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Can I file for unemployment if I was terminated - Washington ESD eligibility question

I got let go from my job two days ago and I'm trying to figure out if I can even apply for unemployment benefits through Washington ESD. My manager said it was due to 'performance issues' but honestly I think they just wanted to cut costs. I've been working there for almost 2 years and never had any formal write-ups or warnings. Does being terminated automatically disqualify me from getting UI benefits? I'm really stressed about how I'm going to pay my bills next month.

You can definitely file for unemployment even if you were terminated. Washington ESD looks at the reason for termination - if it wasn't for misconduct, you should be eligible. Performance issues usually don't count as misconduct unless they were willful or deliberate. You should file your claim right away since there's a waiting period.

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That's a relief to hear. How do I prove it wasn't misconduct? I don't have any documentation from them about the performance stuff.

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Washington ESD will contact your employer for their side of the story. If they can't prove misconduct with documentation, you'll likely be approved. Just be honest about what happened when you file.

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I was in the exact same situation last year - terminated for 'performance' after 3 years with no warnings. Filed with Washington ESD and got approved after about 2 weeks. The key is filing immediately and being truthful about everything.

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Did your employer try to fight it? I'm worried they'll make up stuff to prevent me from getting benefits.

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They did respond to Washington ESD but couldn't provide any real evidence of misconduct. Just vague performance complaints. I got my benefits without any issues.

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Never heard of that service. Is it legitimate or just another scam?

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It's legit - I used it when I couldn't get through on my own. Way better than hitting redial for hours trying to reach Washington ESD.

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Good to know there are options if I can't get through. Thanks for the heads up.

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Just want to clarify something - being terminated doesn't automatically disqualify you, but Washington ESD will investigate. If they determine it was for misconduct (like stealing, violence, repeated policy violations), then you won't qualify. But poor performance alone usually isn't considered misconduct unless it was intentional.

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What if you were fired for attendance issues? Is that considered misconduct?

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Depends on the circumstances. If you had legitimate reasons (illness, family emergency) it might not be misconduct. But chronic unexcused absences could be.

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ugh the whole system is so confusing. I got fired 6 months ago and it took forever to get approved because of all the back and forth with adjudication. They kept asking for more documentation from my employer.

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How long did the whole process take for you?

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Like 6 weeks total before I got my first payment. The adjudication process was the longest part - they really dig into the details of why you were terminated.

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File online at esd.wa.gov as soon as possible. You'll need your Social Security number, employer information for the last 18 months, and bank account details if you want direct deposit. The sooner you file, the sooner your benefit year starts.

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Do I need pay stubs or anything like that when I file?

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Not to file initially, but keep them handy. Washington ESD might ask for wage verification later if there are any discrepancies.

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Same thing happened to my brother - they said budget cuts but called it performance issues to try to avoid paying unemployment. He fought it and won. Don't let them intimidate you.

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That's exactly what I think is happening here. They laid off 3 people in my department but called it performance.

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Yeah that's a red flag. Definitely file and let Washington ESD sort it out. They're good at seeing through employer BS.

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Just a heads up - even if you qualify, there's a one week waiting period before you can start collecting benefits. Make sure you file your weekly claims every week even during that waiting period or you'll lose those weeks.

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Wait, so I have to file weekly claims even before I start getting paid?

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Yes, you need to file every week to maintain your claim. The system is very strict about that.

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This is so important! I missed filing one week early on and lost that whole week of benefits permanently.

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Pro tip: start documenting your job search efforts immediately. Washington ESD requires you to make at least 3 job search contacts per week once you start receiving benefits. Keep detailed records of where you applied, when, and any responses.

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Do I need to start job searching before my claim is approved?

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You should start right away. Even if your claim is still processing, you'll need to show job search activities for every week you claim benefits.

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I went through this exact situation. Got terminated, filed immediately, and had my benefits approved within 3 weeks. The key is being completely honest about what happened and not trying to sugarcoat anything.

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Did you have to do a phone interview or anything like that?

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Yeah, they called me about 2 weeks after I filed to ask about the circumstances of my termination. Just answer truthfully and you'll be fine.

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Washington ESD is actually pretty fair about these things. They know employers sometimes try to avoid paying unemployment by claiming performance issues. As long as you weren't doing anything intentionally wrong, you should be approved.

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Exactly. I've helped several friends through this process and Washington ESD usually sides with the employee unless there's clear evidence of misconduct.

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That's reassuring. I was really worried they'd just take my employer's word for it.

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Don't wait to file! I made that mistake and lost 2 weeks of potential benefits because I thought I needed to gather more documentation first. You can always provide additional info later if needed.

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Good point. I'll file today then. Better to get the process started.

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Definitely. The worst thing that can happen is they say no, but at least you'll know for sure.

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If you end up needing to talk to someone at Washington ESD and can't get through their phone lines, that Claimyr service someone mentioned earlier actually works. I used it last month when I needed to check on my adjudication status and got connected within minutes instead of calling for hours.

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How much does something like that cost?

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I don't remember the exact amount but it was totally worth it to actually talk to a real person instead of getting hung up on constantly.

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The Washington ESD website has a really helpful tool where you can check if you qualify for benefits before you file. Might be worth looking at just to ease your mind.

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I'll check that out. Do you remember what it's called?

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I think it's called the eligibility tool or something like that. Should be easy to find on their main page.

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Been there! Got terminated 'for cause' last year but it was really just them trying to avoid severance. Filed anyway and got approved after Washington ESD investigated. Don't let them scare you out of filing.

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That gives me hope. I really think this is just them trying to avoid paying out benefits.

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Trust your instincts. If you know you weren't doing anything wrong, fight for your benefits. You earned them.

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One more thing - if Washington ESD does deny your initial claim, you have the right to appeal. Don't give up after the first decision if you truly believe you were wrongfully terminated.

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How long do you have to appeal if they deny you?

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I think it's 30 days from the date of the determination letter, but double check that. The appeal process is worth it if you have a good case.

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Yes, 30 days is correct. I successfully appealed a denial last year and ended up getting all my back benefits.

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Just want to add - if you do get approved and start receiving benefits, make sure you report any income you earn from part-time work or side gigs. Washington ESD will find out eventually and you don't want to deal with an overpayment situation.

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Good to know. I might pick up some freelance work while I'm looking for a new job.

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You can still earn some money while on unemployment, just make sure you report it accurately on your weekly claims.

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Sorry you're going through this! The uncertainty is the worst part. But based on what you've described, you should definitely qualify for benefits. File ASAP and try not to stress too much about it.

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Thanks everyone for all the advice and encouragement. I'm going to file my claim today and see what happens.

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Good luck! Feel free to come back here if you run into any issues during the process.

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If you need help navigating the system or have trouble reaching Washington ESD later, there are resources available. That Claimyr service mentioned earlier can be a real lifesaver when you're stuck in phone tree hell trying to get answers about your claim.

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I'll definitely keep that in mind if I can't get through on my own. Thanks for all the help everyone!

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