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Jamal Washington

Who is responsible for paying unemployment benefits in Washington?

I'm really confused about how unemployment actually gets funded. My coworker says our employer pays for it directly when we get laid off, but my sister thinks it comes from taxes we pay. I just got approved for Washington ESD benefits after being let go from my retail job and I'm curious - who is actually responsible for paying these unemployment benefits? Is it the government, my former employer, or does it come from somewhere else?

Mei Wong

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Your employer pays unemployment insurance taxes to Washington ESD throughout the year - it's called SUTA (State Unemployment Tax Act). So technically your former employer already paid into the system that's now paying your benefits. It's not like they write a check directly for your claim though.

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Oh that makes sense! So they've been paying into it all along, not just when I got laid off. Thanks for clarifying.

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Wait, do we as employees pay anything into unemployment insurance? I thought I saw SUTA deductions on my old paystubs.

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PixelWarrior

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Actually in Washington state, only employers pay unemployment insurance premiums. Employees don't contribute anything from their paychecks. The rate employers pay depends on their industry and their history of layoffs - companies that lay off more people pay higher rates.

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Good to know! I must have been looking at a different deduction on my paystub then.

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Amara Adebayo

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This is why some employers fight unemployment claims so hard - it can affect their future tax rates with Washington ESD.

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Yeah, got through to someone at Washington ESD within like 20 minutes instead of calling for days. Worth it when you need answers about your benefits.

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Dylan Evans

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So the state of Washington doesn't pay anything? It's all from employer taxes? That seems weird to me.

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Mei Wong

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Washington ESD administers the program but the funding comes from employer premiums. The state might chip in federal funds for extended benefits during recessions, but regular UI is employer-funded.

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Sofia Gomez

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Makes sense when you think about it - employers benefit from being able to lay people off when business is slow, so they should pay for the safety net.

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StormChaser

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This is actually really important to understand because it affects how Washington ESD handles disputes. When an employer contests your claim, they're trying to avoid having their account charged for your benefits, which could raise their future tax rates.

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Oh wow, I didn't realize that's why employers sometimes fight claims. My former boss seemed really concerned when I filed.

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Dmitry Petrov

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Exactly. It's not personal (usually), it's about money. Companies have a financial incentive to contest claims even if the employee was legitimately laid off.

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Ava Williams

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There's also federal unemployment taxes (FUTA) that employers pay, but those go toward administrative costs and federal programs, not your regular weekly benefits in Washington.

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Miguel Castro

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Right, and during COVID there were those federal programs like PUA and PEUC, but those are gone now. Back to just regular state UI.

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Good riddance to those pandemic programs honestly, they were so confusing and created so many overpayment issues.

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I'm still having trouble understanding my Washington ESD account online. The benefit amount seems different than what was explained to me initially.

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PixelWarrior

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Your weekly benefit amount is calculated based on your highest-earning quarter from the past year. Washington ESD has specific formulas they use to determine this.

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LunarEclipse

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Yara Khalil

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My employer told me they don't have to pay anything if I quit instead of getting laid off. Is that true?

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Mei Wong

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That's not exactly how it works. If you quit voluntarily, you generally won't qualify for benefits, so there's no charge to your employer's account. But if you quit for good cause, you might still qualify.

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Keisha Brown

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Be careful about quitting vs being laid off. Washington ESD will investigate and if they find you were pressured to quit instead of being properly laid off, that's still chargeable to the employer.

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Does this mean bigger companies pay more into unemployment insurance than small businesses?

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PixelWarrior

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They pay more in total dollars because they have more employees, but the rate per employee depends on their experience rating - how many claims they've had historically.

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Amina Toure

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Seasonal businesses often have higher rates because they regularly lay people off during slow seasons.

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Oliver Weber

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This whole system seems pretty fair actually. Companies that cause more unemployment pay more to fund the benefits.

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FireflyDreams

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In theory yes, but some employers still try to game the system by fighting legitimate claims or misclassifying employees as contractors.

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That's why Washington ESD has investigators and an appeals process. They try to keep employers honest.

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I had no idea about any of this when I first filed for unemployment. Wish they explained the funding better during the application process.

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Emma Anderson

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Most people don't know how it works until they need it. The important thing is that the money is there when you need benefits.

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Agreed. I was just grateful to get approved for benefits after my layoff. Understanding the funding helped me realize why my employer contested it though.

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So if I work for a nonprofit organization, does my employer still pay unemployment taxes?

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PixelWarrior

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Most nonprofits do pay unemployment insurance taxes like regular employers. There are some exceptions for very small religious organizations, but most nonprofits participate in the system.

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CosmicVoyager

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Some nonprofits can choose to reimburse Washington ESD directly for benefits paid instead of paying ongoing premiums, but you'd still be eligible for benefits either way.

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Ravi Kapoor

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What happens if a company goes out of business? Who pays for unemployment benefits then?

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Mei Wong

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Good question! Washington ESD has reserve funds for situations like this. The company's account gets charged until it's exhausted, then the costs get spread across all employers through the system.

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Freya Nielsen

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This is another reason why the unemployment insurance system is pooled - it protects against situations where individual employers can't pay.

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Omar Mahmoud

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I'm dealing with an overpayment issue right now and Washington ESD wants money back. Still having trouble reaching someone to explain it properly. Might try that Claimyr service someone mentioned earlier.

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Definitely worth trying claimyr.com for overpayment questions. Those are complicated issues that really need to be discussed with an actual Washington ESD representative.

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Chloe Harris

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Overpayments can often be appealed if there was an error in the original determination. Make sure you understand why they say you were overpaid before agreeing to pay anything back.

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Diego Vargas

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Thanks everyone for explaining this! I feel much better understanding that my benefits are coming from insurance my employer already paid for, not like I'm taking charity or anything.

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NeonNinja

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Exactly! You earned those benefits through your work history. It's insurance that was paid on your behalf.

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Don't feel bad about collecting unemployment when you're eligible. That's exactly what the system was designed for.

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