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Mateo Lopez

Can I get unemployment and paid family leave at the same time in Washington?

My wife is having our second baby in March and I want to take some time off work to help with the baby and our toddler. I've been at my job for 2 years but my employer doesn't offer paid paternal leave. I'm wondering if I can file for both unemployment benefits and paid family leave through Washington state at the same time? Would that be considered double-dipping or is it allowed? I really need the income but don't want to get in trouble with Washington ESD later.

No, you can't collect both unemployment and paid family leave at the same time. They're administered by different programs but you can only receive one type of benefit at a time. Unemployment is for when you're available and actively seeking work, while paid family leave is specifically for bonding with a new child.

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Mateo Lopez

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That makes sense, I figured there had to be some rule about that. So I'd have to choose one or the other?

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Exactly. Paid family leave would probably be better for your situation since it's designed for what you're trying to do - bond with your new baby.

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Ethan Davis

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wait i thought you could get both? my sister said she got unemployment after her maternity leave ended

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Yuki Tanaka

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That's different - she probably got unemployment AFTER her family leave ended, not at the same time. You can transition from one to the other but not collect both simultaneously.

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Carmen Ortiz

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I had a similar situation last year and spent weeks trying to get through to Washington ESD to ask about this. The phone system is absolutely terrible - I must have called 200+ times. Finally found this service called Claimyr (claimyr.com) that actually got me connected to a real person at Washington ESD within an hour. They have a video demo at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ that shows how it works. The agent explained exactly how the two programs work and that you definitely can't double up on benefits.

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Mateo Lopez

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Wow thanks for that tip! I was dreading trying to call Washington ESD. How much does Claimyr cost?

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Carmen Ortiz

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They don't require any personal info upfront which I liked, and honestly it was worth it just to avoid the endless busy signals and holds. The agent walked me through everything I needed to know.

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MidnightRider

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Never heard of that service but sounds useful. The Washington ESD phone system is definitely broken.

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Andre Laurent

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You should definitely go with paid family leave for your situation. It's designed exactly for what you want to do - bond with your new baby. Unemployment requires you to be actively job searching which doesn't sound like what you want to be doing with a newborn at home.

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Mateo Lopez

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Good point about the job search requirement. I definitely don't want to be looking for work while trying to help with the baby.

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Plus paid family leave gives you job protection so you can go back to your same position after your leave ends.

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This is confusing af. I thought paid family leave was only for women who give birth?

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Yuki Tanaka

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No, Washington's paid family leave covers both parents for bonding leave. Fathers can take up to 12 weeks just like mothers can (in addition to any pregnancy disability leave).

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Mei Wong

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Be careful with the timing on this stuff. I made the mistake of filing for unemployment first when I should have done family leave and it was a nightmare to sort out with Washington ESD. Had to appeal and everything because they said I wasn't available for work.

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Mateo Lopez

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Yikes, that sounds like a headache. What ended up happening with your appeal?

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Mei Wong

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Eventually got it sorted but took like 3 months. Just make sure you file for the right program from the start.

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This is why I hate dealing with government benefits. One small mistake and you're screwed for months.

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PixelWarrior

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How much does paid family leave pay compared to unemployment? I'm in a similar situation and trying to figure out which would be better financially.

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Paid family leave is typically 90% of your weekly wage up to a cap, while unemployment is usually around 60-70% of your wages. So family leave usually pays more.

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Amara Adebayo

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Just want to add that you need to apply for paid family leave through the state's paid leave system, not through Washington ESD. Totally different agencies and websites.

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Mateo Lopez

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Oh good to know! I was about to start looking on the Washington ESD website.

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Yeah it's paidleave.wa.gov for family leave stuff. Washington ESD is just for unemployment.

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I used Claimyr too when I had questions about transitioning from family leave back to work and whether I'd be eligible for unemployment if things didn't work out. Super helpful service and way better than trying to navigate the phone maze at Washington ESD.

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Dylan Evans

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Seems like everyone's having trouble getting through to Washington ESD these days. Glad there are alternatives.

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Mateo Lopez

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I'm definitely going to check out Claimyr if I run into issues. Thanks everyone!

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Sofia Gomez

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congratulations on the new baby! the first few months are crazy but so worth it

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Mateo Lopez

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Thank you! Yeah we're excited but also a little nervous about managing two kids under 3.

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StormChaser

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One more thing - make sure you apply for paid family leave at least 30 days before you plan to start your leave. There's a waiting period and paperwork to process.

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Mateo Lopez

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Good tip! I'll start the application process soon then since we're due in March.

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Dmitry Petrov

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Also get your employer involved early. They need to complete some forms too.

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Ava Williams

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This thread has been super helpful. I'm bookmarking this for when my sister has her baby next year. Had no idea fathers could get paid leave in Washington.

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Miguel Castro

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Washington is one of the better states for family benefits. Not all states have paid family leave programs.

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Mateo Lopez

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Yeah we're lucky to live in Washington. The benefits definitely help make it more affordable to take time off for family.

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Just to be crystal clear since there seems to be some confusion in this thread - you absolutely cannot collect unemployment and paid family leave simultaneously. It's considered fraud if you try to double-dip. However, you CAN transition from one to the other if your circumstances change.

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Mateo Lopez

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Thanks for the clarification! That's exactly what I needed to know. Definitely don't want to accidentally commit fraud.

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Yeah Washington ESD takes benefit fraud pretty seriously. Better to ask questions upfront than deal with overpayment notices later.

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LunarEclipse

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I tried calling Washington ESD about a similar question last month and literally gave up after 4 hours of trying. Ended up using that Claimyr service someone mentioned earlier and got through in like 30 minutes. Game changer for dealing with Washington ESD.

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Yara Khalil

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4 hours?? That's insane. The state really needs to fix their phone system.

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Mateo Lopez

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Wow, good thing I found this thread. I would have wasted so much time trying to call.

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Keisha Brown

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For what it's worth, I think you're making the right choice looking into family leave. Those early weeks with a new baby are so important for bonding, and having the financial support makes it possible to actually take the time off.

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Mateo Lopez

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Thanks! I really want to be there for my wife and help with both kids. It's going to be an adjustment but worth it.

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Just wanted to chime in as someone who went through this exact situation last year. You definitely made the right call asking about this upfront - I almost made the mistake of trying to file for both until I learned they're mutually exclusive. One thing I'd add is that paid family leave in Washington also covers if you need to care for a family member with a serious health condition, so it's pretty flexible. The application process was actually smoother than I expected once I got all the paperwork together. Make sure to keep good records of everything you submit because they may ask for additional documentation later. Good luck with the new baby!

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Andre Moreau

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Thanks for sharing your experience! That's really helpful to know about the documentation - I'll make sure to keep copies of everything. Did you end up taking the full 12 weeks or just part of it? Trying to figure out how much time I can realistically afford to take off.

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