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Self-employed hours limit before FRA - is it 45 or 15 per month for Social Security earnings test?

I'm turning 63 next month and plan to start taking Social Security retirement while still running my small consulting business. I'm getting conflicting information about the hours limit for self-employed people before full retirement age. My neighbor says it's 45 hours per month maximum, but the financial advisor at my bank says it's 15 hours. Which is correct? And how exactly does reporting work when you're self-employed? Do I need to track and report my hours monthly somewhere, or just report income at tax time? I'm concerned about accidentally going over limits and then getting hit with a huge overpayment notice a year later when my taxes are processed. Has anyone here dealt with this as a self-employed person?

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As someone who just went through this process last year, I can confirm that tracking both hours and income is crucial for self-employed folks. One thing I learned the hard way is that SSA considers "substantial services" differently for different types of businesses. For consulting work like yours, they look at whether you're providing services that require your specific skills and experience - even if you're under 15 hours per month, if you're doing high-level strategic work, they might still consider it substantial. I ended up creating a simple spreadsheet to track both my hours and income monthly. It saved me when SSA did follow up with questions about my work activity. Also, don't forget that the hours test applies to ALL work in your business - not just billable client hours. Time spent on marketing, administration, bookkeeping, etc. all counts toward your monthly total. One more tip: if you're planning to wind down your business gradually, document that process. SSA looks favorably on people who are clearly transitioning toward retirement rather than just trying to work around the rules.

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Should I use my 401K as a bridge to delay Social Security until age 70?

Trying to decide the smartest path forward with my retirement finances. I'll hit my full retirement age (FRA) in September 2025, but I'm seriously considering delaying my Social Security benefits until I turn 70. The numbers show my monthly benefit would increase by about $1,350 if I wait those extra years. I have approximately $775,000 in my 401K that I could tap into as a bridge until 70. My thinking is that this approach would serve two purposes: 1) I'd get the higher SS benefit for life, and 2) drawing down my 401K now would reduce my required minimum distributions (RMDs) later, potentially keeping me in a lower tax bracket long-term. Once I hit 70, my Social Security would basically cover all my living expenses (house is paid off, no car payment, etc.), so I wouldn't need to withdraw much from retirement accounts. Does this strategy make financial sense? Any pitfalls I'm overlooking? Thanks for any insights!

One more important point: run calculations on the tax implications of higher RMDs vs. higher SS benefits. While reducing RMDs is generally helpful, remember that 85% of SS benefits may become taxable if your other income (including RMDs) is high enough. In some cases, the tax advantage of reducing RMDs can be partially offset by increased taxation of your larger SS benefit. This doesn't usually negate the advantage of delaying, but it's something to model in your specific situation. A good tax-focused financial planner can run these projections for you and might identify some additional strategies to minimize lifetime tax burden.

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Thanks for raising this point. I hadn't considered how the higher SS benefit might affect the tax calculation long-term. Sounds like I really should get some professional advice to model all these variables. Appreciate everyone's insights!

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As someone who just went through this decision process myself, I can't stress enough how important it is to factor in your health and family longevity history. The break-even point for delaying SS until 70 is typically around age 82-83, but if you have health concerns or a family history of shorter lifespans, the math changes significantly. I ended up doing a hybrid approach - I delayed SS but also purchased a small immediate annuity to supplement my 401k withdrawals during the bridge years. This gave me some guaranteed income floor while still allowing me to capture most of the delayed retirement credits. Might be worth considering if you're worried about sequence of returns risk during your early retirement years. Also, definitely look into the Roth conversion opportunity during your bridge years - it's one of the best parts of this strategy that often gets overlooked!

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Double Social Security tax deductions from my state job paycheck - is this legal?

I just noticed something strange on my state government paycheck and I'm really confused. It looks like Social Security and Medicare taxes are being deducted TWICE - once where the state pays and once where I pay. I'm losing about $240 per paycheck this way! Is this even legal? I thought we only pay these taxes once. Has anyone else working for state government experienced this? Should I talk to HR again or contact Social Security directly? This feels like a mistake but HR wasn't very helpful when I mentioned it.

UPDATE: Just got back from my meeting with payroll! Turns out I was right to be suspicious. What happened is our agency recently changed how they classify certain positions and didn't properly update the payroll codes. Some of us were accidentally flagged as both regular state employees AND as special category employees that have different withholding requirements. They're fixing it immediately and said I'll get all the extra money back in my next paycheck! Thanks everyone for confirming I wasn't missing something obvious!

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VICTORY!!! So glad you got it sorted out! Make sure that next check actually has the refund though. My payroll promised the same thing and then "forgot" to add it. Had to follow up AGAIN. ๐Ÿ™„

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Great news! Be sure to check that the refund amount matches what was incorrectly withheld. Also, make sure they're correcting your W-2 information if this has been happening since January, as it would affect your tax filing for this year. Glad you got resolution!

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Congrats on getting this resolved! This is exactly why it's so important to carefully review every line item on your paystub - these kinds of payroll classification errors happen more often than people realize, especially after system updates or organizational changes. Your persistence paid off big time. Hopefully this helps other state employees who might be experiencing similar issues to know they should definitely question anything that looks off rather than assuming the payroll system is always right.

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Can I get any of my husband's Social Security benefits while he's in a nursing home?

My husband (68) had to move into a nursing home last month due to his worsening Parkinson's. We're both on Social Security - I get $1,740/month on my own record and he gets $2,450. The nursing home costs are draining our savings FAST, and I'm struggling to keep up with our mortgage ($1,850/month) on just my benefit. I've heard conflicting things about whether I can get any portion of his SS benefit while he's in the facility. Does anyone know if I'm eligible for any of his benefits while he's institutionalized? Would this be considered the same as a spousal benefit? I called SSA but got disconnected after waiting for 45 minutes. Any advice would be so appreciated!

I'm so sorry you're dealing with this stressful situation. Reading through all these responses has been incredibly educational for me too, as I may face something similar with my elderly parents soon. Based on everything shared here, it sounds like you have a solid action plan: getting that elder law attorney consultation, trying Claimyr to reach SSA, and gathering all your financial documentation for the Medicaid application. One thing I wanted to add that might be helpful - when you're organizing all those expense documents everyone mentioned, don't forget to include things like prescription costs, medical equipment, and any ongoing healthcare expenses you have. These can sometimes be factored into the calculations for how much income you're allowed to keep. Also, I've heard that some elder law attorneys offer free initial consultations for these types of cases, so if cost is a concern, it might be worth calling around to a few different firms. The investment in professional guidance seems like it could potentially save thousands in the long run based on what others have shared here. You're clearly a strong advocate for both yourself and your husband, and you're asking all the right questions. This community has provided such valuable insights - please do keep us updated on how your consultation goes. Wishing you the very best outcome!

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Thank you Jamal for the reminder about including all healthcare expenses - that's such a good point! I hadn't thought about prescription costs and medical equipment potentially being factored into the income calculations. My husband has several expensive medications for his Parkinson's that I'm still paying for, plus we had to buy a hospital bed and other equipment before he went into the facility. I'll make sure to gather all those receipts and include them in my documentation. Your suggestion about calling around for free consultations is really smart too - I found one attorney who offers a 30-minute free consultation, so that's who I'm meeting with on Thursday. This whole process has been so overwhelming, but having this community's guidance and support has made such a difference. Everyone's shared experiences have helped me feel much more prepared and confident going into these important conversations. I'll definitely update everyone after my meetings - hopefully with some good news that can help other families facing similar situations!

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I'm so sorry you're going through this difficult situation. My grandfather went through something very similar when he had to enter a nursing home for dementia care. Based on what everyone has shared here, it sounds like you're on the right track with getting that elder law attorney consultation and trying to reach SSA through Claimyr. One thing I learned from our experience that might be helpful - when you meet with the attorney on Thursday, ask them about the timing of your Medicaid application versus when your husband's Social Security gets redirected to the nursing home. In our case, there was about a 2-month gap where we were still receiving grandpa's full SS check while the Medicaid paperwork was being processed, and we had to be very careful about how that money was handled during that transition period. Also, make sure to ask the attorney about any spend-down requirements for your assets. Even with the spousal resource allowance protections, there might be strategic ways to position your finances before the Medicaid approval goes through. This whole process is so complex and emotionally draining, but it sounds like you're doing everything right by getting professional help and asking these important questions early. The fact that this community has been able to provide so much detailed guidance shows there really are protections available - you just have to know how to access them. Sending you strength for your upcoming meetings!

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Thank you Miguel for bringing up the timing issue with the Social Security redirect - that's such an important detail I hadn't considered! I'll definitely ask the attorney about how to handle that transition period properly. It sounds like there could be some tricky financial management required during those couple months while everything gets sorted out. Your point about spend-down requirements is also really valuable - I want to make sure we're positioning our assets in the most strategic way possible before the Medicaid approval. It's amazing how many different timing and procedural considerations are involved in this process that most people would never think about until they're in the middle of it. I'm feeling much more prepared for Thursday's meeting thanks to all the insights everyone has shared here. This community has truly been a lifesaver during such a overwhelming time. I'll make sure to ask about both the SS redirect timing and any spend-down strategies that might help us. Thank you for sharing your grandfather's experience - it really helps to know that other families have successfully navigated this complex system!

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When exactly does Social Security retirement start at FRA of 67 - on birthdate or beginning/end of month?

I'm planning to claim my Social Security retirement benefits exactly at my Full Retirement Age (FRA) which is 67 years and 2 months for me. What I can't figure out is WHEN exactly my benefits would start? Does Social Security consider me officially retired on my actual birthday, the first day of that month, or the last day of the month? I've looked through the SSA website but keep finding conflicting information. Some pages say benefits are paid for the previous month, but then how does that work with my exact FRA date? I want to make sure I don't accidentally claim too early and get a reduction. Has anyone here gone through this exact scenario?

I just want to add something that might be helpful - make sure you understand the difference between your "month of entitlement" and your "payment month." I made this mistake initially and thought there was an error with my benefits. Your month of entitlement is the month you're eligible to receive benefits (the month you reach FRA), but your payment month is always the following month. So if you reach FRA in September, September is your month of entitlement, but you won't actually receive that payment until October. Also, one thing I wish someone had told me: even though you reach FRA on a specific date, Social Security treats it as if you were at FRA for the entire month. So there's no partial month calculation - you get the full monthly benefit amount for that month. This was a pleasant surprise when I got my first payment! The key is just making sure you don't apply for benefits before you actually reach your FRA date, even if it's in the same month. That's where people sometimes get tripped up and end up with a reduction.

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Just wanted to share my recent experience since I literally just went through this exact situation last month! My FRA was 67 years and 4 months, which fell on November 12th. I was so worried about the timing and whether I'd accidentally file too early. What ended up happening: I reached my FRA on November 12th, November became my "month of entitlement" (got the full month's benefit even though I only qualified partway through), and I received my first payment in December covering November. Since my birthday is on the 12th, I got paid on the 3rd Wednesday of December. One thing that really helped me was creating a my Social Security account online at ssa.gov before I applied. You can see your exact FRA date down to the day, and it shows your estimated benefit amounts. When I finally applied (about 3 months before my FRA), the online application was pretty straightforward about setting the benefit start date. The most confusing part for me was understanding that "benefits paid for the previous month" thing, but once someone explained it like the comments above - that you're getting paid IN December FOR November - it all clicked. Hope this helps ease some of your worry about the timing!

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@Mikayla Davison This is incredibly helpful to hear from someone who just went through this! I m'in almost the exact same situation - my FRA is 67 years and 2 months falling on September 18th. Your timeline breakdown makes so much sense. I really appreciate the tip about creating the my Social Security account online first. I keep putting that off but it sounds like it would answer a lot of my questions about exact dates and benefit amounts. Did you find the online application process pretty user-friendly? I m'always worried about messing up something important on government forms. Also, I m'curious - when you were getting close to your November FRA date, did you get any kind of confirmation or notification from SSA about your benefits starting? Or did you just wait for that first December payment to show up? I m'the type of person who likes to know exactly what s'happening when, so any insight about what to expect would be great!

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@Mikayla Davison Thank you so much for sharing your experience! This is exactly what I needed to hear. I m'in a very similar situation - my FRA is 67 years and 2 months on September 18th, so your timeline really helps me understand what to expect. I hadn t'thought about setting up the my Social Security account online first, but that sounds like a smart move to see my exact dates and benefit estimates before applying. Did you find the online application straightforward? I m'always nervous about filling out important government forms and want to make sure I don t'make any mistakes. One question - did you receive any kind of confirmation from SSA as you approached your FRA date, or did you just wait for that first payment to arrive in December? I like to know exactly what s'happening when, so I m'wondering what kind of communication to expect once I ve'applied. Really appreciate you taking the time to share your real-world experience with this process!

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