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Jamal Anderson

Can you get unemployment when you are fired from your job in Washington state?

I was terminated from my job last week and I'm trying to figure out if I can even apply for unemployment benefits through Washington ESD. My manager said I was let go for 'performance issues' but I feel like it was really just because they needed to cut costs. I've been working there for almost 2 years and never had any formal write-ups or warnings. Does being fired automatically disqualify you from getting UI benefits? I'm really stressed about this because I have rent due next week and I need to know if I should even bother filing a claim.

You can definitely still get unemployment benefits even if you were fired, but it depends on the reason. Washington ESD will look at whether you were terminated for 'misconduct' or not. Performance issues usually aren't considered misconduct unless they involve willful behavior or policy violations.

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That's a relief to hear. What exactly counts as misconduct? I was never written up or anything formal like that.

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Misconduct typically means things like theft, violence, repeated tardiness after warnings, or deliberately violating company policies. Poor performance alone usually doesn't qualify as misconduct.

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File your claim right away! Don't wait. Even if your employer contests it, you should still file immediately. The worst thing you can do is delay because you're worried about eligibility.

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Should I file online or call? I've heard the phone lines are impossible to get through.

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Online is definitely faster. Go to esd.wa.gov and file your initial claim there. You can do it 24/7 and it's much easier than trying to call.

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I went through something similar last year. Got fired for 'not meeting expectations' but it was really just downsizing. I was worried about applying but Washington ESD approved my claim after about 3 weeks. The key is being honest about why you were terminated when you file.

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Did your former employer try to fight it? I'm worried they might contest my claim.

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They didn't contest mine, but even if they do, you still have a good chance if it was really performance-related and not misconduct. I had to provide some documentation during the process but it worked out.

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Is that like a paid service? I'm already worried about money so I don't want to spend more if I don't have to.

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I get the money concern, but honestly it was worth it for me after spending literally hours trying to get through on my own. Sometimes you need to talk to a real person to get things sorted out.

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being fired doesnt automatically disqualify you, i was fired from my last job for being late too many times and still got benefits. it really depends on the circumstances

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Wait, you got benefits after being fired for tardiness? That seems like it would be misconduct.

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they didnt contest it and i guess washington esd didnt consider it serious enough. every case is different i think

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The Washington ESD system is so backwards. They make you jump through hoops even when you're legitimately entitled to benefits. File your claim but be prepared for a potential fight if your employer decides to be difficult about it.

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That's what I'm afraid of. I just want to know if I'll be able to pay my bills.

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Don't let fear stop you from filing. Even if there's a dispute, you might still get benefits while it's being resolved.

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I'm going through adjudication right now after being fired and it's taking forever. Been waiting 5 weeks for a decision. The uncertainty is killing me.

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5 weeks?! That's crazy. How are you managing financially during that time?

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Barely managing. Had to ask family for help. This is exactly why you should file immediately even if you're not sure about eligibility.

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Just to clarify the process - when you file your initial claim, you'll need to provide details about why you were terminated. Be honest and factual. Washington ESD will then contact your former employer to get their side of the story. If there's a dispute, it may go to adjudication where they'll make a determination.

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What kind of details do they want exactly? I don't want to say the wrong thing.

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Just stick to the facts. When you were terminated, what reason you were given, any documentation you have. Don't speculate or add your own interpretations.

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File immediately! I made the mistake of waiting a week after I got fired because I wasn't sure if I qualified. That delayed my whole claim process. Even if you're not sure, filing early protects your claim date.

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Good point. I guess there's no harm in filing and seeing what happens.

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Exactly. The worst they can do is deny it, but if you don't file, you definitely won't get anything.

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I was fired from my job at a restaurant for 'attitude problems' which was total BS. Took 4 weeks but Washington ESD approved my claim. Sometimes employers just say stuff to avoid paying higher unemployment taxes.

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That gives me hope. Did you have to do anything special during the process?

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Just answered their questions honestly when they called for the fact-finding interview. Keep any texts or emails from your employer about the termination.

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The key thing is misconduct vs poor performance. If they fired you for not being fast enough or not meeting sales goals, that's usually not misconduct. If they fired you for stealing or fighting with customers, that would be misconduct.

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Mine was definitely performance related, not anything like theft or violence.

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Then you should be in good shape. Performance issues rarely rise to the level of misconduct that would disqualify you from benefits.

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ugh this whole system is so stressful. i got fired last month and still waiting to hear back about my claim. the anxiety is worse than being unemployed

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I totally get that. The uncertainty is the worst part.

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exactly! like just tell me yes or no so i can figure out my life

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For anyone struggling to get through to Washington ESD by phone, I had success using Claimyr recently. It's a service that handles the calling for you. Saved me hours of frustration and I actually got to speak with an agent who helped resolve my claim issue.

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Someone else mentioned that service too. Might be worth looking into if I run into problems.

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Yeah, their demo video explains it pretty well. Sometimes you just need to talk to a real person to get things moving.

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Don't overthink it. File your claim online, answer the questions truthfully, and let Washington ESD make the determination. You're probably eligible if it was just performance issues.

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You're right. I need to stop stressing and just file already.

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That's the spirit. The sooner you file, the sooner you'll know for sure.

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I remember when I got fired from my previous job it felt like the end of the world but honestly getting on unemployment gave me time to find something better. Don't be ashamed to file for benefits you're entitled to.

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Thanks for the encouragement. I needed to hear that.

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You've got this! Focus on filing your claim and then start your job search. Things will work out.

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IMPORTANT: Make sure you continue filing your weekly claims even if your initial claim is under review. If you're eventually approved, you'll get back pay for those weeks, but only if you filed the weekly claims.

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Good to know! I wouldn't have thought to do that if the claim wasn't approved yet.

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Yeah, it's easy to miss that detail but it's crucial. Keep filing weekly even during adjudication.

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The whole process is designed to discourage people from filing. Don't let that stop you. If you worked and paid into the system, you deserve benefits when you need them.

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You're absolutely right. I've been paying into this system for years.

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Exactly! It's not charity, it's insurance you've been paying for.

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My advice: file today, be honest about the termination reason, keep all your documentation, and don't give up if they initially deny it. Appeals exist for a reason.

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Thank you everyone for all the advice. I'm going to file my claim right now.

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Good luck! Let us know how it goes.

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Just want to add one more thing - if you do run into issues getting through to Washington ESD for any reason, that Claimyr service I mentioned earlier really does work. Sometimes having an actual conversation with an agent can clear up confusion that might take weeks to resolve otherwise.

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I'll definitely keep that in mind. Hopefully I won't need it but good to know the option exists.

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I might need to try that too. Been trying to reach them for days about my own claim.

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Update us when you hear back! These threads are helpful for others going through the same thing.

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Will do! Filed my claim this morning so now I wait. Thanks again everyone for the help and encouragement.

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Fingers crossed for you! Usually takes about 2-3 weeks for a decision if there are no complications.

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Just wanted to add that Washington state's unemployment system is actually more generous than many other states when it comes to fired employees. The burden of proof is on the employer to show misconduct, not on you to prove you weren't at fault. Since you mentioned no formal write-ups or warnings, that works in your favor. Performance issues without progressive discipline rarely qualify as misconduct. File your claim ASAP - you can always appeal if they deny it, but you can't get back those weeks you didn't file for.

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That's really encouraging to hear! I was worried that being fired would automatically count against me, but it sounds like Washington state actually protects workers better than I thought. The fact that I never had any formal warnings or disciplinary action should definitely help my case. I already filed this morning after reading all the advice here, so now I'm just crossing my fingers and waiting. Thanks for pointing out that the burden is on them to prove misconduct - that makes me feel more confident about my chances.

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