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Have u looked at her bank statements? My mom gets direct deposit so i just added up all the SS deposits for the year. Accountant said that was fine since it matches what the 1099 would show anyway. Just make sure u factor in any Medicare deductions if those come out before deposit.

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Someone else just suggested that too - I think that's what I'll do! She does have Medicare premiums deducted, so I'll need to add those back in. Thanks for confirming this approach works!

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Also if you end up having to go to the office bring WATER AND SNACKS!! Trust me, we were there for almost 3 hours total and they don't even have a vending machine in the waiting area. And charge your phone fully!

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That's great advice - thank you! I'll definitely pack a small cooler with water and snacks for her if we end up having to go in person.

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i think u might be getting confused between widow benefits and disabled widow benefits they are different things. regular widow benefits u can get at 60 but disabled widow benefits u can get at 50 if ur disabled. the estopple thing only matters if ur trying to get the disabled widow benefit bcuz normally theyd make u prove ur disabled all over again even if u already did that for ur own disability

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You're right - I'm specifically asking about disabled widow benefits since I'm already on SSDI for my own disability. It's the having to prove disability all over again part that I was dreading, especially after how difficult my first disability determination process was.

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Just to add one important detail: when you apply for disabled widow benefits under this policy, make sure to bring both your SSDI award letter and recent medical records. Even though they won't require a full medical review, they'll still want to verify your condition hasn't improved significantly since your original determination. Also, be prepared for the fact that the field office staff might not be familiar with the term "collateral estoppel" specifically. You might need to explain that you're referring to the policy that allows them to use your existing disability determination for your widow's claim. Some offices are more up-to-date on policy changes than others.

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That's a great point about the field office staff possibly not knowing the terminology. I'll make sure to explain it clearly and bring all my documentation. Would it be better to apply online or in person for something like this? I'm wondering which would give me a better chance of having it processed correctly under this policy.

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For something like this where you're relying on a specific policy, an in-person appointment is usually better if you can manage it. That way you can explain the situation directly and make sure they understand what you're requesting. If that's not possible, applying online and then following up with a scheduled phone appointment would be my next recommendation.

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One more important thing that no one has mentioned yet - when your ex passes away, you only have a limited time to apply for the survivor benefits retroactively. I believe it's currently 6 months. So don't delay in applying once that unfortunate event occurs, or you could lose out on some months of the higher benefit amount.

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Oh, that's really important to know! I had no idea there was a time limit for retroactive benefits. I'll definitely keep that in mind. Thank you for highlighting this!

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random but does anyone know if the OP would get the ex-husbands COLA increases too when on his survivor benefits? or just the fixed amount from when he died?

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Great question! Yes, survivor benefits do receive the same Cost of Living Adjustments (COLAs) that all Social Security benefits receive. So if the OP switches to her ex-husband's survivor benefits, she'll continue to receive any COLA increases that are applied to Social Security benefits in future years. The survivor benefit essentially steps into the shoes of the deceased's benefit, including future adjustments.

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Since this will be your first Social Security payment, you should also be aware that benefits are paid via direct deposit to your bank account or to a Direct Express debit card. If you haven't already set up your payment method, you should do that right away through your my Social Security account online or by calling SSA directly. Also worth noting: if you're working while receiving benefits and are under your Full Retirement Age (FRA), remember there are earnings limits to be aware of ($22,320 in 2025 for those under FRA). Exceeding these limits will reduce your benefits temporarily.

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Thank you! I did set up direct deposit already, and I won't be working anymore so no worries about the earnings limit. Thankfully I waited until my full retirement age before applying!

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When I strtd SS last year I was so confused too lol. My daughter had to explain it all 2 me like 5 times b4 I got it. Just remeber January $ comes in February, February $ comes in March etc

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i filed at 63 too last yr. my investments didnt mess up anything but like someone else said the tax thing is annoying. i got a littl surprise at tax time lol. but the monthly benfit itself wasnt reduced at all from having investments. i sstill get dividends and interest and cds maturing fine with no problems

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Thanks for sharing your experience! I'll definitely talk to my tax person so I don't get surprised at tax time.

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My aunt recently told me the Social Security Administration looks at ALL your finances when deciding how much to give you. She said her brother got less benefits because he had too many assets. But from what I'm reading here that doesn't sound right?

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Your aunt is confusing regular Social Security retirement (which is NOT means-tested and doesn't consider assets) with SSI (Supplemental Security Income), which DOES have strict asset limits. For standard retirement benefits, the amount is based solely on your highest 35 years of earnings that you paid Social Security taxes on. Your current assets and investments have absolutely no impact on your retirement benefit calculation. Her brother might have been applying for SSI, which has a $2,000 asset limit ($3,000 for couples), or he might have been working while collecting early retirement benefits.

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I'm confused about something similar. If the earnings limit is $22,320 annually, does that mean I can earn $1,860 per month? Or do they look at the whole year at once? I have a seasonal business that makes most of its money in the summer months, so I might go over in some months but still stay under the annual total.

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Great question! For the retirement earnings test (RET), SSA looks at your annual total, not month-by-month earnings. So your seasonal business model works fine with Social Security as long as your total earnings for the year stay under the limit. This is different from SSDI, which does use a monthly SGA amount to determine eligibility.

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One thing I haven't seen mentioned yet: if your benefits are reduced because you exceed the earnings limit, it's not money you permanently lose. Once you reach your Full Retirement Age, SSA will recalculate your monthly benefit amount to give you credit for the months they withheld benefits. So you'll get a higher monthly payment after FRA to make up for some of those reductions. Also, for your first year of retirement, SSA sometimes applies a monthly earnings test rather than the annual one. You might want to ask about the "first year rule" when you speak with them.

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They NEVER told me about getting the money back later!!! I've been at FRA for 2 years now and my benefit is still the same reduced amount. How do you get them to do this recalculation???

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my neighbor tried to make a new account when she forgot her old one and SSA flagged her account for fraud investigation!!!! took like 3 months to sort out and delayed her getting her checks. dont do that!!!

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Yikes! That's definitely something I want to avoid. Thanks for the warning. I'm definitely going to focus on recovering my old account rather than creating a new one.

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I used that Claimyr service someone mentioned above when I had account issues last month. Got through to an actual human at SSA in like 20 minutes instead of spending all day on hold. The agent reset everything for me over the phone after verifying my identity. Just needed my SSN, date of birth, and they asked some questions about my work history to confirm it was really me.

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That's really good to know! I'm going to try the online recovery options first, but if those don't work, I think I'll try the Claimyr route before attempting an in-person visit. Thanks for sharing your experience!

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my sister said they take walk ins on tuesday afternoons at her office in portland, maybe check if ur local office has specific walk in times?

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One more tip - if you're able to get an in-person appointment, make a list of ALL your questions beforehand. I thought I'd covered everything during my appointment about spousal benefits, but realized after I left that I forgot to ask about taxation of benefits. Had to start the whole process over again!

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Great advice - I'll definitely make a comprehensive list. I don't want to miss anything and have to go through this nightmare twice!

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Has anyone here successfully gotten an increase in their SS payment after having cancer??? My dad is going through something similar and we keep hitting dead ends... SO FRUSTRATING!!!

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no increases with SS but check your state dept of aging. my husband got extra help with heating bills and some home care through our county office. not much but every little bit helped.

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I'm a volunteer with cancer patients, and while Social Security won't provide additional cash benefits beyond his retirement amount, please look into these resources that many miss: 1. Cancer Financial Assistance Coalition (CFAC) - searchable database of financial help 2. CancerCare provides small grants for treatment-related costs 3. Patient Advocate Foundation for help negotiating medical bills 4. If he was employed when diagnosed, check if his employer offered critical illness insurance 5. Veterans with cancer can access additional VA benefits if applicable Definitely apply for Extra Help with Medicare prescription drugs as others suggested - it can reduce costs dramatically.

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Thank you SO much for these resources! I hadn't heard of most of these. Will definitely check into all of them, especially the CancerCare grants. Every bit helps right now.

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I'm actually wondering about a similar situation, but I'll be turning 70 in February 2025 and want to make sure I get the maximum delayed retirement credits. Should I also apply 3 months ahead or is my situation different since I'm at the maximum age?

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Your situation is slightly different. At age 70, you want to start benefits the month you turn 70 to get all your delayed retirement credits. In your case, you should apply in November 2024 (3 months before February) and specifically request February 2025 as your start month. Make sure the application specifies your benefits begin in February, not January, so you get that final month of delayed credits.

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dont u get paid for the month before? like january payment comes in february? thats what my neighbor told me and shes been on SS for years

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Yes, that's correct. Social Security payments are made in the month following the month for which they are due. So if you want your benefits to start with January 2025, you'll receive your first payment in February 2025. This is an important point that many people misunderstand. When you specify January as your start month, you're requesting that your entitlement begins in January, but the actual deposit will come in February. The day of the month you receive your payment depends on your birth date: - Born on 1st-10th: Second Wednesday of the month - Born on 11th-20th: Third Wednesday of the month - Born on 21st-31st: Fourth Wednesday of the month And for those who started receiving benefits before May 1997, payments generally arrive on the 3rd of each month.

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