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To simplify what's been said and clarify a key point: if you wait until August 2025 (your FRA month) to START collecting Social Security benefits, then: 1. Your January-July 2025 earnings won't affect your benefits at all, regardless of amount 2. From August onward, you can earn unlimited income with no benefit reduction The earnings test only applies when you're actually receiving benefits before FRA. Since you're planning to start benefits exactly at your FRA month, the earnings test essentially doesn't apply to your situation at all. This is one of the advantages of waiting until exactly your FRA month to start benefits.
Just wanted to add one more consideration for your consulting work - make sure you're properly set up for self-employment taxes! Since you'll be earning $3k+ monthly from consulting, you'll likely need to make quarterly estimated tax payments to avoid penalties. The IRS generally expects payments if you'll owe $1,000 or more in taxes. Also, don't forget that as a consultant you'll be paying both the employer and employee portions of Social Security and Medicare taxes (15.3% total), though you can deduct half of this on your tax return. This is separate from the Social Security earnings test discussion but important for your overall financial planning. Good luck with the transition to consulting - sounds like you've got the Social Security timing figured out perfectly!
This is such helpful advice! I hadn't really thought through all the self-employment tax implications yet. Since I'm used to having taxes automatically withheld from my corporate salary, the quarterly payments will definitely be a new process for me. Do you happen to know if there are any good resources for first-time consultants to figure out the estimated payment amounts? I want to make sure I don't get hit with penalties in my first year of consulting.
Thank you for the kind words! You're absolutely right - health comes first. I hope your husband is doing well now after his surgery.
I'm sorry to hear about your heart issues, but you're asking all the right questions. Based on what others have shared here, it sounds like withdrawing your application is definitely feasible since you're well within the 12-month window and haven't received payments yet. The once-in-a-lifetime restriction is something I wasn't aware of either - that's crucial information that makes this decision more significant. Given your medical situation and the substantial treatment costs you're facing, it might make sense to withdraw now, focus on your health, and potentially reapply closer to your FRA when you'd get higher monthly benefits. The 8% delayed retirement credits mentioned earlier could really add up, especially if you're looking at ongoing medical expenses where a higher monthly payment would be beneficial. Have you calculated what your benefit amount would be at 67 versus what you'd get now at 64? That comparison might help inform your decision.
That's excellent advice about calculating the benefit difference! I hadn't thought to run those numbers yet. With my FRA at 67, waiting 3 more years would give me those delayed retirement credits plus potentially higher earnings to factor into my top 35 years. Given that I'm dealing with a chronic condition that will require ongoing treatment, having a higher monthly benefit long-term seems like it would be worth the short-term sacrifice. Do you happen to know if there are any online calculators that can help estimate the difference, or should I request a benefit statement from SSA directly?
As someone who went through this exact situation two years ago, I can confirm what others have said - the monthly test only applies in your first year of benefits. The key is being proactive about reporting. I kept a simple spreadsheet tracking my monthly earnings projections and would call SSA by the 15th of any month I expected to exceed the limit. Yes, getting through is a pain, but it's way better than dealing with overpayment notices later. One tip: SSA considers when you EARN the income, not when you receive payment. So if you close a real estate deal in March but don't get paid until April, it counts toward March's earnings limit. This tripped me up initially. Also, keep detailed records of all your transactions and communications with SSA. You'll need them for tax time and potentially for any disputes. The system is confusing but manageable once you understand the rules.
Thank you for the practical advice! The point about when income is EARNED vs when it's RECEIVED is huge - I hadn't thought about that distinction. As a real estate agent, there's often weeks between closing and getting paid. So if I close a big deal on March 30th but don't get my commission until April 5th, that still counts toward March's limit? That could really mess up my monthly tracking if I'm not careful about it.
This thread has been incredibly helpful! I'm in a similar situation - started collecting at 62 last year and work freelance graphic design with very unpredictable income. One thing I learned the hard way: SSA also counts estimated quarterly tax payments as part of determining your monthly earnings for self-employment income. So if you pay estimated taxes in January for Q4 of the previous year, they might allocate some of that income to January even though you actually earned it months earlier. I'd recommend setting up a my Social Security account online if you haven't already. You can report work activity changes there without having to call, and it keeps a record of what you've reported. It's been a lifesaver for managing my variable income reporting. Also, real estate commissions can be tricky because of when deals close vs when you actually did the work. I'd suggest tracking both the date you earned the commission (contract signing/deal completion) AND when you receive payment, just to be safe when reporting to SSA.
Just wanted to add another perspective here - I work as a benefits coordinator and see this situation frequently. The deeming rules can be really harsh, especially for guardians who step up to care for disabled children. A few additional things to keep in mind: 1. The deeming calculation uses a specific formula that subtracts allowances for you, your spouse, and your other children before applying the deemed amount to your niece's case. 2. If your niece has her own income (like from a special needs trust or other sources), that gets factored in too. 3. Sometimes there's a delay in SSA updating their records about household composition changes, which can affect the calculation. I'd strongly recommend getting that detailed breakdown others mentioned, and also consider consulting with a disability attorney who specializes in SSI cases if the numbers still don't make sense. Many offer free consultations and can spot calculation errors that might not be obvious to us non-experts. Your niece is lucky to have someone advocating for her - don't give up if something seems off with the math!
Thank you so much for this detailed breakdown! As someone new to navigating SSI, this is exactly the kind of information I needed. I had no idea there were specific allowances built into the formula or that household composition changes could cause delays in updates. I'm definitely going to pursue getting that detailed calculation breakdown, and the suggestion about consulting with a disability attorney is really helpful too. It's reassuring to know that calculation errors do happen and can be corrected. I really appreciate you taking the time to share your professional perspective - it gives me hope that we can get this sorted out properly.
I went through something very similar when I became guardian of my nephew last year. The deeming calculation is incredibly frustrating because it assumes you have more disposable income than you actually do after taking on a disabled child's care. What really helped me was creating a detailed monthly budget showing all of his disability-related expenses - not just medical copays, but things like specialized equipment, transportation to appointments, respite care, etc. When I presented this to SSA along with requesting the calculation breakdown, they found they had missed some exclusions. Also, don't forget that as his guardian, you might be able to claim him as a dependent on your taxes and potentially qualify for certain credits that could help offset the reduced SSI payment. The system is definitely not set up well for guardianship situations, but keep advocating - there might be more room to work with the numbers than it initially appears.
QuantumQuasar
Based on what you've described, your best strategy is likely to focus on your own benefit. Since it will be higher than your potential spousal benefit (50% of your husband's FRA amount), you'll want to consider whether to take your own benefit early at 62 (with a permanent reduction) or wait until your Full Retirement Age (67) or even age 70 (for maximum benefits). Each year you delay claiming from 62 to 70 increases your benefit by approximately 8%, which is a guaranteed return that's hard to beat elsewhere. But of course, that depends on your health, financial needs, and other retirement income sources. And as others mentioned, definitely account for any potential WEP/GPO impacts in your calculations.
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Miguel Ramos
•This makes sense - thank you for laying it out so clearly! I think I understand the rules better now. I was confused about the survivor vs. spousal benefits and what age applies to each. Sounds like my best bet is to just focus on maximizing my own benefit since it will be higher than any spousal benefit I could receive. I appreciate everyone's help!
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Lucas Notre-Dame
One thing I haven't seen mentioned yet is that you might want to look into whether your husband has enough quarters of coverage under Social Security to even qualify for benefits. Since he's been primarily in a teaching system that doesn't pay into SS, he may not have the required 40 quarters (10 years) of covered employment to be eligible for Social Security benefits at all. If he doesn't qualify for his own SS benefit, then there wouldn't be any spousal benefit for you to claim from his record anyway. You'd only be eligible for survivor benefits if he passes away and had enough work credits. This could actually simplify your planning since you'd just focus entirely on optimizing your own benefit timing. You can check his coverage by looking at his Social Security Statement online - it will show exactly how many quarters he has earned under the SS system.
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Aaron Lee
•That's a really good point I hadn't considered! You're absolutely right - if he doesn't have the 40 quarters, there wouldn't be any spousal benefits available from his record anyway. That would definitely simplify things. I'll make sure to check his SS statement to see exactly how many quarters he's earned. Thanks for bringing this up - it could save me a lot of unnecessary planning around benefits that might not even exist!
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