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Can you get temporary unemployment for maternity leave in Washington?

I'm 7 months pregnant and trying to figure out if I can apply for unemployment benefits during my maternity leave. My employer doesn't offer paid maternity leave and I won't be able to work for about 12 weeks after delivery. I heard Washington ESD might have some options but I'm really confused about what qualifies. Does anyone know if temporary unemployment is available for maternity leave situations? I need to start planning financially since my due date is in February.

Unfortunately, regular unemployment benefits through Washington ESD don't typically cover maternity leave because you're not available for work. However, Washington State has Paid Family and Medical Leave (PFML) which is administered by the state but separate from unemployment insurance. You might qualify for that instead.

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Oh I didn't know about PFML! Is that through Washington ESD or a different department?

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It's through the Employment Security Department but it's a different program. You apply through the same website but it's not unemployment insurance - it's specifically for family and medical leave.

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I went through this last year and it was so confusing! The regular UI benefits won't work because one of the requirements is that you have to be able and available for work. When you're on maternity leave, you're obviously not available. But PFML is designed exactly for this situation.

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How much does PFML pay compared to regular unemployment? And do you have to have worked for a certain amount of time to qualify?

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PFML pays up to $1,327 per week but it depends on your income. You need to have worked at least 820 hours in the qualifying period. It's actually better than regular UI for most people.

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Just to clarify the difference - unemployment insurance is for people who lost their job through no fault of their own and are actively seeking work. Maternity leave doesn't fit that criteria since you're temporarily unable to work by choice (even though it's necessary). Washington's PFML program is specifically designed for situations like yours where you need time off for family or medical reasons.

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That makes sense. So I should apply for PFML instead of trying to file an unemployment claim?

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Exactly. You'll want to apply for PFML benefits, not unemployment. The application process is different and the eligibility requirements are specifically for family and medical leave.

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I'm dealing with something similar and have been trying to call Washington ESD for weeks to get clear information about this. The phone lines are always busy and I keep getting disconnected. Has anyone found a way to actually talk to someone about PFML applications?

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I had the same problem calling Washington ESD directly. I ended up using a service called Claimyr (claimyr.com) that helped me get through to an actual agent. They have a video demo at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ that shows how it works. It was really helpful for getting specific answers about my situation.

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Thanks! I'll check that out. I've been trying to call during lunch breaks but never get through.

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wait im confused, can you get both unemployment and PFML at the same time? like if you got laid off while pregnant?

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No, you can't collect both at the same time. If you got laid off while pregnant, you'd initially qualify for unemployment as long as you're able and available for work. But once you go on maternity leave, you'd switch to PFML.

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ok that makes sense, thanks for explaining

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The whole system is ridiculous if you ask me. Why should new mothers have to jump through hoops just to get some financial support? Other countries handle this so much better.

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I mean, at least Washington has PFML now. A lot of states don't have anything like that.

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True, but it's still way too complicated to figure out what you qualify for.

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For anyone applying for PFML, make sure you have all your employment documentation ready. They need detailed information about your work history and wages. The application process is pretty thorough.

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What kind of documentation do they need exactly? I want to make sure I have everything ready.

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You'll need pay stubs, tax forms, and your employer's information. If you've had multiple jobs, they need info for all of them during the qualifying period.

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I tried to apply for regular unemployment when I was pregnant last year and got denied because I wasn't available for work. The adjudication process took forever and I wish I had known about PFML from the start.

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Oh no! Did you eventually get PFML benefits or did the delay cause problems?

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I did get PFML eventually but it delayed everything by like 6 weeks. Definitely apply for the right program from the beginning.

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The timing of when you apply for PFML is important too. You can apply up to 30 days before you need to start your leave, but don't wait too long because processing can take time.

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So I should apply soon even though I'm not due until February?

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You can apply up to 30 days before your leave starts, so probably wait until January unless you're planning to take leave before delivery.

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Just want to add that if you're self-employed, the rules are different. You have to opt into PFML coverage and pay premiums for a certain period before you can claim benefits.

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I'm an employee, not self-employed, so I think I should be covered automatically?

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Yes, if you're a regular employee your employer should be paying into the system automatically. You can check your pay stubs to see the PFML deduction.

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Has anyone had issues with their employer not cooperating with PFML paperwork? My boss seems annoyed that I'm taking leave at all.

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Your employer is legally required to provide the necessary documentation for PFML. If they're not cooperating, you might need to contact Washington ESD directly or file a complaint.

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Good to know, thanks. I'll keep that in mind if they give me trouble.

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One thing to watch out for - make sure you understand the difference between bonding leave and medical leave for PFML. Medical leave is for your recovery after delivery, bonding leave is for time with your new baby. The timing and duration can be different.

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Can you take both types of leave? Like medical leave first then bonding leave?

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Yes, you can take both. Medical leave starts when you're unable to work due to childbirth, then bonding leave can start after that. Total time depends on your specific situation.

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I'm in a similar situation and was also confused about unemployment vs PFML. The Washington ESD website has information about both but it's not super clear about which one applies when.

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Yeah the website could be clearer. I ended up calling and actually got through using that Claimyr service someone mentioned earlier. The agent was able to explain exactly which program I needed to apply for.

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I might try that too. I've been putting off calling because I know it's such a hassle to get through.

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For what it's worth, PFML benefits are generally better than unemployment anyway. The weekly benefit amount is usually higher and you don't have to worry about job search requirements.

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That's good to hear! I was worried I'd be missing out by not being able to get unemployment.

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Nope, PFML is definitely the better option for maternity leave. It's designed specifically for family and medical situations.

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Don't forget that PFML also covers other family members if you need to care for them. It's not just for your own medical leave or bonding with a new baby.

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That's good to know for the future. Right now I just need to focus on maternity leave planning.

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Absolutely, just wanted to mention it since a lot of people don't realize how comprehensive the PFML program is.

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The key difference is that unemployment is for people who are out of work involuntarily and actively seeking employment, while PFML is for people who are temporarily unable to work due to family or medical reasons. Maternity leave definitely falls under the second category.

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That's a really clear way to explain it. I feel much less confused now about which program to apply for.

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Glad I could help! The distinction is important because trying to apply for the wrong program just delays getting the benefits you actually need.

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I went through the PFML application process last year and it was pretty straightforward once I understood what was needed. The hardest part was just figuring out initially that PFML was the right program, not unemployment.

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How long did it take to get approved and start receiving benefits?

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It took about 3 weeks from application to first payment, but that was pretty typical. Some people get approved faster, some take longer depending on their situation.

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Just to wrap this up for anyone reading - if you're planning maternity leave in Washington State, apply for Paid Family and Medical Leave (PFML), not unemployment insurance. PFML is specifically designed for family and medical leave situations and provides better benefits than UI would anyway.

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Thanks everyone for all the helpful information! I feel much more confident about the process now.

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You're welcome! Good luck with everything and congratulations on your upcoming arrival!

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