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Where do unemployment checks come from - Washington ESD funding source?

I've been getting my weekly unemployment payments for about 6 weeks now and I'm curious about something. Where exactly does the money for unemployment checks come from? Is it tax money or something else? My friend said it comes from employers but I thought it was from the government. Does Washington ESD get the money from federal taxes or state taxes? Just wondering how the whole system works since I've never really thought about it before.

Unemployment benefits are funded through employer payroll taxes, not your income taxes. Employers pay into the unemployment insurance system based on their payroll and their experience rating (how many former employees have filed claims). The money goes into a state trust fund that Washington ESD manages.

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So it's not coming out of my tax money at all? That makes me feel a bit better about collecting it.

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Right, you didn't pay into it directly but your employer did on your behalf. It's basically insurance for unemployment.

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There are actually two main sources. Most regular UI benefits come from state unemployment insurance taxes that employers pay. But during recessions or high unemployment periods, the federal government can provide extended benefits through programs funded by federal taxes. Washington state also has its own reserve fund.

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Are we in one of those extended periods now? I'm getting regular benefits but wondering if there are extra programs available.

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Currently we're on regular state benefits. Extended federal programs usually kick in when unemployment rates hit certain triggers, but those aren't active right now in Washington.

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I had no idea about this either until I started having problems reaching Washington ESD to ask questions about my claim. Spent weeks trying to call them. Finally used this service called Claimyr (claimyr.com) that helped me get through to an actual agent who explained all this funding stuff to me. They have a demo video at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ that shows how it works.

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How much did that cost? I've been trying to reach them for 2 weeks about my adjudication.

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It was worth it to finally talk to someone who could explain everything. Way better than sitting on hold for hours and getting disconnected.

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the employer tax rate depends on how many ppl they laid off in the past. companies that lay off lots of workers pay higher rates. its like car insurance - bad drivers pay more

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Exactly, that's the experience rating system. It incentivizes employers to avoid layoffs when possible since it affects their future tax rates.

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I work in HR and can confirm this. We pay SUTA (State Unemployment Tax Act) taxes quarterly based on our payroll. New employers start at a standard rate but it adjusts based on claims history. Companies with stable employment pay less than those with frequent layoffs.

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That's interesting. So my old company is basically paying for my unemployment? Do they know when I file claims?

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They get notified when you file and can contest it if they think you weren't eligible. But they don't see your payment amounts or personal details.

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wait so if I get fired can my employer stop me from getting unemployment??

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They can contest your claim if they believe you were terminated for misconduct or quit voluntarily, but being fired for performance issues or layoffs usually qualifies you for benefits. Washington ESD makes the final determination after investigating both sides.

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ok good because I was worried about that. got let go last month for 'performance' but really they just wanted to cut costs

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This is all good info but doesn't help when you can't even reach Washington ESD to file your weekly claims or check your status! I've been calling for days with no luck.

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That's exactly why I ended up using Claimyr. The regular phone system is impossible. They can get you through to an actual person who can help with claim issues.

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I tried calling at 7:59 AM right before they open and still couldn't get through. Will have to check out that service.

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The funding also varies by state. Some states have built up larger reserve funds than others. Washington generally has a pretty well-funded system compared to states that had to borrow from the federal government during the pandemic.

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Does that mean our benefits are more secure than other states?

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Generally yes, though benefit amounts and duration are set by state law regardless of funding levels. Washington's maximum weekly benefit is currently $1015.

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My dad always told me unemployment was welfare but I guess he was wrong? It sounds more like insurance that employers pay for.

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It's definitely insurance, not welfare. You have to have worked and earned enough wages to qualify, and your benefit amount is based on your previous earnings.

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Yeah, there are work requirements and you have to be actively searching for jobs. It's temporary income replacement, not a handout.

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Wait so if employers are paying for this why do they always seem to fight unemployment claims? Seems counterproductive.

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Because approved claims increase their future tax rates. It's cheaper for them to contest questionable claims than to pay higher taxes for years.

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also some employers just dont want to deal with the paperwork and hope ppl give up

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This thread is really helpful! I had no idea about the employer tax system. Makes me feel less guilty about collecting benefits knowing it's not coming from taxpayers directly.

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You shouldn't feel guilty anyway - you earned those benefits through your work history. It's there for exactly this purpose.

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Still frustrated with the phone system though. How is anyone supposed to get help when you can't reach them? Been trying to resolve an issue with my weekly claim for over a week.

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Have you tried the online messaging system? Sometimes that works better than calling.

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Yeah I sent two messages last week and haven't heard back. The Claimyr thing mentioned earlier might be my only option.

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The federal government also provides administrative funding to help states run their unemployment programs. So while the benefits come from employer taxes, the cost of running Washington ESD offices and systems is partially federally funded.

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That explains why the systems seem so outdated - probably limited funding for upgrades.

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I looked into the Claimyr service mentioned earlier and it actually worked! Got through to Washington ESD in like 10 minutes instead of spending all day calling. The agent explained my adjudication issue and it should be resolved soon.

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Really? I'm definitely going to try that then. What kind of questions were you able to ask?

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Everything - claim status, why my payment was delayed, what documents they needed. Much better than the automated system.

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thanks for all this info everyone. been wondering about this since I started collecting in January. good to know its not welfare like some people think

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Same here. My parents generation seems to have a lot of misconceptions about unemployment benefits.

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One more thing to add - the amount you receive is based on your highest earning quarter from the past year, up to the state maximum. So if you made more money, you get higher benefits (within limits). It's proportional to what you earned while working.

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That makes sense. I was making pretty good money so my weekly amount is helping cover most of my bills.

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Wish I had known this when I was working part time jobs. Probably would have qualified for more if I had worked more hours.

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Does anyone know if there are different pots of money for different types of claims? Like standby vs regular unemployment?

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Standby benefits come from the same state trust fund as regular UI. The funding source doesn't change, just the eligibility requirements and how long you can collect.

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This has been super educational. I work for a small business and now I understand why our accountant is always talking about unemployment tax rates. Makes sense why they're careful about hiring and firing decisions.

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Exactly. Smart employers factor in potential unemployment costs when making staffing decisions. It's a real business expense that affects their bottom line.

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Glad this thread helped so many people understand the system better. The agent I spoke with through Claimyr also explained how job search requirements work and what counts as valid job contacts. Really helpful to get accurate info directly from Washington ESD.

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I'm definitely going to use that service. Sounds like they can answer all the questions I have about my claim.

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Bottom line is you earned these benefits through your work. Don't let anyone make you feel bad about collecting unemployment when you need it. The system exists for exactly this purpose.

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Thanks for saying that. Sometimes you do feel judged but you're right - we paid into this system indirectly through our employers.

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Agree completely. It's insurance, not charity.

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This thread has been really eye-opening! I've been collecting benefits for about 2 months and honestly felt kind of ashamed about it, especially when people make comments about "living off the government." Now I understand it's actually an insurance system that my previous employers paid into on my behalf. It makes me feel much more confident about using these benefits while I job search. Thanks to everyone who explained how the employer tax system works - I had no idea that companies with more layoffs pay higher rates. That's actually a pretty smart way to incentivize stable employment.

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