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Denied EDD benefits for 'breaking reasonable employer rule' - appealing with job description evidence

I'm so frustrated right now. I just got denied unemployment benefits after my EDD phone interview last week. The interviewer said I was disqualified because I "broke a reasonable employer rule" which is completely unfair. \n\nWhat happened was I worked at a retail store and was terminated because a daily inventory audit wasn't properly uploaded to the system. I DID complete the audit on time (by 2pm as required), but the store's computer system froze during the upload. I immediately notified the shift lead about the technical issue, but somehow this became grounds for termination.\n\nHere's what's really messed up - inventory audits were actually a SUPERVISOR responsibility according to the official job descriptions, but our store made regular associates do them all the time without supervisor pay. I was doing at least 5 other "supervisor duties" regularly without the title or compensation.\n\nDuring my EDD interview, I explained that the store has security cameras that would show me doing the audit on time, and that I reported the system issue immediately. But the interviewer still ruled against me.\n\nSeveral coworkers have encouraged me to appeal ASAP, saying most claims get denied initially due to all the fraud EDD deals with. One friend's sister won her appeal in a similar situation by proving the duty she was fired over wasn't even in her job description.\n\nI'm planning to appeal, but I'm not sure what evidence to include or how to frame it. Should I get a copy of my official job description? Request the security footage? Get statements from coworkers about supervisor duties? I need to file this appeal quickly and want to make the strongest case possible. Any advice from people who've successfully appealed would be really appreciated!

I'm so sorry you're going through this Isabella! Your situation sounds incredibly frustrating but also very winnable on appeal. The advice from everyone here is excellent - definitely don't give up! One thing I wanted to add that I haven't seen mentioned yet: when you're preparing for your hearing, practice explaining your case out loud beforehand. I know it sounds silly, but when I had my EDD appeal hearing, I was so nervous that I started rambling and almost forgot to mention some key points. Also, regarding the security footage - even if your employer won't provide it, the fact that you can specifically reference what the cameras would show (you completing the audit on time, reporting the system issue immediately) can still be powerful evidence. The judge will note that you're being very specific about verifiable facts. Your case has all the elements of a successful appeal: - Technical failure beyond your control - You followed proper procedures by reporting the issue - The task wasn't in your official job description - You were performing supervisor duties without supervisor pay The initial EDD interviewer probably just checked boxes without really understanding the nuances of your situation. The appeals process is where you'll get a fair hearing from someone who actually reviews the details. Keep us updated on how it goes! This community is rooting for you, and your experience will definitely help others in similar situations. You've got this! 💪

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@Logan Chiang - that s'such great advice about practicing out loud! I never would have thought of that but it makes total sense. When you re'stressed and nervous it s'so easy to forget important details or ramble instead of staying focused on the key points. I m'also really glad you mentioned that even without the actual security footage, being specific about what it would show can still help the case. That takes some pressure off since getting cooperation from former employers can be tricky. @Isabella Costa - I hope you re feeling'encouraged by all this support! Your case really does sound like a textbook example of an unfair denial that should be overturned on appeal. The combination of the technical issue being beyond your control, you following proper procedures, and the task not being in your job description is exactly the kind of thing appeals judges look for. It s honestly'inspiring to see how this community comes together to help each other navigate these bureaucratic nightmares. EDD s initial'denial process seems designed to discourage people from fighting for their rights, but threads like this show that with the right preparation and evidence, justice can prevail. Wishing you the best of luck with your appeal! Please keep us posted on how it goes - your experience will definitely help others facing similar situations.

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I'm new to this community but currently going through my own EDD appeal process, so reading through everyone's advice here has been incredibly helpful! @Isabella Costa - your situation sounds almost identical to what happened to me. I was terminated for not completing a task that was actually outside my official job duties, and like you, I got denied initially. The frustration is real, but don't let it discourage you! Based on what I've learned from my own research and the excellent advice in this thread, you definitely have a strong case. The key points that stand out for your appeal: 1. **Job description mismatch** - This is HUGE. The fact that inventory audits were supervisor duties but you were required to do them as a regular associate shows they were holding you to standards outside your job classification. 2. **Technical failure beyond your control** - You completed the audit on time but couldn't upload due to a system freeze. That's not misconduct, that's a technical issue. 3. **Proper reporting** - You immediately told your shift lead about the problem, showing you followed appropriate procedures. I'd definitely recommend getting that job description in writing ASAP, along with any documentation showing the pay difference between your role and supervisors who were supposed to handle inventory audits. The appeals judges are much more fair than the initial EDD reviewers. From what I've learned, they actually take time to review the facts rather than just rubber-stamping denials. Keep fighting this - you've got solid grounds for an appeal and this community is here to support you! 💪

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@Anita George - thanks for sharing your experience! It s'so reassuring to know that others have gone through similar situations and that the appeals process really can work when you come prepared with the right evidence. I m'also new to this community but have been following this thread closely because I m'dealing with my own EDD issues. The level of support and practical advice here is amazing - it s'given me so much more confidence about challenging my own denial. @Isabella Costa - I hope you re feeling'more optimistic after reading all these success stories and detailed strategies! Your case really does check all the boxes for a successful appeal. The job description evidence alone should be compelling, but combined with the technical issue and your immediate reporting of the problem, it s a'very strong foundation. One small addition to all the great advice already shared - when you re documenting'everything, consider creating a simple folder physical or (digital to keep) all your evidence organized. Having everything in one place makes it much easier when you re preparing'for the hearing and ensures you don t accidentally'leave out any important documents. The fact that EDD seems to deny so many initial claims hoping people won t appeal'is really frustrating, but it s encouraging'to see how many people in this community have successfully fought back and won their cases. Don t let'their intimidation tactics work - you deserve those benefits and have every right to appeal this unfair decision! Rooting for you and everyone else going through this process! 🙏

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To all those having trouble reaching a human at California Unemployment. I just ran across this video that gave me a shortcut to reach a human. Hope it helps! https://youtu.be/Ize0EkN4HDI

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Zane Gray

I'm dealing with a similar login issue right now! It's so frustrating when you can't access your account to certify. I've been getting bounced around between different departments too. Has anyone tried clearing their browser cache and cookies before logging in? Sometimes that helps with technical glitches. Also, I noticed someone mentioned the UN department - does anyone have more details on how to specifically request to speak with them when calling EDD? The regular tier 1 and tier 2 reps don't seem to know about account blocks like the one Katelyn had.

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Hey everyone! I just joined this group after dealing with login issues for 2+ months. Reading through this thread gives me some hope that there might be solutions. @Sunny Wang I totally feel your frustration about getting different answers from every rep - I ve'heard everything from system "maintenance to" account "under review to" try "again tomorrow. The" inconsistency is maddening! I m'really intrigued by what @Austin Laricsesy shared about the UN department. Austin, did you ever get through to them like you planned? And @Katelyn Carrasco congratulations on finally getting your block removed! Can you share any details about how the tech support person was able to identify and remove the block? Was there a specific phrase or request that worked? I m calling again'tomorrow and want to be as specific as possible about what I need them to check for. Thanks everyone for sharing your experiences - it helps to know we re not alone'in this mess!

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Hi everyone! I just found this thread and wow, I'm relieved to see I'm not the only one dealing with this login nightmare. I've been locked out for about 5 weeks now and it's been absolute hell trying to get answers from EDD. @Sophia Nguyen your experience sounds identical to mine - every rep gives a completely different explanation! I m'really hoping @Austin Laricsesy can update us on whether they made any progress with the UN department. Has anyone tried asking specifically for a technical "instead of" regular tech support? I m wondering'if there might be different levels within their tech department too. Also @Katelyn Carrasco I m so glad'you finally got through! When the tech support person said your account had a block - did "they" mention what type of block it was or how long it had been there? I m going to'try calling again tomorrow and specifically ask them to check for any blocks on my account. This whole situation is so stressful when you have bills piling up and can t access your'benefits!

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Hi everyone, just made a video about how to call the EDD and reach a live human agent: https://youtu.be/-R4SqP7_JUA

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I'm dealing with a similar situation - filed in December and still haven't received any payments despite submitting all requested documents. The "waiting period" status seems to be EDD's way of saying they're reviewing your for potential flags. From what I've read in other threads, this can take anywhere from 6-12 weeks unfortunately. Have you tried faxing your proof of residency in addition to mailing it? Sometimes that gets processed faster. Also, keep detailed records of every interaction and document you've submitted - dates, confirmation numbers, etc. This will help when you contact your assembly member. Hang in there, you're not alone in this frustrating process!

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Just wanted to add my experience for anyone else going through this nightmare! I finished a 15-week penalty period last summer (yeah, 15 weeks - longest penalty possible for false statement). The key thing everyone's saying is correct - no additional waiting period after penalties end. You just pick up where you left off with regular certifications. BUT here's what nobody mentioned yet: make sure to log into your EDD account a few days before your next certification date to check if there are any notices or requirements. Sometimes they'll post additional forms or questionnaires that need to be completed before you can certify again. I almost missed my certification deadline because I didn't see a "return to work" questionnaire they posted. Also, pro tip: if you haven't already, screenshot or print your penalty completion notice from your account. I had to reference mine later when there was confusion about my payment status. The EDD system sometimes glitches and shows old penalty info even after it's completed. You've survived the worst part - 10 weeks of financial stress is no joke! Just stay on top of all the requirements and you should be getting paid again soon. 💪

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Thanks Zoe! That's a great tip about checking for additional forms before certification. I would have definitely missed that since I've been avoiding logging in during the penalty period (too depressing to look at zero payments). The screenshot idea is smart too - I've learned not to trust the EDD system to keep accurate records of anything! 15 weeks sounds absolutely brutal, I can't imagine how you got through that. Really appreciate everyone sharing their experiences here, it's way more helpful than anything on the official EDD site.

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Just want to echo what everyone else is saying - you're in the clear! No additional waiting period after penalty weeks. I went through an 8-week false statement penalty last fall and was terrified about the same thing. The moment my penalty period ended, I certified on my regular schedule and got paid for both weeks within the normal timeframe. One thing I'd add that helped me mentally prepare: don't panic if your first payment after penalties takes an extra day or two to hit your account. Mine took 4 business days instead of the usual 2-3, but EDD told me that's normal as they do a final review on post-penalty payments. Just wanted you to know in case yours is slightly delayed too. You've made it through the hardest part! Those penalty weeks feel endless when you're living on fumes, but you're about to get back to regular payments. Make sure to keep being extra careful with your certifications going forward - they definitely keep a closer eye on accounts that have had penalties.

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I experienced this exact same problem and it was driving me crazy! After missing 3 callbacks, I discovered that my 's "Do Not Disturb" settings were automatically enabled during certain hours. Even though my showed it was off, there was a scheduled DND that I had forgotten about. Check your DND settings thoroughly - sometimes there are multiple layers of call filtering that can interfere. Also, if you're using Google Voice or any call forwarding services, those can sometimes cause issues with receiving callbacks. I ended up temporarily disabling all call filtering features and finally got through on my next callback. The relief when that actually rang was incredible! Don't give up - there's usually a solution hiding in your settings somewhere.

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This is such a comprehensive breakdown of potential issues! I never considered that Do Not Disturb might have scheduled settings that I forgot about. Just checked mine and found I had it set to automatically turn on during "work hours" which is exactly when EDD would be calling. Also didn't realize that Google Voice could interfere - I do have that set up for some of my business calls. Going to disable everything temporarily like you suggested. It's reassuring to know that others have figured this out and there are actual solutions. The stress of missing these callbacks is unreal, especially when you've been waiting so long just to get one scheduled. Thanks for sharing your experience - it gives me several new things to try!

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I had this exact same frustrating experience! After missing several callbacks, I discovered it was a combination of issues. First, check if your has any "Scam Shield" or similar carrier-level blocking - I called my carrier and they had automatically enabled spam protection that was flagging the EDD number. Second, make sure your box isn't full or close to full, as this can cause to fail before they even ring. Third, try restarting your completely before your next scheduled callback - sometimes there are background processes interfering with incoming calls. I also recommend testing by having a friend call you from an unknown number to see if it rings through properly. After fixing these issues, my next callback came through perfectly. It's such a relief when you finally hear that ring! Don't lose hope - there's usually a technical solution hiding somewhere in your or carrier settings.

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This is incredibly thorough and helpful! I never thought about testing with a friend calling from an unknown number - that's such a smart way to diagnose if the issue is actually with your settings. I just checked and my is indeed almost full, which could definitely be causing problems. Also going to call my carrier tomorrow about any automatic scam protection they might have enabled. The restart suggestion makes sense too - sometimes the simplest solutions are the ones we overlook. It's so reassuring to see that multiple people have dealt with this and found ways to fix it. The anxiety of waiting for a callback and then missing it is terrible, especially when you don't even know why it's happening. Thank you for taking the time to share all these troubleshooting steps!

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