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I just wanted to jump in here since I went through this exact same nightmare about 3 months ago! The "Separation from job" upload is absolutely critical - don't ignore it like I did for the first month. My hours got cut from 32/week down to 6-8 hours at my retail job, and I was so confused about what to upload since I didn't have any formal paperwork. What finally worked for me was creating a comprehensive document that included: 1) A detailed timeline of when my hours started getting reduced, 2) Screenshots of my work schedules showing the decline, 3) My last few paystubs clearly showing the dramatic drop in pay, and 4) A written statement explaining how the hour reduction made it impossible to pay rent and basic expenses. The most important thing I learned is that ESD needs to see you had "good cause" for leaving - and significant hour reductions absolutely qualify! They call it "constructive discharge" which basically means your employer made working conditions so bad that any reasonable person would quit. After I uploaded everything, my adjudication was resolved in about 12 days and I was approved. Don't wait like I did - get that documentation uploaded ASAP! The system is frustrating but they really do process claims once they have what they need to make a decision.
Thank you so much for sharing your experience! It's really reassuring to hear from someone who went through almost the exact same situation. 32 hours down to 6-8 is just brutal - I can totally relate to how impossible that makes it to cover basic expenses. I really appreciate you breaking down exactly what you included in your documentation package. The timeline approach seems to be what everyone is recommending, and hearing that yours was resolved in 12 days after uploading gives me a lot of hope. I've been stressed about this for weeks but reading all these success stories is making me feel much more confident about getting through this process. Going to follow your template and get everything submitted this weekend!
I'm dealing with this exact same issue right now! My manufacturing job cut my hours from 40/week down to maybe 15-20 hours over the course of a few months, and I finally had to quit because I couldn't afford my car payment anymore. Like everyone else here, I was totally confused about what to upload for the "Separation from job" requirement. After reading through all these responses, I'm feeling way more confident about what I need to do. I've got my old timesheets saved, some emails with my supervisor about the reduced schedule, and a few text messages where I complained about not getting enough hours. Sounds like creating a detailed timeline with specific dates and including all of this as supporting evidence is the way to go. The "constructive discharge" concept makes so much sense - they basically forced me out by making the job financially unviable. I had no idea that was actually a legitimate reason that ESD recognizes for unemployment eligibility. I've been beating myself up thinking they'd automatically deny me for "voluntarily quitting" but clearly that's not how it works when you can document that your employer made continued employment impossible. Thanks to everyone who shared their experiences and timelines - it's incredibly helpful to see real examples of what worked for other people in similar situations!
I'm sorry this happened to you - it's such a frustrating and stressful situation when you're trying to do the right thing by giving proper notice! Based on everything I've read here, you definitely have a strong case for unemployment benefits. The fact that they used the word "terminated" and escorted you out creates a clear paper trail that this was their decision, not yours. Make sure when you file to emphasize that you gave written notice with the intention of working your full two weeks, but they chose to end your employment immediately instead. This is a textbook case of employer-initiated separation. Good luck with your move to Spokane and your claim!
This is really solid advice! @Isabella Martin, I just wanted to add that you should also document the exact timeline of events - when you submitted your written notice, when they called you in, and when they terminated you. Having those specific dates and times can really strengthen your case if there's any dispute. Also, if there were any witnesses to the termination meeting or anyone who saw you being escorted out, it might be worth noting their names in case you need them later. The whole situation sounds really unprofessional on their part, especially after 3.5 years of good service. You're handling this the right way by filing immediately and keeping good records!
What a terrible way to treat someone after 3.5 years of loyal service! I'm really sorry this happened to you. The silver lining here is that your employer actually did you a favor legally - by terminating you instead of accepting your resignation, they've made you eligible for unemployment benefits. I went through something similar a few years back (gave notice for a new job, got walked out the same day) and ESD approved my claim without any issues. The key things that helped me: 1) I had documentation of my resignation letter, 2) I had their termination notice in writing, and 3) I was very clear in my application that THEY ended my employment, not me. It sounds like you have all of this covered. Don't let their unprofessional behavior discourage you - file that claim tonight and get the benefits you're entitled to!
@Genevieve Cavalier is absolutely right - they actually helped your case by using the word terminated "!"I just wanted to add that you should take screenshots of everything in your eServices account as you go through the process, including your initial application and any correspondence from ESD. Sometimes the system can be glitchy and having your own records can be really helpful if anything gets lost. Also, since you mentioned this might be personal with your manager, be prepared that they might try to claim you had performance issues or something like that when ESD contacts them. Your clean 3.5-year record with no disciplinary actions should protect you there. Stay positive - you did nothing wrong and you re'going to get through this!
I went through this exact same scenario about 6 months ago! My supervisor changed my reported hours from 28 to 35 after I'd already filed my weekly claim, and I was freaking out just like you are. Here's what worked for me: I immediately logged into eServices and used the "Benefit Payment Correction" option (not just general reporting - this is key). I uploaded screenshots of my original timesheet submission, the changed version, and text messages between me and my supervisor about the mix-up. I also wrote a detailed explanation of exactly what happened and when. The good news: it only triggered about a 2-week adjudication period because I was proactive about reporting it myself. They did hold my next payment while reviewing it, but once they saw all my documentation proving it was an honest mistake, they cleared it pretty quickly. I had to pay back the overpayment (about $120 in my case), but no penalties or fraud accusations. The key is acting fast and being totally transparent with all your evidence. Your text messages proving the timeline will be huge in your favor. Don't let this stress you out too much - ESD deals with employer hour changes all the time, and they can usually tell the difference between honest mistakes and intentional fraud.
This is exactly what I needed to hear! Thank you so much for sharing your experience. It's such a relief to know that someone went through the same thing and it worked out okay. I was honestly panicking thinking this would ruin my entire claim. I'm going to follow your advice and get everything documented and submitted today. Knowing it was only 2 weeks for you gives me hope that mine won't drag on forever either.
I'm dealing with something similar right now - my hours got adjusted after I filed too. Reading through everyone's advice here has been super helpful! Just wanted to add that when you upload your text messages as evidence, make sure the timestamps are clearly visible in the screenshots. ESD really cares about being able to see exactly when things happened. Also, if your foreman is willing to help, having him send you an email acknowledging that he changed the hours without notifying you first could be really valuable documentation. Good luck - it sounds like you're handling this the right way by being proactive!
This is exactly why we need better oversight of employer wage reporting! I work in HR and see this kind of mess all the time - companies switch payroll systems, merge with other businesses, or just have undertrained staff who don't understand how to properly categorize employees for state reporting. It shouldn't be the worker's responsibility to fix their employer's mistakes, especially when you're already dealing with the stress of being laid off. For anyone else reading this who might face similar issues: always keep your own records! Save your paystubs, timesheets, and any employment documentation. The state systems rely entirely on what employers report, but employers make mistakes constantly. Having your own paper trail makes the wage investigation process much smoother. Great job persisting through this @NeonNova - 2-3 weeks is actually pretty fast for ESD to resolve wage investigations from what I've seen!
This is such good advice! I wish someone had told me to keep detailed records when I first started working. I'm definitely going to start saving all my paystubs and timesheets from now on. It's crazy that we have to basically audit our own employers just to make sure we get what we're owed if something happens. Thanks for the HR perspective on this - it really helps to understand why these mistakes happen so often!
Just wanted to add another tip for anyone dealing with this - if you're having trouble getting through to ESD even with the calling services, try reaching out to your local WorkSource office. They often have direct lines to ESD specialists and can help advocate for you or even initiate the wage investigation on your behalf. I had a friend who got her issue resolved in just a few days by going through WorkSource instead of trying to navigate ESD directly. They're way more helpful and actually understand how frustrating the system can be!
That's a great suggestion! I had no idea WorkSource could help with wage investigations like that. I'm definitely going to remember this for future reference - it sounds like they might be less overwhelmed than the main ESD phone lines. Do you know if all WorkSource locations offer this kind of help, or is it something you have to specifically ask for? I feel like this kind of information should be more widely known since so many people seem to struggle with getting through to ESD directly.
Noah Irving
I went through something similar a few months ago. The key thing to remember is that Washington ESD actually wants you to decline unsuitable work - that's why the suitable work criteria exist in the first place. A 40% pay cut would almost certainly qualify as unsuitable, especially if you're only 2 months into your claim. When you file your weekly claim, just answer honestly that you declined an offer and briefly note it was due to significantly below-market compensation. Keep all the documentation from the employer including the salary details. I was worried about the same thing but my caseworker actually thanked me for being thorough with my documentation when I eventually spoke with them.
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Chloe Delgado
•This is really helpful to hear from someone who went through the exact same situation! It's reassuring that your caseworker was actually supportive of you documenting everything properly. I think I was overthinking this whole thing and getting stressed about it when really the system is designed to protect people from having to take inappropriate jobs. Thanks for sharing your experience - it makes me feel much more confident about handling this the right way.
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Harper Hill
•That's exactly what I needed to hear! I was getting really anxious about this whole situation, but you're right - the system is actually designed to protect us from taking jobs that aren't appropriate. The fact that your caseworker was supportive really gives me confidence that I'm approaching this correctly. I'll definitely keep all the documentation about the low salary offer and be straightforward about it on my weekly claim. Thanks for taking the time to share your experience - it really helps to know someone else went through the same thing successfully!
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Sean O'Donnell
I'm new to unemployment benefits and this thread has been incredibly helpful! I'm in a similar situation where I might need to turn down offers that don't match my previous role. Reading through everyone's experiences, it sounds like the main takeaway is to be completely transparent on your weekly claims and document everything thoroughly. The fact that Washington ESD has specific "suitable work" criteria actually gives me more confidence that they're not trying to force people into inappropriate jobs. Thanks to everyone who shared their knowledge here - it's so valuable to have a community where people can get real answers about these complicated situations!
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Nia Harris
•Welcome to the community! You're absolutely right that transparency and documentation are key. I went through a similar learning curve when I first started receiving benefits. One thing I'd add is that the suitable work criteria actually become more flexible in your favor during the first few months of your claim - they understand you need time to find appropriate work in your field. Don't hesitate to ask questions here if you run into any confusing situations. This community has been a lifesaver for navigating the complexities of the unemployment system!
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