDD really needs to step up their communication game and explain this basic policy clearly during the application process. A simple "Note: Your first week will be an unpaid waiting period as required by California law" would save so many people from unnecessary anxiety. Thank you to everyone who shared their experiences and helped make this confusing process a little clearer for newcomers like me!

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I'm so glad this thread helped you too! I'm actually brand new to this whole unemployment process - just filed my claim yesterday after getting laid off from my office job. Reading through everyone's experiences here has been incredibly valuable preparation for what's coming. It's honestly pretty sad that we all have to rely on community forums to understand basic policies that should be clearly explained by EDD itself. The fact that so many people had the exact same confusion and panic response really shows how poor their communication is about this standard procedure. I love your suggestion about adding that simple note during the application - it would literally solve this problem for thousands of people! Thanks for sharing your experience and for helping make this process less scary for those of us just starting out.

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