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I started collecting SS retirement benefits last year when I turned 62. I'm still running my small consulting business, and I just realized I went over the earnings limit for 2024. Not by much, maybe $1,500 over the limit, but still over. I'm confused about how self-employment income is calculated for the earnings test. Is it my net profit after expenses? Gross income? I've heard different things, and the SSA website isn't very clear. Also, what's the earnings limit for 2025 when I turn 64? I need to plan better so I don't get hit with an overpayment notice. Anyone dealt with this self-employment situation before?
I just got approved for my own Social Security retirement in March, but then found out I qualify for my late husband's survivor benefits too! The problem is I can't find his social security number ANYWHERE. We've been divorced since 2011 (he passed in 2019) and I've moved twice since then. The SSA rep mentioned something about retroactive benefits going back 6 months from my application date (I applied in January 2025). Has anyone dealt with this? How can I get his SSN without having to hunt through decades of paperwork? Would the SSA office already have it on file somewhere since we were married for 22 years?
u might try county records office where u got married they can give u copy of marriage license. also check old tax returns that's how my aunt found my uncles ssn
Just wanted to add my experience - I was in a very similar situation when my ex-husband passed. We'd been divorced for years and I had no idea where any of his paperwork was. The SSA office was actually really helpful once I got there. They were able to locate his record using just his full name, date of birth, and our marriage date. I brought my driver's license, our marriage certificate, and his death certificate. The whole process took about 45 minutes once I got called back (the wait was longer than the actual appointment!). Don't stress too much about having his exact SSN - they have ways to work around that. Good luck with your application!
I'm in a panic trying to help my sister. She's been on SSDI for 3 years due to her severe rheumatoid arthritis and just got her monthly payment cut from $1,850 to about $1,230 (almost 1/3 reduction!). When I called with her, the SSA rep said it's because they found out she moved in with our elderly mother 4 months ago to help care for her after mom's hip surgery. Apparently this changed her "living arrangement" status and they're saying something about "in-kind support and maintenance." Mom doesn't charge her rent, just asks for help with groceries sometimes. My sister literally cannot work and this cut is devastating her budget. She was barely making ends meet before. Is there ANY way to appeal this? Can they really slash her benefits just because she's helping care for our mom? The notification letter is full of jargon I don't understand.
We didn't need the agreement notarized - just signed by both parties with the date. As for taxes, my accountant had me report it as rental income, but there were offsetting expenses (utilities, home repairs, etc.) so it didn't affect our tax situation much. Your mom should probably consult with a tax professional about her specific situation, though.
Good luck with your appointment! I went through something similar with my dad's SSI when he moved in with us after his stroke. One thing that really helped was bringing a calculator to the meeting to show exactly how we split expenses. We calculated total monthly costs (property tax ÷ 12, average utilities, groceries, etc.) and divided by the number of adults in the household. Having those numbers ready made the conversation go much smoother. Also, don't let them intimidate you - you have the right to ask questions and get clear explanations of their decisions. The caseworker we dealt with was actually pretty helpful once we showed we were serious about following the rules properly.
I'm trying to help my elderly friend (72) with her Social Security matters but keep hitting roadblocks when calling on her behalf. She has no immediate family, gets confused easily, and lives about 90 minutes from me. I have POA and am her trustee, but SSA won't discuss anything with me!We recently had to get copies of her 1099s and some SSA-4926 forms, and it was a nightmare since she can't use computers and I couldn't speak for her. Her bills are on autopay from her account where her SS benefits are deposited, so I don't think she needs a representative payee, but I do need SOME way to help manage her SS affairs.Do I need to take her in person to an SSA office? What documentation should I bring? Is there a specific form to become an authorized representative that's different from rep payee? Any advice would save us both a lot of stress!
WAIT - just becoming a representative won't automatically solve the tax form issue. Those 1099-SSA forms and access to her earnings record requires specific authorization. Make sure box 7
I'm trying to figure out a complicated Social Security situation involving my current marriage, a potential divorce/remarriage, and survivor benefits. My current husband (58) receives SSDI at $1,970/month, while my ex-husband (in poor health) would provide a much higher survivor benefit ($3,875) than I'd get on my own record. I'm considering divorcing and later remarrying my current husband (I'm 60 now, so new marriage wouldn't affect ex-spouse benefits). But I'm mainly concerned about protecting my current husband financially if I die first. Two strategies I'm weighing: Option A: Claim my own benefits at 62 ($2,064/month), then switch to survivor benefits when my ex passes ($3,875). Question: If I die first, would my current husband receive my FULL FRA amount as a survivor benefit, or would it be reduced because I claimed early at 62? Option B: Wait until my FRA ($2,931) or even age 70 ($3,635) to claim. Then when ex passes, switch to survivor benefits. I'm also worried how the divorce-remarriage plan might affect my current husband's survivor rights. We've been married 10 years, so he qualifies for survivor benefits on my record if I don't divorce. With his limited SSDI income, I need to make sure he's protected if I go first. Are there Social Security rules I'm missing that could impact this strategy?
After reading everyone's responses, I think I need to reconsider my approach. The risks to my current husband's financial security seem too great with the divorce-remarry strategy. I'm going to use that Claimyr service to connect with SSA and discuss my specific situation. Maybe there are options I haven't considered. Does anyone know if there's a financial advisor who specializes in these complex Social Security cases? I'm willing to pay for professional advice given how much money is at stake over our lifetimes.
Yes, there are financial advisors who specialize in Social Security optimization! Look for fee-only advisors who are specifically trained in Social Security claiming strategies. The National Association of Personal Financial Advisors (NAPFA) has a search tool where you can filter for advisors with Social Security expertise. Also consider Registered Social Security Analysts (RSSA) - they have specialized training in these complex scenarios. Given the potential $1000/month difference you mentioned, paying $500-1000 for professional analysis could easily pay for itself within the first year. Before meeting with any advisor, document all the key details: both spouses' earnings records, projected benefits at different claiming ages, health status, and your financial goals. This will help them run accurate scenarios for you. The fact that you're thinking about your current husband's protection shows you're approaching this thoughtfully. A good advisor will help you weigh the financial trade-offs against the risks we've all mentioned here.
Diego Chavez
Update: I called SSA this morning and finally got through after trying for 3 days! The rep confirmed what many of you said - they look at net earnings for self-employment. She also explained that they'll take the adjustment from future benefits next year after I file my taxes. I'm going to track my hours and income more carefully going forward, and I might talk to my accountant about restructuring. Thanks everyone for your help!
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Luca Bianchi
Great! One other thing to keep in mind - the earnings limit gets higher the year you reach Full Retirement Age (FRA), and then goes away completely the month you hit FRA. So if your FRA is 67, when you turn 67 there's no more earnings limit at all. Makes a big difference for planning!
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Fatima Al-Suwaidi
One thing I haven't seen mentioned yet is that you can request a waiver if the overpayment creates a financial hardship. I had to do this when I got hit with a $2,800 overpayment notice. You file Form SSA-632 and provide financial documentation showing that repaying would cause undue hardship. Also, keep detailed records of when you work vs. when you don't work each month. If you have months where you truly don't work at all in your consulting business, you can get full benefits for those months under the monthly earnings test that @Luca Bianchi mentioned. This saved me about $1,200 last year during the three months I took off due to a family emergency. The key is being proactive - don't wait for the overpayment notice. Report your estimated annual earnings to SSA early in the year so they can adjust your monthly payments accordingly.
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