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Jay Lincoln

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Update: Just received my letter in the mail today explaining the COLA adjustment! It says my first increased payment will be on the 4th Wednesday of this month, and the lump sum for retroactive adjustments will come within 10 business days after that. Going to mark my calendar and stop worrying. Thanks everyone for the helpful info!

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Glad to hear you got your letter! The SSA is actually pretty consistent with their payment schedules once you understand how they work. The retroactive lump sum payments sometimes arrive faster than they promise too, so you might see it sooner.

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PixelWarrior

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Just wanted to share my experience for anyone still waiting - I'm also on the 4th Wednesday payment schedule and haven't received mine yet, but after reading all these responses I'm feeling much more confident about the timeline. It's really helpful to see that the SSA website doesn't update right away and that the money often shows up before any letters. I've been checking my bank account obsessively but now I know to just wait for my regular payment date. Thanks to everyone who shared their experiences and especially to those who provided the official schedule breakdown - this community is so valuable for getting real information when the official channels are hard to reach!

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Amara Nnamani

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just to clarify I said 2023/2024 earlier but I mean't 2022/2023... I have covid brain fog today lol

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Amun-Ra Azra

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As someone who went through this exact same decision process a few years ago, I can confirm what others have said - there's absolutely no automatic enrollment at any age. I was so paranoid about it that I actually printed out SSA's official guidance just to have it on hand! One thing I'd add to the excellent Roth conversion advice already given: consider doing "practice runs" with smaller conversion amounts in your first year to see how it affects your overall tax situation. I learned this the hard way when I did a larger conversion than planned and it pushed me into a higher bracket than I anticipated. Also, since you mentioned you're turning 62 in December, that gives you almost a full year to fine-tune your conversion strategy for 2025. Perfect timing to work with a tax professional to map out multi-year projections before you start the conversions.

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Luca Greco

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I'm dealing with a similar situation and wanted to share what I've learned from my research and speaking with SSA representatives. The key thing to understand is that there are really two separate calculations happening here: 1. Your son's DAC benefit amount (50% of your husband's PIA - this doesn't change based on when your husband files) 2. The Family Maximum Benefit limits that could reduce everyone's payments From what I've gathered, if your husband is the only one receiving benefits on his record initially, the family maximum won't be an issue. But once your son starts receiving DAC benefits, the combined payments might hit that ceiling, especially if your husband took reduced benefits early. One thing I haven't seen mentioned yet - consider whether your earnings record might provide better benefits for your son than your husband's. DAC benefits can be claimed on either parent's record, so it's worth having SSA calculate both scenarios. Also, regarding timing - your son can potentially start receiving DAC benefits as soon as your husband begins receiving retirement benefits, assuming he meets the disability requirements and has the proper documentation. The age 18/22 confusion often comes from mixing up DAC benefits with student benefits or other programs. Definitely start gathering all medical documentation now and consider that SSI application to establish the disability determination!

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Tyrone Hill

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This is really comprehensive advice, thank you! I hadn't thought about comparing my earnings record to my husband's for potential DAC benefits - that's definitely something we need to look into. My work history might actually be stronger than his in some years. The point about the family maximum only becoming an issue once multiple people are drawing benefits makes sense too. Right now it would just be my husband, but once our son qualifies, that's when we'd need to worry about hitting that ceiling. I'm definitely going to start that SSI application process soon. It sounds like establishing the disability determination early is crucial, even if he doesn't qualify for payments right now due to our income. Better to have that documentation ready than scramble later!

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I'm a newcomer to this community but have been researching this exact situation for my own family. Reading through all these responses has been incredibly helpful! One thing I want to emphasize that several people have touched on - the timing of starting the disability application process is critical. Even though your son is only 17, beginning the SSI application now can establish that crucial disability determination before he turns 18. This creates a paper trail that will be invaluable when applying for DAC benefits later. From what I've learned, the Social Security Administration requires extensive medical documentation proving the disability began before age 22. Having that SSI application in process (even if denied due to family income) creates an official record of the disability evaluation that can streamline future DAC applications. Also, I noticed someone mentioned considering both parents' earnings records for potential DAC benefits - this is huge! Many families don't realize they can choose which parent's record provides better benefits for their disabled adult child. Definitely have SSA run calculations for both scenarios. The complexity of how early retirement affects family maximum benefits seems to vary case by case, so getting those personalized calculations from SSA will be essential for your decision-making process. Good luck navigating this - it's overwhelming but you're asking all the right questions!

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Zainab Omar

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Welcome to the community! Your summary really captures all the key points from this discussion perfectly. I'm in a similar boat as the original poster and this thread has been a goldmine of information. The timing aspect you mentioned about starting the SSI application at 17 is something I wish I had known earlier. It makes so much sense to get that disability determination process rolling before the 18th birthday cutoff, even if the family income is too high for actual SSI payments. I'm curious - when you say you've been researching this for your own family, have you found any good resources beyond the SSA website? The official materials seem to assume you already understand all the terminology and calculations. Some of the explanations here from community members have been clearer than anything I've found on government sites! Also wondering if anyone has experience with how long it typically takes to get an in-person appointment with SSA these days? I know wait times have been pretty brutal post-pandemic.

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Just to clarify one point - Social Security sends an SSA-1099 form, not a W-2. The SSA-1099 shows your benefits in Box 3 (total amount) and Box 5 (net amount after deductions). For most people, the difference between these amounts is their Medicare Part B premium. This is just how the tax system is structured. The IRS views the full benefit as being paid to you, and then you paying Medicare separately, even though it was automatically deducted. Unfortunately, you can't get a corrected form because the current one is technically correct according to IRS rules.

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Arjun Patel

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You're right - it is the SSA-1099 form, not a W-2. I misspoke in my original post. Thanks for the correction and explanation, even if I don't like the answer!

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Tasia Synder

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I'm new to Medicare and Social Security benefits, and this thread has been really eye-opening! I had no idea that Medicare premiums would be treated this way on tax forms. It does seem counterintuitive that we'd pay taxes on money we never actually received in our bank accounts. Reading through everyone's experiences, it sounds like this is just how the system works, even if it feels unfair. I appreciate all the explanations about the SSA-1099 form and the difference between Box 3 and Box 5 amounts. For those of us who are frustrated by this, has anyone had success advocating for changes to this policy through their representatives? Or is this just something we have to accept as part of how Social Security and Medicare interact with the tax system?

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Lucy Lam

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Welcome to the wonderful world of Medicare and Social Security taxes! 😅 I've been dealing with this for a few years now and like everyone else here, I was completely confused at first. From what I've learned lurking in various forums and talking to other retirees, writing to representatives hasn't yielded much success. The tax code treats this as "constructive receipt" - basically the government says you "constructively" received the full benefit amount even though Medicare took their cut before it hit your bank account. I think the frustration comes from the fact that most of us worked for decades paying into Social Security, expecting it to work one way, only to discover these quirky rules when we actually start receiving benefits. But unfortunately, this seems to be deeply embedded in how the IRS and SSA systems interact, so I doubt we'll see changes anytime soon. The silver lining is that at least we're all in the same boat - misery loves company, right? And threads like this help newcomers like you (and me when I started) understand what's happening instead of panicking about "errors" on our forms.

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Nia Thompson

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I work in payroll administration and see this issue fairly often. What likely happened is that your employer submitted your W-2 information to SSA with either a transposed digit in your SSN or a slight name variation that prevented the automated matching system from crediting the earnings to your record. The SSA rep can see the "unmatched" wage data in their system - it's there, but it's essentially in limbo because the computer couldn't definitively match it to your specific earnings record. This is why she could tell you the employers and earnings amount but it's not showing up in your official record. For $11K from 1999, honestly it's probably not worth the paperwork hassle unless you're close to retirement and every dollar counts. The indexed value of those earnings for benefit calculation purposes would be relatively small compared to your more recent work years. If you're curious about the exact process, you could always request a detailed earnings inquiry from SSA, but based on what you've described, this sounds like a classic case of employer reporting error that created an unmatched record.

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This is such a helpful explanation from someone who actually works with these systems! The "unmatched wage data in limbo" concept makes perfect sense - it explains why the rep could see all the details but it wasn't officially counted. I really appreciate everyone's insights on this thread. It's fascinating how common this issue apparently is, and now I understand the mechanics behind it. Definitely not worth pursuing for such an old, relatively small amount.

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I had a similar issue with missing earnings from 2003! When I called SSA about it, the representative could see my employer information and even knew how much I made that year, but it wasn't showing up in my actual earnings record. She explained that sometimes the IRS data and SSA records don't sync properly due to reporting errors. In my case, it turned out my employer had submitted my W-2 with one digit wrong in my Social Security number. The earnings were sitting in SSA's system as "unmatched" - they had the data but couldn't link it to my record because of the SSN mismatch. I ended up fixing mine because I was worried about qualifying for disability benefits at the time, but it took about 6 months and a lot of paperwork. For your situation with $11K from 1999, the rep is probably right that it won't significantly impact your benefits. Those older earnings get indexed for inflation, but they're still relatively small compared to what you'd earn in more recent years. The fact that she mentioned employers from different years makes sense too - they're probably looking at a screen that shows multiple years of tax data all at once.

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Mei Chen

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This is exactly what I was experiencing! Thank you for sharing your story - it's reassuring to know this SSN mismatch issue is more common than I thought. Six months of paperwork sounds like a lot of work, but I can understand why you'd want to fix it if you were concerned about disability eligibility. It's interesting that you mention the reps looking at screens with multiple years of data - that definitely explains why she was reading off employers from different time periods. I'm feeling more confident about just leaving this alone since it's such an old, small amount. Really appreciate everyone's insights on this thread!

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