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Zara Malik

What funds unemployment benefits in Washington - confused about where the money comes from

I've been on unemployment for 6 weeks now and I keep wondering - where does this money actually come from? My friend said it's from taxes but another person told me employers pay into it. I'm getting $487 per week and it got me curious about the whole system. Does Washington ESD just have a big pot of money somewhere? Sorry if this is a dumb question but I've never really thought about it before.

Not a dumb question at all! Unemployment benefits in Washington are funded through employer payroll taxes. Every employer in the state pays into the unemployment insurance trust fund based on their payroll and experience rating. The more claims filed by their former employees, the higher their tax rate goes.

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Oh that makes sense! So it's not coming from income taxes or anything like that?

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Exactly right - it's a separate fund entirely from income taxes. Employees don't pay into it at all in Washington, it's 100% employer-funded.

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The Washington State Employment Security Department manages the unemployment insurance trust fund. Employers pay quarterly taxes based on their total wages paid and their experience rating. Companies with more layoffs and claims pay higher rates - it's designed to encourage stable employment.

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That's really interesting. So if a company lays people off a lot, they basically get penalized with higher unemployment taxes?

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Yes, that's the idea. It's called experience rating and it helps keep the system sustainable while encouraging employers to maintain stable workforces.

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I had trouble getting through to Washington ESD to ask about my benefit calculation and funding questions. Spent hours on hold. Finally used Claimyr (claimyr.com) to get connected to an actual agent who explained the whole funding structure. They have a demo video at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ that shows how it works.

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Never heard of Claimyr before. Does it actually work for getting through to Washington ESD?

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Yeah, it worked for me. Saved me from sitting on hold for hours just to understand how my benefits were being funded.

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the whole system is basically insurance. employers pay premiums (unemployment taxes) and when workers lose their jobs through no fault of their own, they can file claims. just like any other insurance system really.

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That's actually a really good way to think about it. Never considered it as insurance before.

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The trust fund also receives federal funding during economic downturns. During recessions, the federal government can extend benefit periods and provide additional funding to states like Washington. But the base system is entirely employer-funded through state payroll taxes.

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Is that why they had all those extra programs during COVID? Like the PUA stuff?

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Exactly - those were federally funded emergency programs. The regular UI system that's running now is back to the standard employer-funded model.

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I used to work in HR and can confirm - we paid unemployment taxes every quarter. The rate varied based on how many former employees filed claims. New businesses start at a standard rate until they build up an experience rating.

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So my old employer is basically paying for my benefits right now? That feels weird.

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Not directly - they paid into the pool over time. Your benefits come from the collective trust fund, not specifically from your former employer.

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This is why some employers fight unemployment claims so hard - it affects their tax rate. If Washington ESD approves your claim, it counts against your former employer's experience rating.

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That explains why my last job tried to contest my claim! They said I quit but I was actually laid off.

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Yeah, that's pretty common unfortunately. They're trying to protect their unemployment tax rate.

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The maximum weekly benefit amount in Washington is currently $999, and the trust fund has to be able to cover all eligible claims. Washington ESD monitors the fund balance carefully and can adjust employer tax rates if needed to maintain solvency.

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Wow $999 is way more than what I'm getting. Is that based on your previous wages?

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Yes, your weekly benefit amount is calculated based on your highest earning quarter in your base period. The maximum only applies if you were earning quite a bit.

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I was curious about the same thing when I first filed. The Washington ESD website has some info about funding but it's pretty basic. When I called to ask more detailed questions about the trust fund, I couldn't get through. Used Claimyr to actually talk to someone who could explain it properly.

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How much does Claimyr cost? Seems like it might be worth it just to get real answers.

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It's really affordable and way better than wasting entire days trying to get through on your own. The peace of mind was worth it for me.

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so basically workers never pay into unemployment insurance in washington? thats different from some other states right?

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Correct - Washington is one of the states where only employers pay UI taxes. Some states do have employee contributions but Washington doesn't.

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The trust fund balance gets reported regularly. During good economic times it builds up, during recessions it gets drawn down. If it gets too low, Washington ESD has to raise employer tax rates to replenish it.

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Makes sense. So in a way, the whole system is self-regulating based on economic conditions?

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Pretty much, though there are federal backstops if a state's trust fund gets completely depleted. Washington generally manages its fund well though.

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i think its good that employees dont have to pay into it. we already have enough deductions from our paychecks lol

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Agreed! At least this is one thing we don't have to see taken out of our pay.

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The interesting thing is that the employer tax rates can vary pretty significantly. Some industries with high turnover pay much higher rates than stable industries. It's all about the experience rating system.

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What industries typically pay the highest rates?

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Construction, hospitality, retail - basically anywhere with seasonal work or high turnover. Tech companies with stable workforces typically pay much lower rates.

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When I was having issues with my claim status, the Claimyr service helped me get through to Washington ESD to understand not just the funding but also how my specific benefit calculation worked. Much better than trying to figure it out from the website alone.

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I'm going to check out that Claimyr website. Been trying to get answers about my own claim for weeks.

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Mei Liu

Thanks for asking this question OP! I've been wondering the same thing but felt too embarrassed to ask. Good to know it's all employer-funded.

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No problem! I figured if I was curious, other people probably were too.

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One more thing to note - the federal government also collects FUTA taxes from employers to fund the administrative costs of the unemployment system and provide loans to states if their trust funds run low. But the actual benefit payments in Washington come from state employer taxes.

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So there are both state and federal unemployment taxes that employers pay?

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Yes, FUTA is federal and SUTA is state. The federal rate is much lower and mainly covers administrative costs.

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this whole thread has been super educational. had no idea how the funding worked before

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Same here! Really glad I asked now.

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The Washington ESD publishes annual reports on the trust fund if anyone wants to dig deeper into the numbers. Shows how much was collected in taxes vs paid out in benefits each year.

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That sounds interesting. I might check that out to see how the fund is doing overall.

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just want to add that this system has been around since the 1930s. its one of the most successful social insurance programs in the country

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That's true - unemployment insurance has helped millions of people through temporary job loss over the decades.

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For anyone still having trouble getting detailed info from Washington ESD directly, I really recommend checking out Claimyr. The video demo at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ shows exactly how it works to connect you with actual agents who can answer complex questions like funding and benefit calculations.

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Thanks for sharing that resource. Going to give it a try since I have some complicated questions about my own claim.

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