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wait i just remembered something. my brother also had to deal with this with his wifes check. he said if u cant get a fixed 1099 in time for taxes theres a line on form 1040 somewhere to put "repaid social security benefits" or something. maybe someone who knows more can explain better. but there IS a way to fix it on tax forms if SS is being slow about sending new 1099

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Your brother is partially correct. If the benefits were received and repaid in the same year (as in OP's case), the corrected 1099 is the proper solution. If benefits were repaid in a different year than received, then you'd use the line 7 on Schedule A for "Repayment of income reported in an earlier year" if over $3,000, or as a miscellaneous itemized deduction subject to the 2% floor if under $3,000. But since OP's situation is same-year, a corrected 1099 is the right approach.

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Thank you all so much for the helpful advice! I'm going to try calling the SSA tomorrow morning as soon as they open to request a corrected 1099-SSA. I've gathered all my documentation - the original deposit receipt, bank statement showing the repayment check cleared, and the letter I received from SSA acknowledging the repayment. If I can't get through by phone, I'll try making an appointment at my local office. And I'll definitely check out that Claimyr service if I keep having trouble reaching someone. I really appreciate everyone sharing their experiences. It helps to know I'm not alone in dealing with this confusing situation.

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I think its dumb that they even have a limit. We paid into this our whole lives and then they dont let us work?? Makes no sense!!

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It does seem counterproductive. They want seniors to stay active but then penalize us if we work too much before FRA. At least the limit goes away completely once you reach full retirement age.

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Thank you all for the incredibly helpful information! I've taken notes on everything: - We'll use the monthly earnings test for 2025 - Request this specifically when applying - His $50k from Jan-May won't count as long as he stays under the monthly limit after starting benefits - Make sure he doesn't exceed the monthly limit even once or they'll switch to annual test - Keep documentation of his retirement This is such a relief - we were worried we'd lose thousands in benefits. I'll update after we apply to let everyone know how it goes!

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Smart planning! One more tip: when your husband applies, get the name and direct extension of the claims representative who handles his application. This makes follow-up much easier if there are any issues with how the monthly earnings test is applied.

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One more important thing: if your ex-spouse remarried but you haven't, you can still claim on their record. Your benefit claim has no effect on what your ex-spouse or their current spouse receives. Many people don't realize this and avoid claiming divorced spouse benefits unnecessarily.

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That's good to know. My ex did remarry about 10 years ago, but I never did. I was worried that might affect eligibility somehow. You've all been so helpful in clearing up my misconceptions!

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WAIT does anyone know if this applies the same way for survivor benefits?? My mom's ex-husband died last year and they were married 30 years before divorcing in 2011. Can she get HER social security AND survivor benefits from him??? Now im confused if the rules are different for survivors vs regular retirement!!!

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Survivor benefits have different rules than divorced spouse benefits. With survivor benefits (including divorced survivor benefits), your mom can actually receive her own retirement benefit AND a partial survivor benefit if she's at full retirement age. Or she could take one first and switch to the other later depending on which maximizes her overall benefits. She should definitely contact SSA about this specific situation because survivor benefits offer more flexibility.

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my brother in law said the limit is goin up to like $175k next year does anyone know if thats true?

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The 2025 wage base limit hasn't been officially announced yet. The SSA typically announces the new limit in October of the preceding year, so we should know the 2025 limit around October 2024. Your brother-in-law's estimate of $175k is reasonably close to what we might expect based on recent increases, but it's just a projection at this point.

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Just curious - isn't it kind of unfair that we pay into the system but once you reach a certain income they stop counting it? I mean if I pay more shouldn't I get more out?

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It's a common question! The system was designed as social insurance with some wealth redistribution built in. Higher earners do get higher benefits than lower earners, but not proportionally higher. Here's an example: someone earning the maximum taxable amount their entire career might get a monthly benefit around $3,800 at full retirement age, while someone earning half as much might get around $2,400. So the high earner paid twice as much in taxes but doesn't get twice the benefit. The philosophical argument is that Social Security ensures a basic standard of living in retirement for all workers, not a direct savings account. But people definitely have different opinions about whether that's fair or not!

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wait i just realized my situation isnt the same as yours cause my wife gets SSI not SSDI sorry bout that! but i still think taking it early makes sense with what ur saying

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Just to clarify for anyone reading this thread: SSI (Supplemental Security Income) and SSDI (Social Security Disability Insurance) have different rules regarding survivor benefits. SSI is needs-based and doesn't generate survivor benefits, while SSDI is based on work credits and does provide survivor benefits. This is why it's so important to understand which benefit type you're dealing with when making these decisions.

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My friend said she called and the SS people told her she should ALWAYS wait until FRA if possible. Are you SURE this is the right move?

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There's no one-size-fits-all answer with Social Security. While waiting until FRA maximizes that particular benefit, personal circumstances matter enormously. In the original poster's case, with a spouse on SSDI, limited working years, and the option to switch to survivor benefits later, taking reduced benefits at 62 may align with their specific financial situation and goals. This is why personalized analysis is so important rather than general rules of thumb.

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