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Thank you everyone for all the helpful responses! I've scheduled an appointment for next week using that Claimyr service (which worked amazingly well - took less than 10 minutes to get through to a real person). The agent I spoke with confirmed I should apply now for March benefits and gave me a list of documents to bring. She also explained the earnings limit since I still work part-time. I really appreciate all your advice and support!

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That's wonderful to hear! It sounds like you're all set up for success. Just wanted to add one more tip - when you go to your appointment, consider asking about the option to switch to your own retirement benefits later if they would be higher. Since you can earn delayed retirement credits on your own record until age 70, you might be able to maximize your total lifetime benefits by starting with survivor benefits now and then switching later. The SSA representative can run the numbers for you to see if this strategy makes sense in your situation. Best of luck with your appointment!

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Great to see you got everything sorted out! Just wanted to add that when you do go to your appointment, make sure to ask about retroactive benefits. Since survivor benefits can sometimes be paid retroactively up to 6 months before your application date (depending on your situation), it's worth asking if you're eligible for any back payments. Also, if you haven't already, consider setting up a my Social Security account online - it'll make it much easier to track your benefit statements and manage your account once everything is processed. The whole process can feel overwhelming at first, but it sounds like you're handling it perfectly!

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This is such great advice about retroactive benefits and setting up the online account! I hadn't thought about either of those things. I'll definitely ask about back payments at my appointment - every bit helps. And you're right about the my Social Security account - I should probably set that up before I go so I'm familiar with it. Thanks for taking the time to share these additional tips. This community has been so helpful during what's been a pretty stressful process!

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One more important point: If you do exceed the earnings limit, SSA doesn't necessarily reduce each month's benefit by the same amount. They typically withhold benefits completely for some months rather than reducing each payment. For example, if they determine you need to repay $5,000, and your monthly benefit is $2,500, they might withhold 2 full months of benefits. They'll notify you before they do this. Also, remember that any benefits withheld due to excess earnings aren't truly "lost" - once you reach FRA, SSA recalculates your benefit amount to give you credit for those months when benefits were withheld.

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That's good to know! So it's not as catastrophic as I feared if I accidentally go over. I think I'll try to stay well under the limits just to be safe, but it's reassuring to know the withheld amounts aren't permanently lost.

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As someone who recently navigated this exact situation, I want to add a few practical tips that helped me: 1. **Create a simple tracking system NOW** - I use a basic spreadsheet with columns for date, hours worked, type of work, and income earned. This makes it easy to see if you're approaching either limit. 2. **Be conservative with your planning** - I aimed to stay about 10% under both the income and hours limits to give myself a buffer for unexpected projects or miscalculations. 3. **Consider timing your invoicing** - Since you're self-employed, you might have some flexibility in when you send invoices and receive payments. This can help you manage which months income gets counted toward. 4. **Keep ALL business records** - Even if SSA doesn't ask for them, having detailed records of expenses, hours, and income will save you headaches if questions arise later. The good news is that once you hit your FRA in August 2025, all these restrictions disappear completely. You're only dealing with about 8 months of careful tracking. It's manageable if you stay organized from the start!

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This is incredibly helpful advice! I'm just starting to think about all this and feeling pretty overwhelmed by the complexity. The spreadsheet idea sounds perfect - I'm definitely going to set that up this weekend. One question about the invoicing timing - does it matter when I do the actual work versus when I get paid? Like if I complete a project in December 2024 but don't invoice until January 2025, which month does that income count toward? Also, thank you for mentioning the buffer strategy. I was planning to try to get right up to the limits, but staying 10% under sounds much safer given how confusing all these rules are!

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To answer your question about notifications - your sister should: 1. Sign up for email updates from advocacy groups like the National Active and Retired Federal Employees Association (NARFE) or the National Education Association (NEA) who track this legislation closely 2. Set up alerts on congress.gov for the specific bill numbers (though these change each session) 3. Follow her congressional representatives on social media as they'll likely announce when it passes If her question is specifically about applying for benefits should the law change, she should create a my Social Security account online where SSA posts important notices and updates.

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This is great, thank you. I'll help her sign up for some of these alerts. I just hope they actually pass it this year - it's been introduced so many times before.

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I'm in a similar boat as your sister! I retired from teaching last year after 38 years and my husband passed in 2023. The GPO wiped out my entire survivor benefit because my pension is $3,900/month. It's so frustrating because we paid into Social Security for years before I became a teacher, and my husband paid in his whole working life. I've been following the Fairness Act closely and reached out to both my senators' offices last month. One staffer told me they expect movement on it this spring, but who knows. I'm trying not to get my hopes up after being disappointed so many times before. Your sister should definitely prepare all her paperwork now like others suggested. I have everything ready in a folder - marriage certificate, death certificate, pension documentation, and my husband's Social Security statement. If this thing ever passes, I want to be first in line to apply!

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I'm so sorry for your loss and the frustration you're dealing with. It's encouraging to hear from someone in the exact same situation! Do you mind me asking which senators' offices you contacted? I'm wondering if it's worth reaching out to ours too, or if there's a particular way to approach them that might be more effective. The folder idea is brilliant - I'm going to help my sister get all that documentation organized this weekend. Fingers crossed we both get some good news soon!

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Welcome to the community! As a newcomer here, I just wanted to say how incredibly helpful this entire discussion has been. I'm 68 and have been hesitant to take on any additional work because I was so confused about these earnings limits. Reading through everyone's real experiences has been eye-opening - it's amazing how many of us had the same worries! The clear explanation that there's absolutely NO earnings limit after Full Retirement Age has given me so much confidence. I especially appreciate all the practical tips about tax implications and record-keeping that people have shared. It's wonderful to see such a supportive community where we can learn from each other's actual experiences rather than just trying to decipher confusing government websites. Thank you all for creating such a welcoming space for these important questions!

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Welcome to the community, Jessica! I'm also a newcomer here, and I couldn't agree more about how helpful this discussion has been. I'm 69 and was in the exact same boat - so worried about these mysterious earnings limits that I was afraid to even consider working again. It's incredible how widespread this confusion seems to be among people our age! What really stands out to me is how generous everyone has been with sharing not just the basic facts about no earnings limits after FRA, but also all those practical details about taxes, record-keeping, and real dollar amounts. This kind of real-world experience is so much more valuable than trying to navigate government websites on your own. I feel like I've gotten a complete education just from reading through everyone's stories. It's wonderful to find a community where we can support each other through these important financial decisions!

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Welcome to the community! As a newcomer here, I just wanted to add my thanks for this incredibly informative discussion. I'm 70 and have been considering returning to work part-time, but like so many others here, I was really anxious about how it might affect my Social Security benefits. The consistent message from everyone that there's NO earnings limit after Full Retirement Age is such a huge relief! What I find most valuable is hearing all these real-world examples - from working at Costco to bookkeeping to landscaping - it really shows there are so many opportunities for people our age to stay active and earn extra income without any worry about benefit reductions. The additional insights about tax planning and keeping good records are incredibly practical too. It's amazing how this one question has generated such a wealth of helpful information and support. Thank you all for creating such a welcoming community where we can share these important experiences!

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Welcome to the community, Lia! As another newcomer here, I'm so glad you found this discussion as helpful as I did. I'm 72 and was in the exact same situation - worried about earnings limits even though I'm well past Full Retirement Age. What really struck me is how many of us seem to have had this same anxiety! The variety of work examples everyone shared is so encouraging - it really shows that there are opportunities for meaningful part-time work at any age without having to worry about Social Security implications. I especially appreciated hearing the specific details about hours, wages, and tax considerations. It's wonderful to find a community where people are so generous with sharing their real experiences. I feel much more confident about exploring work opportunities now, and I hope you do too!

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While your father's retirement benefits will be suspended during incarceration, it's important to know that some programs like SSI have different rules than regular Social Security retirement. With SSI, benefits can be suspended for up to 12 months before termination, but with traditional retirement benefits, they're just suspended and can be reinstated after release regardless of how long the incarceration lasts. Make sure you're applying for reinstatement as soon as possible after release. Also, if your father was receiving any other benefits like food stamps, housing assistance, etc., those all have different rules during incarceration. Each program requires separate notification for reinstatement.

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Actually thats not entirely right - even SS retirement DOES have limits if incarceration is for a FELONY and goes beyond certain timeframes. My friend's dad lost eligibility completely after a 7 year sentence related to financial crimes. There are exceptions!!!

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Thanks everyone for the helpful responses. I feel much better prepared now. To summarize: his benefits will be suspended (not terminated), we need to get them reinstated right after release with proper documentation, and I should plan for 2-3 weeks without income after his release while SSA processes everything. I should also figure out how to handle his Medicare premiums while he's incarcerated. I'm going to look into getting power of attorney so I can help manage all this while he's inside.

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@Zara Shah That s'excellent advice about scheduling the appointment ahead of time! I ve'heard horror stories about people waiting 4-5 hours at SSA offices. Do you know if they can schedule the appointment while he s'still incarcerated, or do we need to wait until after his release? I m'wondering if having the appointment already set up for the day after release would make the whole process smoother.

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@Logan Scott You can definitely schedule the appointment while he s'still incarcerated! I d'recommend calling SSA about 2-3 weeks before his expected release date. They typically book appointments 1-2 weeks out, so timing it right means you can have that appointment ready for the day after he gets out. Just make sure you have his Social Security number and basic info when you call. Having that appointment pre-scheduled will save you so much stress during an already overwhelming time.

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