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What would make you ineligible for unemployment in Washington state?

I'm thinking about leaving my job soon but want to make sure I won't mess up my chances for unemployment benefits. What are the main things that would make someone ineligible for Washington ESD unemployment? I've heard there are certain reasons you can't quit and still get benefits, but I'm not sure what they are. Also wondering about work history requirements and if there are other disqualifying factors I should know about before making any decisions.

The main categories for ineligibility are: 1) Quitting without good cause 2) Being fired for misconduct 3) Not meeting work/wage requirements 4) Refusing suitable work 5) Not actively seeking work. For quitting, you need 'good cause' like unsafe conditions, harassment, or significant changes to your job. Just being unhappy usually doesn't qualify.

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What counts as 'good cause' exactly? My boss has been pretty difficult lately but I'm not sure if that's enough.

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Good cause is pretty specific - documented harassment, unsafe working conditions, substantial reduction in hours/pay, or constructive discharge situations. Just having a difficult boss typically won't qualify unless it rises to harassment or creates hostile work environment.

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You also need to have worked enough to meet the base period requirements. Washington ESD looks at your wages in the first 4 of the last 5 quarters before you file. You need at least $1,000 in your highest quarter and total wages of at least 1.5 times your highest quarter amount.

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I've been working part-time for about 8 months, probably making around $800/month. Would that be enough?

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That might be cutting it close. $800 x 8 months = $6,400 total, but Washington ESD looks at quarters not months. You'd need at least $1,000 in your highest earning quarter AND total base period wages of at least 1.5x that amount.

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Is that legit? I've been trying to call Washington ESD for days and keep getting hung up on.

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Don't forget about the job search requirements! Even if you qualify initially, you can become ineligible if you don't do your required job search activities. Washington requires 3 job search activities per week and you have to log them.

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What counts as a job search activity? Just applying for jobs?

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Job applications, networking events, career fairs, interviews, creating/updating resumes with professionals, skills assessments. Check WorkSource for the full list.

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The job search thing is what got me in trouble. I thought just browsing job sites counted but you actually have to apply or do something concrete.

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Misconduct is another big one that people don't realize. It's not just getting fired - it has to be willful disregard of your employer's interests. Things like chronic tardiness, insubordination, or violating company policies can count.

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What if you get fired for poor performance but not misconduct?

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Poor performance alone usually doesn't disqualify you unless it's willful. If you were trying but just couldn't meet expectations, that's different from deliberately not doing your job.

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Also be careful about any severance pay or vacation payouts - those can affect when your benefits start. Washington ESD has specific rules about how they treat different types of separation pay.

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My company owes me about 2 weeks of unused vacation time. Would that delay my claim?

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Possibly. Vacation pay can create a waiting period depending on how it's paid out. You'll need to report it when you file your claim.

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Student status can also affect eligibility. If you're enrolled in school, there are restrictions unless you're in approved training or meet certain criteria.

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I'm taking evening classes while working. Would that be a problem?

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Part-time evening classes usually aren't an issue as long as they don't interfere with your ability to work full-time. It's full-time student status that typically causes problems.

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REFUSING SUITABLE WORK is huge too!! If Washington ESD or WorkSource refers you to a job and you turn it down without good reason, you can lose benefits. The definition of 'suitable' changes based on how long you've been unemployed.

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How do they define suitable work? Can I refuse a job that pays way less than what I was making?

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Early in your claim, suitable work is closer to your previous job/wage. After several weeks, the definition expands and you might have to accept lower-paying work in your general skill area.

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Immigration status matters too - you need to be authorized to work in the US. Also, if you're receiving certain other benefits like workers' comp, it can affect your UI eligibility.

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I'm on a work visa. Does that affect anything?

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As long as your work authorization is valid and you meet all other requirements, visa status shouldn't disqualify you. But you'll need to provide documentation.

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I learned about Claimyr when I was trying to get clarification on my disqualification. Their service at claimyr.com actually got me through to someone at Washington ESD who explained exactly why my claim was denied. Sometimes you need that direct conversation to understand the specific rules.

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Did they charge you for that?

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They have different options but honestly it was worth it to finally talk to a real person instead of getting hung up on every time I called.

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Don't forget about the availability requirement! You have to be able and available for work. If you're not physically able to work or have restrictions that make you unavailable, you won't qualify.

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What if you have childcare issues? Does that affect availability?

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Childcare issues can affect availability, but Washington has some provisions for parents. You might still qualify if you're actively seeking work within your available hours.

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Income limits can also disqualify you. IF you're working part-time while collecting benefits, there's a formula for how much you can earn before it affects your weekly benefit amount or makes you ineligible.

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I might pick up some freelance work while job searching. Should I be worried about that?

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You have to report ALL income when you file your weekly claims. There's an earnings deduction formula, but if you earn too much in a week, you won't get benefits for that week.

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Age discrimination is something that gets overlooked - there's no age limit for UI benefits. Whether you're 16 or 66, if you meet the other requirements, age won't disqualify you.

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Good to know! I'm 58 and was worried about that.

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The hardest part is actually getting accurate information from Washington ESD. I spent weeks trying to understand why my claim was taking so long until someone told me about Claimyr. Finally got through and found out there was an issue with my work history that needed clarification.

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How long did it take them to get you connected?

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Criminal background can sometimes affect eligibility depending on the type of conviction and your job field, but it's not an automatic disqualification for most people.

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Really? I thought any criminal record would disqualify you.

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Nope, that's a common misconception. Washington ESD looks at whether you can work and meet the other requirements, not your criminal history in most cases.

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honestly the whole system is confusing and they don't make it easy to understand what disqualifies you until AFTER you've already messed something up. wish they were more upfront about all these rules

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Totally agree! The handbook is like 50 pages of legal jargon.

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This thread has been super helpful though. Way more clear than anything on the Washington ESD website.

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