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Do taxpayers pay for unemployment benefits in Washington state?

I've been on unemployment for about 6 weeks now and my neighbor made some comment about how 'taxpayers are footing the bill' for my benefits. This got me thinking - are unemployment benefits really paid by taxpayers? I always thought it came from the taxes that employers pay, not regular income taxes. Can someone clarify how Washington ESD unemployment benefits are actually funded? I'm feeling a bit guilty now and want to understand where the money comes from.

Your neighbor is wrong. Unemployment benefits in Washington are funded through employer payroll taxes, not general taxpayer funds. Employers pay both state and federal unemployment taxes based on their payroll. It's called SUTA (State Unemployment Tax Act) and FUTA (Federal Unemployment Tax Act). So technically, it's not coming out of your income taxes or your neighbor's income taxes.

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That's such a relief to hear! I was starting to feel really bad about collecting benefits. So employers basically pay into this system to cover their employees if they get laid off?

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Exactly. It's like an insurance system that employers pay into. The more claims a company has, the higher their tax rate can go. It incentivizes employers to avoid layoffs when possible.

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The funding system is actually more complex than just employer taxes. While employers do pay the majority through SUTA taxes, there are some general fund contributions during high unemployment periods. Washington ESD also gets federal funding for administration costs. But you're right that it's not directly from individual taxpayers in the traditional sense.

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Wait, so some of it does come from taxpayers? I'm confused now. Which part comes from general funds?

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Only during extended benefit periods or when the trust fund runs low. The regular UI benefits you're receiving are from employer contributions. General funds might kick in for things like extended benefits during recessions.

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Thanks for the tip! I might need that if I have more questions about my claim. The phone lines are always busy when I try to call.

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Never heard of Claimyr before but sounds useful. The Washington ESD phone system is absolutely terrible to navigate.

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your neighbor sounds like one of those people who thinks unemployment is welfare. its literally insurance that your employer paid for. you earned those benefits by working. don't feel guilty about using something you're entitled to

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Yeah, I think you're right. It's frustrating when people don't understand how the system actually works before making comments.

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The Washington Employment Security Department has a good explanation of this on their website. Unemployment insurance is funded through taxes on employers, not employees. The tax rate varies by industry and the employer's experience with layoffs. Construction companies typically pay higher rates than office jobs, for example, because layoffs are more common in construction.

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That makes sense why some industries have higher rates. My husband works construction and he's been laid off multiple times over the years.

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Exactly. The system is designed to be self-sustaining through employer contributions. Companies that use the system more pay more into it.

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I used to work in HR and can confirm this. We paid quarterly unemployment taxes for all our employees. It was a significant expense for the company, especially during years when we had to do layoffs. But that's the point - it's pre-funded insurance for situations exactly like unemployment.

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How much do employers typically pay? Is it a lot?

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It varies, but it can be several thousand dollars per year per employee depending on the company's claim history and industry. Not cheap, but it's part of the cost of doing business.

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Just want to add that even if some taxpayer money was involved (which it mostly isn't for regular UI), unemployment benefits help stabilize the economy. People on unemployment spend that money on necessities, which keeps businesses running and people employed. It's not just charity - it's economic policy.

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That's a good point. I never thought about the economic impact like that.

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The trust fund that pays unemployment benefits is built up over time through employer contributions. During good economic times, more money goes in than comes out. During recessions, more goes out than comes in. It's designed to balance over economic cycles.

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What happens if the trust fund runs out completely?

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The state can borrow from the federal government to keep paying benefits, then repay when the economy recovers. This happened during the 2008 recession and again during COVID.

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Don't let anyone make you feel bad about collecting unemployment. You worked and your employer paid into the system specifically to provide this safety net. It's not welfare or charity - it's an earned benefit.

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Thank you. I needed to hear that. Sometimes people make you feel like you're doing something wrong when you're just trying to get by.

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I was wondering about this too when I first filed. The Washington ESD website has a section explaining the funding, but it's buried in their FAQ section. Basically, it's all employer-funded through payroll taxes. Your neighbor is misinformed.

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Where exactly on the website? I looked but couldn't find the funding explanation.

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It's under 'About ESD' then 'How Unemployment Insurance Works' I think. The navigation isn't great on their site.

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I tried calling Washington ESD last month to ask about this exact question and couldn't get through. Finally used that Claimyr service someone mentioned earlier and got connected to an agent who explained the whole system. Worth it if you have detailed questions about how your benefits are funded.

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Good to know there's a way to actually talk to someone. The automated system is so frustrating.

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Another way to think about it - if unemployment was paid by taxpayers, wouldn't it be administered by the tax department instead of the Employment Security Department? The fact that it's handled by ESD shows it's employment-related insurance, not a tax-funded program.

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That's actually a really good point. Never thought about which department handles it as a clue to funding.

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I've been on both unemployment and food stamps at different times. The difference in how you apply and who administers them shows they're funded differently. DSHS handles food stamps (taxpayer funded), while ESD handles unemployment (employer funded).

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That comparison really helps clarify things. Two different systems with different funding sources.

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Just to put this to rest - unemployment insurance is funded by employer payroll taxes, period. It's not welfare, it's not taxpayer funded (except in extraordinary circumstances), and you shouldn't feel guilty about using benefits you're entitled to. Tell your neighbor to educate themselves before making comments.

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Thanks everyone for all the clarification. I feel much better about my situation now and have a good explanation if my neighbor brings it up again.

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Some people just like to make others feel bad about getting help. Ignore them and focus on finding your next job.

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Fun fact: the unemployment insurance system was created during the Great Depression as part of the Social Security Act. It was always designed to be employer-funded, not taxpayer-funded. It's been working this way for almost 90 years.

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Interesting history! Shows this isn't some new program but a long-established part of our economic system.

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I work in payroll and can confirm we pay unemployment taxes on every employee every quarter. It's automatic - not optional. So yes, your benefits are definitely pre-funded by employer contributions, not current taxpayer money.

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It's reassuring to hear from people who actually work in the system. Makes me feel confident about the information.

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The only time general taxpayer funds might be involved is during extended benefit periods or if the trust fund gets so depleted that federal loans are needed. But your regular weekly benefit amount? That's all from employer contributions to the unemployment insurance system.

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Got it. So for my regular weekly claims, it's employer-funded. Thanks for making that distinction clear.

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Had similar questions about funding when I was collecting benefits after my plant closed down. Used Claimyr to finally get through to Washington ESD and the agent was very clear - regular UI benefits come from employer taxes, not individual taxpayer funds. Don't let people make you feel bad about collecting what you're entitled to.

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Thank you. It's good to know there are ways to get official answers when you have questions like this.

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Bottom line: unemployment insurance is exactly that - insurance. Your employer paid premiums (taxes) to cover you in case you lost your job. Just like health insurance or car insurance, you're using benefits that were pre-paid. Nothing to feel guilty about at all.

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That insurance analogy really puts it in perspective. Thank you everyone for helping me understand this better!

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Your neighbor is completely wrong and spreading misinformation. Unemployment benefits in Washington state are funded entirely through employer payroll taxes (SUTA - State Unemployment Tax Act), not through individual taxpayer funds. Every employer pays quarterly unemployment taxes based on their payroll and claim history. This money goes into a trust fund that pays out benefits to eligible workers. You earned these benefits through your work history, and your employer already paid the premiums for this insurance. Don't let anyone make you feel guilty for using a benefit system that was specifically designed to help workers like you during temporary unemployment periods.

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