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Jessica Suarez

Who pays into unemployment benefits - Washington ESD question about funding

I've been unemployed for two months and finally getting UI benefits from Washington ESD. My coworker said something about how unemployment is funded and now I'm curious - who actually pays into the unemployment system? Is it coming out of my paychecks when I was working, or does my employer pay for it? I never really thought about where the money comes from until now that I need it.

Great question! In Washington state, unemployment benefits are funded entirely by employers - nothing comes out of your paycheck for unemployment insurance. Employers pay both state unemployment taxes (SUTA) to Washington ESD and federal unemployment taxes (FUTA). The tax rates vary based on the employer's experience rating and industry.

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So I never paid anything into it while working? That's actually kind of a relief to know.

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yeah exactly, its not like social security where you see it on your paystub

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Your employer pays quarterly unemployment taxes to Washington ESD based on their payroll. The rate depends on how many former employees have filed claims - companies with more layoffs pay higher rates. It's called an 'experience rating' system.

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That makes sense why some employers fight unemployment claims so hard - it affects their tax rate.

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Exactly right. Every approved claim can potentially increase their future tax burden.

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wait so if employers pay for it why do they sometimes contest claims? seems like they already paid the tax anyway

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Because their future tax rates are based on how many claims get approved against them. More claims = higher taxes next year.

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ohhhh that makes way more sense now

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This is why when you quit voluntarily you usually can't get unemployment - the employer didn't choose to let you go so they shouldn't have to pay higher taxes for it. The system is designed to help people who lose jobs through no fault of their own.

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What about if you quit for good cause though? Like harassment or unsafe conditions?

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Good cause quits can qualify for benefits, but you have to prove it during the adjudication process. Washington ESD investigates those cases pretty thoroughly.

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I went through that process last year - took forever but they approved my claim after my employer created a hostile work environment.

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The funding structure is actually pretty complicated. There are different tax rates for different industries, and new employers pay a standard rate until they build up an experience rating. Construction companies often pay higher rates because that industry has more seasonal layoffs.

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Nonprofit organizations can choose to be 'reimbursing employers' instead of paying taxes - they pay back the actual benefit amounts for their former employees.

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Right, and government agencies work the same way. They don't pay into the trust fund, they reimburse for actual claims.

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I'm still confused about something - if my employer pays the taxes, why did Washington ESD ask me about my wages and work history? Shouldn't they already have that information?

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They get wage reports from employers quarterly, but they need to verify your information and make sure you meet the eligibility requirements. Sometimes there are discrepancies or missing wages.

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Ah okay, so it's like a double-check system.

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Does anyone know if the tax rates have changed recently? I remember reading something about Washington ESD adjusting rates because of all the pandemic claims, but I'm not sure if that's still affecting things.

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The trust fund did get depleted during COVID, so there were some rate adjustments. But those were mostly temporary surcharges that have been phased out as the fund recovered.

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My company's HR mentioned something about this in a meeting. They said their unemployment tax bill went up significantly in 2022 and 2023.

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From an employer perspective, we really do pay attention to our experience rating. We've had to contest a few claims over the years when former employees were terminated for misconduct. It's not personal - it's just protecting our tax rate.

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That's fair, but I've seen employers contest legitimate claims just to try to save money.

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Unfortunately some do abuse the system that way. But most of us only contest when there's a genuine issue with eligibility.

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This whole thread is really helpful! I never understood why my old boss seemed so stressed about layoffs. Now I get that it wasn't just about losing good employees - there's a financial impact too.

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Exactly. It's one reason why employers sometimes offer voluntary separation packages instead of doing layoffs.

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Makes total sense now.

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How does that work exactly? Do they just call on your behalf?

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Yeah, you give them your info and they handle the calling and waiting. When they get through to Washington ESD, they connect you directly to the agent.

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One thing people don't realize is that federal unemployment taxes (FUTA) are separate from state taxes. Employers pay both, but the federal tax helps fund the administrative costs and provides emergency funding during recessions.

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Good point. FUTA also funds programs like extended benefits during high unemployment periods.

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So there are multiple layers of funding - that explains why the system is so complex.

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my company laid off 50 people last year and our HR said their unemployment tax bill is going to be brutal next year. i feel bad for them but also glad the system exists for people who need it

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Mass layoffs definitely impact an employer's experience rating significantly. But that's how the system is designed to work.

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yeah i get it, just sucks all around when businesses struggle

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I work in payroll and can confirm - we pay unemployment taxes every quarter to Washington ESD. The rates change annually based on our claims history. It's actually a pretty significant expense for companies with high turnover.

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Thanks for the insider perspective! Good to know it comes from employers and not my paychecks.

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Do you know if there's a cap on how much employers have to pay per employee?

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Yes, there's a wage base limit. In 2025 it's around $70,000 per employee, so they only pay taxes on the first $70k of each person's wages.

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This thread answered so many questions I didn't even know I had! The funding system makes way more sense now. Thanks everyone for explaining it so clearly.

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Happy to help! Understanding how unemployment insurance works helps everyone navigate the system better.

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Great discussion! One more thing to add - the unemployment insurance system is entirely separate from workers' compensation. UI covers job loss, workers' comp covers workplace injuries. Both are paid by employers but they're completely different programs.

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Good clarification! I was wondering about that distinction.

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And neither one comes out of employee paychecks in Washington state, which is nice.

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Thanks for starting this thread! I learned a lot about how the whole system works. It's actually pretty fair when you understand that employers pay in and get rated based on how many claims they generate.

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Agreed! I feel much better about collecting benefits now that I understand it's not coming from some general tax fund.

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