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Who funds unemployment benefits in Washington - confused about where the money comes from

I've been on unemployment for about 6 weeks now and I keep wondering where this money is actually coming from. My neighbor said it comes from taxpayers but my cousin said employers pay for it. I tried looking it up on the Washington ESD website but couldn't find a clear answer. Does anyone know who actually funds these unemployment benefits? I feel like I should understand this better since I'm receiving them.

Your cousin is mostly right - unemployment insurance in Washington is primarily funded by employers through payroll taxes. They pay both state and federal unemployment taxes based on their payroll. It's not coming out of general tax revenue like some other programs.

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That makes me feel better actually. So it's like insurance that employers have been paying into?

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Exactly! It's called unemployment insurance for a reason. Employers pay premiums just like any other insurance policy.

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there's actually multiple funding sources. employers pay the main part but there's also federal funding for extended benefits during high unemployment periods

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So during COVID when benefits were extended, that was federal money?

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yeah programs like PEUC and PUA were federally funded. regular UI is mostly employer-funded though

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Interesting, might have to check that out. I've been trying to reach someone about my job search requirements for days.

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The funding structure is actually pretty complex. In Washington, employers pay into the unemployment insurance trust fund at different rates depending on their industry and layoff history. Companies that lay off more workers pay higher rates - it's called experience rating.

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That seems fair. So companies that cause more unemployment claims pay more?

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Right, it incentivizes employers to maintain stable employment. The rates can vary significantly between employers.

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Wait I thought we paid into it too through our paychecks? I swear I see deductions for unemployment insurance

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In Washington state, employees don't pay into regular unemployment insurance. You might be thinking of other deductions like disability insurance.

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oh maybe that's what I'm thinking of then. good to know!

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This whole system is so confusing! I've been trying to understand how my benefits are calculated too but Washington ESD's website is like reading a foreign language. Why can't they explain things in plain English?

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Tell me about it. I spent forever trying to figure out my weekly benefit amount calculation.

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The benefit calculation is based on your highest earning quarter in your base year. It's actually pretty straightforward once you understand the formula.

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there's also administrative costs that come from the employer taxes. washington esd operations, the computer systems, staff salaries - all funded through those employer contributions

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Makes sense. Someone has to pay for all those systems and workers processing claims.

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I remember reading that during recessions, when the state trust fund runs low, Washington can borrow from the federal government to keep paying benefits. Anyone know if that's true?

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Yes, that's correct. States can take federal loans when their trust funds are depleted. During the 2008 recession and COVID pandemic, many states had to borrow.

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Interesting. Do states have to pay that back?

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They do, usually through higher federal unemployment taxes on employers until the loan is repaid.

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Speaking of getting answers from Washington ESD - has anyone else had luck with that Claimyr service mentioned earlier? I'm desperate to talk to someone about my claim status.

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Yeah it worked great for me. Finally got through after weeks of trying the regular number.

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I was skeptical at first but tried it last week. Actually got connected to an agent who cleared up my adjudication issues.

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just to clarify - regular unemployment insurance is employer-funded but employees in some states do pay a small amount. washington isn't one of them though

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Good to know. So in Washington it's 100% employer-funded for regular UI?

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correct, employees don't contribute to the UI fund in washington state

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The trust fund balance fluctuates a lot. When unemployment is low, it builds up. When it's high like during COVID, it gets drained fast. That's when you see benefit delays and system overloads.

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That explains why the system was so overwhelmed in 2020!

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Exactly. The volume of claims was unlike anything the system was designed to handle.

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MY COMPANY LAID ME OFF AND NOW I FIND OUT THEY'VE BEEN PAYING INTO THIS SYSTEM THE WHOLE TIME? Why didn't anyone tell me this stuff when I got hired??

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Most people don't think about unemployment insurance until they need it. It's just part of the cost of doing business for employers.

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still would have been nice to know. makes me feel less guilty about collecting benefits

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The federal government also funds job training programs and reemployment services through additional employer taxes. It's all connected.

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Are those the WorkSource services that Washington ESD keeps telling me about?

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Yes, WorkSource Washington is partially funded through those federal programs.

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thanks for all this info everyone. i had no idea how complex the funding was. makes me appreciate that the system exists even if it's frustrating to deal with sometimes

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Same here! This thread has been really educational.

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One more thing - employers also pay into a separate fund for disability insurance and family leave in Washington. That's probably what some people are thinking of when they see payroll deductions.

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That must be what I was thinking of earlier. Thanks for clearing that up!

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Does anyone know if self-employed people can pay into the system? I'm thinking about freelancing but want to make sure I'd have some protection.

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Washington has been working on self-employment coverage but it's not fully implemented yet. You'd need to check with Washington ESD for current options.

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I'll look into that. Probably another thing I'd need to call about if I can ever get through.

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That's where Claimyr really helps - getting through those impossible phone lines to ask specific questions like that.

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The whole system makes more sense now. It's basically insurance that employers pay for on behalf of their workers, with some federal backup funding when needed.

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Exactly! And it makes me feel better about using it knowing employers have been paying in all along.

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wish they explained this stuff better on the washington esd website. took reading this whole thread to finally understand it

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Government websites are notoriously bad at explaining things in plain language. They assume everyone already knows the basics.

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Great discussion everyone. I feel like I actually understand where my benefits are coming from now. Thanks for taking the time to explain it all!

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Agreed! This has been super helpful. Makes me feel more confident about navigating the whole unemployment system.

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Knowledge is power, especially when dealing with bureaucracy like Washington ESD.

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