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Liam Mendez

Do taxes pay for unemployment benefits in Washington - confused about funding

I'm totally confused about how unemployment benefits work in Washington state. My coworker said our taxes pay for unemployment benefits but I thought employers paid into the system? I've been getting UI benefits for 6 weeks now and wondering if I'm going to owe money back at tax time or if this comes from taxes I already paid? Can someone explain how Washington ESD gets the money to pay us?

It's actually both but mostly employer-funded. In Washington, employers pay unemployment taxes (SUTA - State Unemployment Tax Act) based on their payroll. There's also a small federal tax component (FUTA). You as an employee don't directly pay into the UI system through payroll deductions, but your benefits are taxable income.

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So I don't owe anything back to Washington ESD? Just regular income tax on what I received?

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Correct, you don't owe Washington ESD anything back (unless there's an overpayment issue). But yes, you'll get a 1099-G form and need to report the UI benefits as income on your tax return.

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wait so employers pay for unemployment insurance and we dont pay anything into it??? that doesnt sound right

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That's correct for Washington state. Employees don't pay UI taxes here. Some states do have employee contributions but Washington is employer-funded only.

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wow i had no idea. so basically my old job is paying for my unemployment right now?

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Not exactly your specific job, but all employers in Washington pay into a pooled system that funds everyone's benefits. It's like insurance - everyone pays in so benefits are available when needed.

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Never heard of this but might be useful. I've been trying to reach Washington ESD about my adjudication status for weeks.

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To break it down simply: Washington employers pay quarterly unemployment taxes to Washington ESD based on their total wages paid and their experience rating (how many former employees have filed claims). This creates the fund that pays out UI benefits. The federal government also collects FUTA taxes from employers to fund the administrative costs of the program.

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What's an experience rating? My boss mentioned this when I got laid off but I didn't understand.

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Experience rating is basically how Washington ESD determines your employer's tax rate. Companies with more layoffs and UI claims pay higher rates. It incentivizes employers to maintain stable employment.

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Ava Kim

This explains why my manager was so weird about me filing for unemployment. He kept asking if I was sure I wanted to file.

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I'm still confused about the tax part though. Do I need to save money from my weekly benefits to pay taxes later?

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You can have federal taxes withheld from your UI benefits if you want. When you file your weekly claim, there's an option to have 10% withheld for federal taxes. Washington state has no income tax so no state withholding needed.

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Oh I didn't know I could do that! I've been filing weekly claims for 6 weeks without any withholding.

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Same here! Can I change this retroactively or just going forward?

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You can only change it going forward. For past weeks, you'll need to set aside money for taxes or adjust your withholding at your next job.

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Ava Kim

The whole system is basically employer-funded insurance. Think of it like workers comp - employers buy insurance to protect against having to pay unemployment costs directly. Washington ESD collects these 'premiums' and pays out benefits when people qualify.

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that actually makes sense when you put it that way

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Except it's not optional insurance - employers have to participate by law.

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Does this mean my unemployment benefits affect my former employer directly? Like do they get a bill?

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Not directly, but your claim can affect their future tax rates. Washington ESD tracks claims against each employer for their experience rating calculation. More claims generally mean higher future tax rates for that employer.

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Is that why some employers contest unemployment claims?

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Yes, exactly. If they successfully contest your claim and you're found ineligible, it won't count against their experience rating.

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This has been really helpful! So to summarize: employers fund the system through taxes, I don't pay into it directly, but my benefits are taxable income. And I won't owe Washington ESD anything unless there's an overpayment issue.

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Perfect summary! Just remember to report the income on your tax return next year.

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And consider having taxes withheld from future weekly benefits if you're concerned about owing at tax time.

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Question - if employers pay for this, why do some companies try to make filing for unemployment so difficult? My HR department was super unhelpful when I got laid off.

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Ava Kim

Because every claim potentially increases their future tax costs. Some companies try to discourage filing or contest claims to keep their experience rating low.

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That seems unfair if it's supposed to be insurance for employees.

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It is unfair, but it's legal. That's why Washington ESD has protections against employer retaliation for filing legitimate claims.

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I work in HR and can confirm - we pay quarterly unemployment taxes to Washington ESD. The rate varies by industry and our claims history. It's a significant expense for employers, which is why some try to minimize claims.

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Thanks for the insider perspective! Do you know roughly what percentage of payroll goes to unemployment taxes?

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It varies widely based on experience rating, but typically ranges from 0.1% to 6% of taxable wages in Washington. New employers start at a standard rate around 2.7%.

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this is all making me feel better about collecting benefits. i was worried i was taking money from taxpayers but its actually paid for by employers as part of the cost of doing business

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Exactly! You earned these benefits through your work history. Don't feel guilty about using a system that exists specifically to help workers between jobs.

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One thing to add - while regular UI benefits are employer-funded, during the pandemic there were federal programs like PUA and PEUC that were taxpayer-funded. But those ended in 2021, so current Washington ESD benefits are back to the normal employer-funded system.

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Good to know! I was wondering if pandemic changes were still in effect.

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Nope, we're back to the pre-pandemic system. Much simpler funding structure now.

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The funding structure also explains why Washington ESD is so strict about eligibility requirements and job search activities. They're managing a finite pool of employer-contributed funds, so they need to ensure benefits go only to eligible claimants.

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That makes sense. I was wondering why the job search requirements were so detailed.

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Right - they need to balance supporting unemployed workers with maintaining the integrity of the employer-funded system.

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Thanks everyone! This thread really cleared up my confusion. I feel much better about collecting benefits knowing it's not coming out of general tax revenue but from a system employers pay into specifically for this purpose.

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Glad we could help! The funding structure can be confusing but it's important to understand.

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Same here - I was stressed about the tax implications but now I understand how it all works.

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One last tip - if you're working part-time while collecting UI, make sure you understand how earnings affect your benefits. Washington ESD has specific rules about what you can earn before benefits are reduced.

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Good point! I've been wondering about taking some gig work but wasn't sure how it would affect my claim.

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You can usually earn up to your weekly benefit amount before seeing reductions, but report all earnings when you file your weekly claim.

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This has been super educational. I'm sharing this thread with my friend who just filed for unemployment and was worried about the same tax questions.

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Great idea to share! These funding questions come up a lot and there's a lot of misinformation out there.

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Final thought - while employees don't directly pay into the system, indirectly we all contribute through the economic ecosystem. Employers factor these costs into their overall compensation decisions. But the direct funding is definitely employer-based.

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Ava Kim

Interesting economic perspective! Never thought about it that way.

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It's all interconnected, but for practical purposes, workers don't need to worry about 'paying back' the system beyond normal income taxes on benefits received.

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This thread should be pinned somewhere. So many people have these same questions about how unemployment is funded and what the tax implications are.

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Agreed! Would have saved me weeks of worry if I'd found this information sooner.

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T R

So, If I am a contractor with a company from a different state do they pay into SUTA?

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No, contractors typically don't have unemployment taxes paid on their behalf. SUTA (State Unemployment Tax Act) is only paid by employers for their W-2 employees. As a contractor, you're considered self-employed, so the company you work for doesn't pay unemployment taxes to any state for your services - whether they're in Washington or another state. This means you generally wouldn't be eligible for traditional unemployment benefits. However, during the pandemic there was PUA (Pandemic Unemployment Assistance) for contractors and gig workers, but that program ended in 2021.

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That's a really important distinction! So many people don't realize that contractor status affects unemployment eligibility. @47cadd29bd78 if you're classified as a 1099 contractor, you'd need to look into other options during unemployment periods - maybe forming an LLC and paying into the system as a business owner in some states, or having an emergency fund since traditional UI isn't available.

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