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Malik Davis

Washington ESD: How long after quitting a job can you apply for unemployment benefits?

I left my job at a restaurant about 6 weeks ago because my manager was cutting my hours down to barely 15 per week and I couldn't afford to live on that. I've been job hunting but nothing has worked out yet. A friend told me I might be able to get unemployment even though I quit, but I'm not sure if there's like a waiting period or if it's too late to apply? I know Washington ESD has rules about quitting but I'm confused about the timing. Can I still file a claim now or should I have done it right when I left the job?

You can file for unemployment benefits in Washington at any time after becoming unemployed, there's no specific waiting period for when you can apply after quitting. However, the key issue is whether you have good cause for leaving. Reduced hours might qualify as good cause if it was a substantial reduction. You should file your claim as soon as possible though because benefits are only paid from the week you file your claim, not retroactively to when you became unemployed.

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That's helpful, thank you! Going from 40 hours to 15 hours was definitely substantial. Should I mention that specifically when I file?

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Yes, absolutely document the hour reduction. Washington ESD will want to see that it was a significant change to your work situation that made continuing employment unreasonable.

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Just so you know the process can take a while especially if you quit. They'll probably put your claim into adjudication to review whether you had good cause. Mine took like 3 weeks to get resolved.

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Oh no, 3 weeks? I'm already behind on rent. Is there anything I can do to speed it up?

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Unfortunately adjudication just takes time. But definitely keep filing your weekly claims even while it's pending - if approved you'll get backpay to your claim start date.

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Wait is this like a paid service? Why would you pay when calling Washington ESD is free?

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Because 'free' doesn't help when you can't actually get through to anyone! I spent hours trying to call normally before finding this option.

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The Washington ESD website says you need to file within a reasonable time after becoming unemployed but they don't give a specific deadline. 6 weeks isn't too long, especially if you were looking for work during that time. Just make sure you have documentation about your hours being cut.

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I do have my old schedules saved on my phone where you can see the hour reduction. Would screenshots of those work?

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Screenshots should be fine, anything that shows the pattern of reduced hours. You might also want pay stubs if you have them showing the income decrease.

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ugh the whole system is so confusing. I quit my job 2 months ago and still haven't figured out if I should even bother applying. seems like they make it impossible on purpose

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It's definitely worth applying if you had good cause for leaving. The worst they can say is no, but you might be surprised. What was your situation?

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hostile work environment, boss was basically harassing me. but proving that seems impossible

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Actually hostile work environment can qualify as good cause! Do you have any emails, texts, or witnesses?

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File ASAP because like others said, you only get benefits from when you file, not when you became unemployed. I made the mistake of waiting a month to file and lost out on 4 weeks of benefits even though I was approved.

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Oh wow that's good to know. I'll file tonight then. Do I need to gather all my documents first or can I start the application and add them later?

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You can start the application without everything, they'll tell you what additional docs they need during the process.

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Washington ESD is pretty strict about voluntary quits. You'll need to prove the hour reduction made your job unsustainable. Calculate what your weekly pay was before vs after the cut - if it's below minimum wage equivalent for full time work that strengthens your case.

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That's smart, I hadn't thought about calculating it that way. I was making about $600/week before and dropped to like $200/week after the cuts.

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That's a massive reduction! Definitely document those numbers clearly in your application. That kind of cut would make it unreasonable to continue working there.

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yeah that's like a 70% pay cut, no way anyone could live on that

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Just wanted to add that if your claim gets denied initially, don't give up! You can appeal and a lot of voluntary quit cases get overturned on appeal when people can explain their situation better. The initial reviewers sometimes just see 'quit' and automatically deny.

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Good to know there's an appeal option. How long do you have to file an appeal if needed?

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I think it's 30 days from when you get the determination letter. But hopefully it won't come to that with your clear case of hour reduction.

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Make sure when you file that you emphasize this was a SUBSTANTIAL reduction in hours that made the job no longer viable. Washington ESD looks for specific language about why continuing employment was unreasonable.

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Should I use those exact words - 'substantial reduction' and 'unreasonable to continue'?

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Yes, those are the kind of terms Washington ESD looks for. Be specific about the impact - couldn't pay bills, had to look for other work, etc.

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I used that Claimyr service someone mentioned earlier when I had issues with my adjudication taking forever. It actually worked really well - got connected to a Washington ESD rep who could look at my case and explain what was happening. Way better than just waiting and wondering.

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How quickly were you able to get through to someone?

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It was like same day or next day, way faster than trying to call myself. The rep was able to see exactly where my case was in the review process.

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Also FYI if you've been looking for work during these 6 weeks, make sure to mention that in your application. It shows you weren't just sitting around after quitting, you were actively trying to find new employment.

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I have been applying places, should I save those applications as proof?

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It's not required for the initial application but good to keep track of your job search activities. You'll need to report them on weekly claims anyway.

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whatever you do don't mention anything about being fed up with the job or the manager when you file. stick to the facts about hours and pay reduction. they don't care about personality conflicts

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Good point, I was definitely frustrated but I'll focus on the concrete issues with hours and pay.

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Exactly, keep it business focused. 'Hours reduced from X to Y making employment no longer viable' rather than 'manager was a jerk

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Quick question - did your employer give any reason for cutting your hours or was it just sudden? If they said it was permanent vs temporary that might matter for your case.

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They said it was because business was slow but didn't give any timeline for when it might get better. This was like 2 months of reduced hours before I finally quit.

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2 months of reduced hours shows you tried to make it work! That's good for your case - demonstrates the reduction wasn't just temporary.

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Last thing - when you file make sure your reason for leaving is coded correctly. There should be an option for 'reduction in hours' or 'change in working conditions' rather than just 'voluntary quit'.

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I'll look for those specific options when I'm filling out the forms. Thanks everyone, this has been super helpful!

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Good luck! With that level of hour reduction you should have a strong case.

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Yeah definitely sounds like you have good cause. Hope it goes smoothly!

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One more tip - if they do put your claim in adjudication and you need to talk to someone about the status, that Claimyr thing people mentioned actually works. I was skeptical at first but when I couldn't get through to Washington ESD for weeks, it was worth trying. Got answers about my case that I never would have gotten otherwise.

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Seems like a few people have had success with that. I'll keep it in mind if I run into issues getting information about my claim.

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Yeah it's nice to have options when the normal phone system is basically broken during busy times.

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Just want to add that you should also keep records of any communications you had with your manager about the hour reduction - texts, emails, schedule changes, etc. Washington ESD will want to see a clear timeline of what happened. Also, when you file, be prepared for them to contact your former employer to verify your story, so make sure everything you report is accurate. The fact that you stuck it out for 2 months trying to make it work actually helps show you didn't just quit impulsively. Good luck with your application!

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