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I've been receiving SSDI since 2015 (severe neurological condition affecting cognitive function). My current benefit is about $2,948 monthly before Medicare deductions. I'm 56 years old now. My situation is a bit complicated. I married my husband in June 2021, and he just turned 62 last month. He's a high-income earner (around $225,000 annually) and has maxed out his Social Security contributions for most of his career. I'm trying to understand what happens with MY benefits when HE decides to file for Social Security. If he delays until 70 for maximum benefits, would I be eligible to receive any spousal benefits on top of my disability? I've heard conflicting things about the 50% spousal benefit and whether it applies when someone is already on SSDI. Does anyone know if I'd qualify for any additional amount as his spouse once he files? Sorry if this is confusing - my memory issues make these complicated rules hard to follow sometimes.
I'm debating whether to take SS benefits at 62 next month or wait until later. My situation is complicated and I'd love some feedback. If I file now, I'd receive about $2,100/month versus around $3,000 if I waited until my FRA of 67. The wrinkle is my wife is significantly younger (16 years) and makes nearly $190,000 annually as a hospital administrator. We also have a 7-year-old son who would qualify for benefits until he's 18. Health is another factor - I was diagnosed with stage 2 lymphoma last year. Treatment has gone well and doctors are optimistic, but I'll need regular screenings indefinitely. I'm working part-time at a hardware store (about 25 hours weekly) and plan to continue. I'm leaning toward filing early because: 1) My son could receive benefits for 11 years 2) My health situation, while stable, creates some uncertainty 3) My wife's earnings provide financial security regardless. Am I missing anything important in my thinking? Has anyone been in a similar situation with the younger spouse/child benefits scenario? Any perspective would be greatly appreciated!
After reading all the comments and your responses, it seems like filing at 62 might make sense in your specific situation. The child benefits alone could total well over $100,000 over the 11 years. Just be absolutely sure both you and your wife fully understand the long-term implications for survivor benefits. One resource I recommend is the book "Social Security Made Simple" by Mike Piper. It's very accessible and covers these complex situations well. You might also consider consulting with a financial advisor who specializes in Social Security strategies before making your final decision.
I just discovered I'm being penalized on my Social Security spousal benefits because of the Windfall Elimination Provision (WEP) and I'm absolutely devastated. After dedicating 20+ years raising our children, I finally started working at age 60 for a school district with a non-SS-covered pension (403b). I worked there until 66 when I retired to help with my daughter's twins.When I applied for spousal benefits last year (I'm now 73), Social Security slashed my monthly payment by TWO-THIRDS because of this WEP rule! Meanwhile, coworkers who stayed 5 more years with the district got switched to a different retirement plan that doesn't trigger WEP. Some colleagues even transferred their 403b funds elsewhere before claiming SS and avoided the penalty completely.I delayed taking my pension until 72 hoping this would get fixed, but SSA says this reduction continues FOR LIFE even though my modest pension will likely run out in 10-12 years. I'll be getting around $870/month instead of $2,450 because of this provision I never knew existed!Has anyone successfully fought this? Is there any appeal process or exception I can apply for? Any advice would be greatly appreciated!
To address your question about what happens when your pension runs out: Under GPO rules, if your pension stops, the offset should stop as well. This is different from WEP, which generally continues even if your pension ends.When your pension payments end, you need to notify SSA immediately with proof that you're no longer receiving the pension. At that point, they should recalculate your spousal benefits without the GPO reduction. Make sure to keep documentation showing your pension has ended.If your pension is paid as a lump sum rather than monthly payments, SSA will calculate what the monthly amount would have been and apply the offset as if you were receiving monthly payments. Regarding your 403b specifically - some confusion might exist because 403b plans can be structured different ways. If your 403b was truly a pension from non-covered employment (no SS taxes paid), then GPO applies. But if it was more like a savings plan similar to a 401k where you contributed your own money, different rules might apply.This is definitely worth reviewing with SSA to ensure they've categorized your retirement plan correctly.
Thank you SO much for this information! This gives me some hope that at least when my pension runs out, I might get my full spousal benefit. I'll definitely keep documentation about when my pension ends.And you've given me another avenue to explore - my 403b was partly my contributions and partly employer contributions. I need to verify if SSA is treating it correctly. I'll gather all my pension documentation before calling them.I can't thank everyone enough for all this guidance. I feel much better equipped to address this situation now.
My husband (68) wants to delay claiming Social Security until 70 to maximize his benefit, but he's willing to step back from his high-stress job and work part-time at a much lower wage for the next two years. I'm worried this might actually hurt his SS benefit calculation. Will those last two years of lower earnings reduce what he'd get at 70? I'm also confused about something an SSA rep mentioned about a "35 year calculation" and "highest earning years." She said something about how they use your top 35 years and there was a 3-year something-or-other that I couldn't follow. Another concern: If he passes away before reaching 70 without filing, would my survivor benefit be based on what he would have received at FRA? Or is it based on what he actually filed for? Different people have told us different things. We're in Alabama and getting pretty stressed about making the right decision. I'd appreciate hearing from anyone who's navigated this successfully. We're planning to meet with a financial advisor, but I want to understand the basics first so I don't feel completely lost during the meeting.
I was in a similar boat to u last year & honestly the BEST thing we did was just schedule an appointment at our local SSA office. My husband & I brought all our questions written down & the rep walked us thru everything step by step. Took about an hour but so worth it! Just be prepared for a long wait to get an appointment (took us like 3 weeks).
That's a great suggestion! In-person appointments can be really helpful for complex situations. If you're having trouble getting an appointment, that's where services like Claimyr can help - they can connect you with an SSA representative over the phone much faster than waiting on hold yourself. But an in-person appointment is definitely worth the wait if you can get one.
make sure u look at the tax situation too bc sometimes waiting doesnt help if ur gonna pay more taxes on the bigger benefit its all about whats left after taxes
While tax considerations are important, they rarely outweigh the benefit of delaying Social Security for a higher-earning spouse. The permanent 8% per year increase in benefits (plus COLAs on that larger amount) typically overshadows any tax differences. Plus, survivor benefits are a critical factor - ensuring the surviving spouse gets the highest possible benefit for life is usually worth potential tax implications. That said, a comprehensive financial plan should absolutely include tax planning.
I started collecting Social Security when I was 63 (about 8 months ago), but I'm still working part-time. My current income is much lower than what I earned during my top 35 years that SSA used to calculate my benefit. I'm wondering what happens to the SS taxes I'm still paying from my paychecks? Does SSA recalculate my benefit amount each year based on new earnings? Do these contributions just disappear? Will I ever see any benefit from the money I'm still paying into the system or am I basically throwing money away at this point?
just another way the govt takes our money. they should stop taxing retirement age people completey imo
One more thing to consider: Even though your continued contributions might not increase your monthly benefit, they're still supporting the overall Social Security system that you and others rely on. The system is designed so current workers support current beneficiaries, so your contributions are helping sustain benefits for everyone in the program.
Keisha Jackson
Just to add to whats already been said - I know with my parents situation my mom gets a small "top off" because her own SS benefit was really low compared to my dads. But thats only because her own benefit was tiny. From what your saying your SSDI is already pretty high so you probably wont get anything extra when he files.
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Dmitry Ivanov
AuthorThat makes sense - thanks for sharing your parents' experience. Seems like the consensus is I'll just continue with my current benefit since it's relatively high.
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Yara Nassar
There's a key point I want to clarify here. When your husband files for Social Security retirement benefits (whether at FRA or age 70), you could be eligible for auxiliary benefits as his spouse. However, the maximum spousal benefit is 50% of his PIA (Primary Insurance Amount) at his Full Retirement Age. Since you're already receiving your own SSDI benefit of $2,948/month, you would only receive additional spousal benefits if 50% of your husband's PIA exceeds your current SSDI amount. For high earners reaching the maximum Social Security wage base ($168,600 in 2024, higher in future years), the maximum PIA for someone reaching FRA in 2024 is approximately $3,822. Half of that would be $1,911 - still less than your current benefit. Even with your husband's high income and maximum contributions, it's unlikely that 50% of his PIA would exceed your current SSDI benefit. Therefore, your benefit amount would likely remain unchanged when he files.
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Dmitry Ivanov
AuthorThank you for breaking this down with the actual numbers! That really helps clarify. Since my SSDI is $2,948 and even half of the maximum possible PIA would be less than that, it sounds like I'll just continue receiving my current benefit regardless of when my husband files. I appreciate the detailed explanation.
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