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Alice Fleming

How long does Washington ESD unemployment appeal take to process?

Filed an appeal with Washington ESD about 6 weeks ago after they denied my claim saying I quit voluntarily (which isn't true - I was laid off due to restructuring). The appeal confirmation said I'd get a hearing scheduled but haven't heard anything yet. My savings are running out and I'm getting really stressed about how much longer this might take. Has anyone been through the Washington ESD appeal process recently? What should I expect for timing?

Washington ESD appeals can take anywhere from 8-16 weeks depending on their backlog. The hearing postponements are unfortunately common - they're understaffed. Make sure you have all your documentation ready (emails, termination letter, etc.) because once they do schedule your hearing, you'll want to present a strong case immediately.

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Thanks for the timeline. Do you know if there's any way to check the status of my appeal online? I can't find anything in my SecureAccess Washington account.

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Appeals don't show up in your regular Washington ESD account unfortunately. You'll need to call the appeals office directly, but good luck getting through - their phone lines are always jammed.

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Washington ESD appeals typically take 8-12 weeks from filing to hearing, sometimes longer if they're backlogged. You should receive a hearing notice by mail at least 10 days before your scheduled hearing date. The actual hearing usually lasts 30-45 minutes and you'll get a written decision within 2-3 weeks after that.

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12 weeks total?? I can't wait that long without any income. Is there anything I can do to speed this up?

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Unfortunately there's no way to expedite the process. Make sure you keep filing your weekly claims even during the appeal - if you win, you'll get backpay for all those weeks.

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same situation here!! filed my appeal 2 months ago and STILL waiting. they said voluntary quit but i was clearly fired for 'performance issues' that were never documented. this is ridiculous

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2 months?? That's insane. Did you try calling them at all or are you just waiting?

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tried calling like 50 times, always busy signal or get disconnected after waiting on hold for an hour

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Appeals usually take 3-6 weeks after the hearing for the written decision. Mine took about a month last year.

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That's reassuring, thanks. Did you win your appeal? I'm worried they'll side with my employer even though their story doesn't add up.

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Yes I won. The key is having good documentation. Sounds like you have evidence on your side which is good.

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I went through this last year and honestly, the hardest part was just getting someone at Washington ESD on the phone to check my appeal status. I must have called hundreds of times over 3 months before I found this service called Claimyr (claimyr.com) that actually got me through to an agent. They have this system that keeps calling until they reach someone for you. There's a demo video at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ that shows how it works. Game changer for me because I was able to get my appeal expedited once I actually spoke to someone.

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Wait, they can expedite appeals? I had no idea that was even possible. What did you have to do?

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The agent explained that if you have clear documentation proving wrongful disqualification, they can sometimes fast-track it. But you have to actually talk to someone first, which is nearly impossible without help.

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Never heard of that service but honestly at this point I'll try anything. The phone system is completely broken.

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I went through this last year and it took about 10 weeks total. The hardest part was just waiting and not knowing when I'd hear back. Make sure you have all your documentation ready - termination letter, emails, anything that proves you were laid off and didn't quit.

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Did you have a lawyer or represent yourself? I'm worried I won't know what to say during the hearing.

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I represented myself. Just stick to the facts and bring all your evidence. The administrative law judge will ask questions to get the full story.

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The timeline depends on how complex your case is and how backed up the appeals office is. Washington ESD has been pretty overwhelmed lately. You can check your appeal status online through your SecureAccess Washington account under the 'Appeals' section.

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I've been checking constantly but it just says 'decision pending' still. No updates since the hearing date.

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That's normal. The status won't change until they mail out the decision. Then it usually updates online a day or two later.

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Here's what I learned from my appeals experience: Washington ESD has 30 days to issue a decision after your hearing, but that doesn't include the time to actually schedule the hearing. The whole process averages 10-14 weeks. If your employer doesn't show up to the hearing (which happens about 40% of the time), you'll likely win by default. Keep documenting everything and stay patient.

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40% no-show rate? That's actually encouraging. My employer has been really difficult about this whole thing so maybe they won't even bother showing up.

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Don't count on it though. My employer showed up with a lawyer and everything. Still won because I had good documentation but it was stressful.

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The wait times have gotten worse lately. I know someone who filed an appeal in September and just had their hearing last month. If you're having trouble getting through to Washington ESD to check on your appeal status, I used this service called Claimyr (claimyr.com) that automatically calls and gets you connected to an actual person. There's a video demo at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ showing how it works. Saved me hours of redialing.

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That sounds too good to be true. How much does it cost?

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It's worth checking out their site for pricing. The time I saved not sitting on hold for hours was huge, especially when I needed answers about my appeal timeline.

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I've heard of Claimyr but never tried it. Might be worth it if you're desperate to talk to someone at Washington ESD.

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This whole system is ridiculous!! Why does it take 3 months to figure out if someone deserves benefits they already earned? I'm in the same boat - been waiting 7 weeks for my appeal hearing after they said I was fired for misconduct. TOTAL BS.

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I feel your frustration. Were you actually fired for misconduct or is Washington ESD just saying that?

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They're saying showing up 10 minutes late twice in 6 months is 'willful misconduct.' Meanwhile I worked there 3 years with no other issues. The whole thing is a joke.

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I'm in the same boat - had my hearing 6 weeks ago and still waiting. It's so frustrating not knowing when you'll get an answer. At least if you win you get all the back pay from when you were disqualified.

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Yeah the back pay would be huge at this point. Fingers crossed for both of us!

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Just so you know, if you're having trouble reaching Washington ESD to check on your appeal status, I used a service called Claimyr that helps you get through to them. Check out claimyr.com - they have a demo video at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ that shows how it works.

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This whole appeals process is designed to wear you down so you give up. I've been waiting 4 months now and still no hearing date. Meanwhile I'm supposed to keep looking for work and reporting it even though I'm not getting paid. The system is completely broken and they know it.

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4 months is crazy! Have you tried contacting your state representative's office? I heard they can sometimes help with Washington ESD issues.

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Yeah I tried that too. They said they'd 'look into it' but never heard back. Honestly thinking about just giving up at this point.

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Don't give up! Once you get to the hearing stage, if you have documentation proving you were laid off, you should win. The appeals judges are usually fair, it's just getting there that's the nightmare.

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Won my appeal last month after 12 weeks. Key things: gather EVERYTHING - emails, texts, witness statements, company policies. The judge asked very specific questions about the circumstances of my termination. Also, practice explaining your side clearly and concisely. You get limited time to present your case.

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Congrats on winning! Did you get back pay for all the weeks you were waiting?

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Yes, got back pay for the entire period once the decision was issued. That part was actually processed pretty quickly, about 2 weeks after the favorable decision.

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update: finally got through to washington esd today using that claimyr thing someone mentioned. turns out my appeal was sitting in the wrong queue for 6 weeks because of some clerical error. agent said she'd flag it for priority review. might have saved me months of waiting

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Wow, that's exactly the kind of thing I'm worried about. Glad you got it sorted out. How long did it take them to get you through?

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took about 2 hours but they kept trying until someone answered. way better than me sitting there redialing all day

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Important thing to remember - even if your initial claim was denied, you MUST continue filing your weekly claims during the appeal process. If you don't file weekly claims, you won't get backpay even if you win the appeal. This trips up a lot of people.

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Wait really? I have to keep doing the weekly claims even though I'm not getting paid anything?

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Yes! Keep filing every week and keep doing your job search activities. If your appeal is successful, Washington ESD will pay you for all those weeks retroactively.

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This is correct. I made this mistake and lost 4 weeks of benefits even though I won my appeal.

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Be prepared for your employer to lie during the hearing. Mine claimed I was frequently late and had attendance issues that were never documented anywhere. Luckily I had my own records showing I was always on time. The appeals judge saw right through their BS. Document everything from day one at any job!

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That's exactly what I'm worried about. They're already claiming I quit when I have the layoff email. Thanks for the heads up about keeping personal records.

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Same thing happened to me. Employer made up a whole story about insubordination. Good thing I had email evidence showing they were the ones being unreasonable.

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The waiting is the worst part. I'm on week 14 of my appeal and still haven't heard anything. Bills are piling up and I'm starting to panic. At least you're only 6 weeks in - there's still hope yours will move faster than mine.

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14 weeks is insane! Have you tried that calling service other people mentioned? Seems like a lot of people have hidden issues that only get resolved when they actually talk to someone.

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I'm going to try it this week. At this point I'm desperate and will try anything.

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Pro tip: if your hearing gets postponed, ask for the earliest available slot. Don't just accept whatever date they give you. I got my hearing moved up by 3 weeks just by asking. Also, the phone hearings are usually scheduled faster than in-person ones.

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Good to know! I think mine is scheduled for phone hearing but I'll definitely ask about earlier slots if it gets postponed again.

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Phone hearings are actually better anyway. You can have all your documents spread out in front of you and refer to them easily.

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Washington ESD appeals are supposed to be decided within 45 days of the hearing according to their own guidelines, but they rarely meet that deadline. I've seen cases take 2-3 months especially if there are complicated employment issues involved.

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Ugh 2-3 months would be brutal. I really hope mine doesn't take that long.

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The 45 day thing is more of a goal than a hard deadline unfortunately. Budget cuts have really slowed down their appeals process.

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Did you file for benefits during the appeal? You can still file weekly claims even while your appeal is pending. If you win, you'll get paid for all those weeks retroactively.

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Yes I've been filing every week just in case. Good to know I'm doing the right thing there.

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Definitely keep filing. I made that mistake once and lost out on weeks of benefits even after winning my appeal.

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Just wanted to add that even if your appeal takes forever, you should still keep filing your weekly claims. Mark that you're appealing the disqualification. If you win, you'll get paid for all those weeks. If you don't file, you lose those weeks permanently.

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Wait, I need to keep filing weekly claims even though I'm disqualified? Washington ESD never told me that!

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Yes! It's called 'continued claiming' and it's required to preserve your rights. Should be an option in your account to indicate you're appealing.

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This is crucial advice. I've seen people lose months of benefits because they stopped filing during their appeal.

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Mine took exactly 9 weeks from filing to getting the decision letter. Had my hearing on a Tuesday morning via phone (they do most hearings by phone now) and got the written decision 2 weeks later. Won my case thankfully.

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What was your hearing like? I'm so nervous about having to explain everything to a judge.

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It was way less scary than I expected. The judge just asked me to explain what happened, then asked my former employer questions. Whole thing took maybe 20 minutes.

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What was the reason for your disqualification? If it was misconduct vs voluntary quit the timelines can be different.

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They said voluntary quit but I was definitely laid off. My employer is claiming I quit after getting written up but that's not what happened at all.

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Sounds like a typical employer trying to avoid their unemployment tax increase. Those cases usually go in favor of the employee if you have any documentation of the layoff.

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My appeal took 11 weeks total but the actual hearing was only 20 minutes. Judge was very thorough and asked both sides detailed questions. I had organized all my evidence by date and could answer everything quickly. Preparation is key!

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That's really helpful! I'm going to create a timeline of everything that happened leading up to my layoff. Did you have a representative or represent yourself?

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Represented myself. Most appeals are straightforward enough that you don't need a lawyer if you're organized and honest.

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If you need to check on your appeal status, calling Washington ESD is nearly impossible. I tried for weeks to get through. Finally used Claimyr and got connected within an hour. Found out my hearing was actually scheduled and the notice got lost in the mail!

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Oh no, what would have happened if you missed the hearing because of lost mail?

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They would have made a decision without me, which probably would have meant losing the appeal. Always good to double-check your appeal status.

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been there done that, took forever for mine too. like 8 weeks i think? just keep checking online every few days

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8 weeks jeez. I'm at 8 weeks total since filing the appeal but only 2 weeks since the hearing.

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If you need to contact Washington ESD about your appeal status and can't get through on the phone, you might want to try reaching out to your state representative's office. They sometimes have direct contacts that can help check on stuck appeals.

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That's a good idea. I hadn't thought of contacting my rep's office.

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Before going that route, I'd try Claimyr first. Much easier than dealing with politicians and you actually get to talk to Washington ESD directly.

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The waiting is the worst part. I remember refreshing my account constantly when I was waiting for my appeal decision. Try to stay busy and not think about it too much.

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Easier said than done when you're behind on bills and stressed about money!

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I totally get it. The financial stress makes everything worse. Hang in there.

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One thing to keep in mind is that if you disagree with the appeal decision, you can file a second appeal to the Board of Appeals within 30 days. But hopefully it won't come to that.

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God I hope I don't have to go through another round of appeals. This is already taking forever.

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Most people don't need to go to the Board level. The first appeal usually resolves things one way or another.

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Update on my situation - just got my decision letter yesterday! Won my appeal after 7 weeks total. Keep the faith!

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Congrats! That gives me hope. What was your case about?

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Similar to yours actually - employer claimed I quit but I was laid off. Had my termination paperwork which made all the difference.

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The appeal process is so slow because they're understaffed. Washington ESD cut a lot of positions over the years and now they can't keep up with the workload.

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That's frustrating but explains a lot. Seems like every government agency is understaffed these days.

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For what it's worth, I had success using Claimyr to get through to Washington ESD when they took forever on my appeal. Was able to speak to someone who could at least confirm my case was being worked on. Gave me peace of mind while waiting.

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How much does that service cost? I'm already strapped for cash waiting for this appeal.

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It's worth checking out their site claimyr.com for the details. I found it helpful just to know my case wasn't lost in the system.

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Had my hearing 3 weeks ago still waiting too. Judge seemed pretty sympathetic during the hearing so hoping for good news soon.

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That's encouraging! My judge was pretty neutral so hard to read which way it might go.

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Remember that even if you lose the first appeal, you still have options. Don't give up if the initial decision doesn't go your way.

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Thanks for the encouragement. Really hoping it doesn't come to that though.

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The key is having all your documentation ready. Sounds like you were prepared for your hearing which is good. Now it's just the waiting game unfortunately.

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Yeah I brought everything I could think of. Layoff notice, emails from my supervisor, even witness statements from coworkers.

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washington esd is just slow with everything. took them 2 months to even schedule my hearing then another 6 weeks for the decision

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2 months just to schedule? That's crazy. At least mine was scheduled within 3 weeks.

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Final thought - make sure your address is updated with Washington ESD. Sometimes decisions get delayed because they can't deliver the letter to the right address.

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Good point, I should double check that. Would hate for it to get lost in the mail.

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Sending good vibes your way! The waiting is terrible but sounds like you have a strong case with good documentation.

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Thanks! Really appreciate all the support and advice from everyone here.

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Just to circle back on the Claimyr thing - I know some people are skeptical but it really does work for getting through to Washington ESD when you need updates. Worth looking into if you're getting anxious about the wait.

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I might give it a try if I don't hear anything in the next week or two. The anxiety is definitely getting to me.

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Don't forget to check if your employer is fighting the appeal just to delay paying increased unemployment insurance rates. Some companies automatically contest every claim regardless of merit. It's a numbers game for them.

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That's so frustrating! My company laid off 30 people but they're still fighting every unemployment claim. Makes sense now.

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Yep, it's a common corporate strategy. They know most people will give up if the process takes long enough.

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Finally got my appeal decision after 13 weeks - WON! The key was having that termination email showing 'position eliminated due to restructuring.' Judge said that was clear evidence of involuntary separation. Hang in there, the process sucks but it's worth it if you have good documentation.

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Congratulations! That gives me hope since I have similar documentation. Did you get your back pay quickly after the decision?

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Took about 10 days for the back pay to hit my account. Washington ESD processes appeal payments faster than regular claims for some reason.

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One thing nobody mentions is that you can submit additional evidence up to 5 days before your hearing. I found more emails after my initial appeal and was able to include them. Really strengthened my case.

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Good to know! I'm still going through old emails and might find more evidence. Thanks for the tip!

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Just make sure you follow the proper procedure for submitting additional evidence. Has to go through the appeals office, not regular Washington ESD.

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Been following this thread and just wanted to say that Claimyr service really works. Used it yesterday and got through to an agent who told me my appeal hearing was scheduled for next week - nobody had bothered to notify me! Without that call I would have missed it completely.

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Oh wow, that's terrifying! I'm definitely going to check on my appeal status now. Thanks for sharing that.

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washington esd communication is the worst. they send important notices to old addresses or don't send them at all

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Quick update for anyone still reading - got word that my hearing is finally scheduled for next month. 10 weeks total wait time. Thanks everyone for the advice and encouragement. This thread has been more helpful than anything Washington ESD provided!

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Glad to hear your hearing got scheduled! I'm going to try that calling service to check on mine. This community has been amazing for navigating this nightmare system.

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Good luck with your hearing! Remember to stay calm and stick to the facts. You've got this!

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You're going to do great! Having that layoff documentation should make it a straightforward win.

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Pro tip: if your employer doesn't show up to the hearing (which happens more often than you'd think), you'll almost certainly win by default. But you still have to show up and present your case.

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How would I know if my employer is going to show up or not?

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You won't know until the hearing starts. But smaller companies sometimes don't bother sending anyone, especially if they think it's not worth their time.

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Just wanted to add - gather ANY documentation you have about your layoff. Even if it seems minor, it could help your case. Emails, text messages, witness statements from coworkers, anything that shows you didn't quit voluntarily.

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I have the email about the layoffs but that's about it. My manager who laid me off isn't there anymore.

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That email should be enough, especially if it clearly states it was due to restructuring and not performance issues.

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The waiting is the worst part honestly. I was so stressed about money during my appeal that I almost gave up and just accepted the denial. SO glad I didn't - I won and got 8 weeks of backpay.

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That gives me hope! Did you have a strong case or were you worried you might lose?

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I was worried because my employer was claiming I quit without notice, but I had emails showing they told me not to come back. Documentation saved me.

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One more thing about Claimyr - when I called Washington ESD through them, the agent was able to tell me exactly where my appeal was in the process and gave me a rough timeline. Much better than guessing.

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I might try that this week. I'm going crazy not knowing what's happening with my case.

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Just used Claimyr yesterday for my appeal question. Worked exactly like they showed in their demo video.

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been waiting 11 weeks for my hearing and still nothing... starting to think they lost my paperwork or something

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11 weeks?? That's way longer than what others are saying. Have you tried calling to check?

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tried calling like 50 times, never get through. maybe i should try that claimyr thing people mentioned

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For anyone waiting on appeals - the backlog is real. They're understaffed and dealing with more appeals than usual. Hang in there, most people do eventually get their hearings scheduled.

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Thanks for the encouragement. Some days I wonder if it's even worth fighting.

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It's definitely worth fighting if you have a legitimate case. The backpay alone makes it worthwhile.

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Make sure your address is updated with Washington ESD! I moved during my appeal and almost missed my hearing notice because it went to my old address.

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Good point, I'll double check my address is current. How do you update it?

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You can update it online through your SecureAccess Washington account or by calling (if you can get through).

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The judge will ask your employer why they think you quit voluntarily. If they can't provide evidence (like a resignation letter or witness statements), their case falls apart pretty quickly.

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That makes sense. I never submitted any resignation or gave any notice, so hopefully that works in my favor.

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ugh this whole process is such a nightmare. why can't they just look at the facts and make a decision instead of dragging it out for months??

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I know right? It feels like they're hoping people will just give up and stop trying.

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That's probably exactly what they're hoping for. Don't let them wear you down!

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Just had my hearing last week after waiting 10 weeks. Won my case! The employer didn't even show up and I got approved for all the backpay. Don't give up!

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Congrats! That's awesome to hear. Gives me hope that mine will work out too.

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Keep fighting it. The waiting sucks but it's worth it when you win.

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If anyone's wondering, you can have someone represent you at the hearing (like a lawyer or advocate) but most people just represent themselves for simple cases like wrongful quit determinations.

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I thought about getting a lawyer but wasn't sure if it was necessary.

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For a straightforward case like yours where you have documentation, you probably don't need one.

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The most important thing is to stay organized and keep all your documents ready. When you get your hearing notice, it will tell you exactly what evidence to bring.

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Thanks everyone for all the advice. Feeling a bit more confident about this whole process now.

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Good luck with your appeal! Most people with legitimate cases do end up winning.

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Final tip - write down a timeline of events before your hearing. Having dates and details organized will help you explain your case clearly to the judge.

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Great idea! I'll start putting together a timeline this weekend.

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