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I'm dealing with similar spinal issues and wanted to share something that might help with your decision-making process. Since you mentioned your boss is starting to notice productivity issues, have you considered talking to HR about requesting reasonable accommodations under the ADA before making any major employment decisions? Things like a sit/stand desk, more frequent breaks, or even working from home a few days a week could help you maintain your job longer while you're going through the disability application process. This creates a paper trail showing you tried to continue working with accommodations, which can actually strengthen your SSDI case by demonstrating that even with workplace modifications, your conditions prevent you from maintaining substantial gainful activity. Also, given your upcoming laminectomy, make sure your surgeon documents in detail your current functional limitations and expected recovery timeline. Post-surgical complications or incomplete recovery can be significant factors in disability determinations, especially when you're already dealing with multiple conditions affecting different body systems. The fact that you're 59 with 35 years of work history puts you in a strong position under the medical-vocational guidelines if your conditions prevent you from doing any work you've done in the past 15 years. Don't lose hope - the process is daunting but your situation sounds like it has merit.

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This is excellent advice about ADA accommodations! I hadn't thought about how requesting accommodations could actually strengthen a disability case by showing you tried everything possible to keep working. That's really smart strategic thinking. I'm definitely going to explore the sit/stand desk option - sitting for long periods is one of my biggest challenges right now. Working from home even part-time would be amazing since it would eliminate my commute (which aggravates my spine issues) and give me more control over my environment during pain flares. You make a great point about having my surgeon document everything thoroughly. I've been so focused on just getting through the surgery that I didn't think about how the documentation could impact a potential disability claim. I'll make sure to discuss my current limitations in detail during my pre-op appointment. Thank you for the encouragement about my age and work history - it's reassuring to know that those factors could work in my favor. This whole situation feels overwhelming but having a community of people who understand really helps.

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I want to echo what others have said about documentation being absolutely critical. As someone who went through the SSDI process with multiple conditions (though different from yours), I can't stress enough how important it is to be completely honest with your doctors about your pain levels and limitations. One thing I learned the hard way is that SSA doesn't just look at your individual conditions - they also consider the cumulative effect of multiple impairments. In your case, the combination of severe TMJ affecting eating/speaking, spinal issues requiring multiple surgeries, GERD with Barrett's, and fibromyalgia creates a compelling picture of someone whose overall functioning is significantly compromised. Since you're still working full-time, consider keeping a detailed daily log of how your symptoms affect your work performance - times you had to take breaks due to pain, days you couldn't concentrate because of medication side effects, instances where TMJ made it difficult to communicate with colleagues, etc. This real-world evidence of how your conditions impact your ability to perform work tasks can be incredibly valuable. Also, don't underestimate the impact of Barrett's esophagus - this is a serious condition with cancer risk that requires ongoing monitoring and can significantly affect your quality of life and ability to work consistently. The insurance gap issue mentioned by others is real and scary, but don't let fear paralyze you into continuing to damage your health. There may be options you haven't considered yet, and a disability attorney can help you navigate the timing to minimize gaps in coverage.

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One last piece of advice - after you submit your application, create a my Social Security account on ssa.gov if you haven't already. You can track your application status there, and once you're receiving benefits, you can get benefit verification letters, change your address, set up or change direct deposit, and get your 1099 at tax time. It's super convenient and saves you from having to call or visit the office for routine things.

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I do have a my Social Security account, but I haven't used it much yet. Good to know I'll be able to track my application there. Thanks for all your help everyone! I feel much more confident about applying now.

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Just went through this process myself 6 months ago! You're smart to be proactive about it. One thing I wish someone had told me - when you fill out the online application, it will ask if you want to apply for Medicare Part B if you're not already enrolled. Since you mentioned you're already on Medicare, you can skip that section, but read it carefully because the wording can be confusing. Also, don't stress too much about the work history section - they already have most of your earnings records from your tax filings over the years. The system will pre-populate a lot of information and you just need to verify it's correct. Good luck with your retirement!

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I've been following this thread with great interest as I work with Social Security issues regularly. A few additional points that might help: First, if you're still struggling to get through by phone, try using the automated system to schedule a "callback" - you can request SSA to call you back rather than waiting on hold. This often works better than trying to stay on the line. Second, regarding the protective filing for children's benefits that Jamal mentioned - this is absolutely correct and crucial. Even if you can't complete the full application, establishing that protective filing date in writing will preserve their retroactive benefits. Third, I wanted to clarify the conflicting information about retroactive benefits - the POMS (Program Operations Manual System) is very clear that auxiliary beneficiaries (including children) can receive benefits retroactive to the primary beneficiary's entitlement date, provided the auxiliary application is filed within the appropriate timeframes. Any office that tells you otherwise is either misinformed or applying incorrect procedures. Don't hesitate to ask for a supervisor and reference POMS sections if needed. Finally, if all else fails, definitely contact your Congressional representative as Mei suggested - their constituent services offices are specifically designed to help with federal agency issues like this.

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Thank you so much for this comprehensive breakdown! The callback option through the automated system is something I hadn't heard of before - that could be a real lifesaver since I've been spending hours on hold. I'm definitely going to try that tomorrow. It's also really helpful to have confirmation about the POMS sections regarding auxiliary beneficiaries. I've been getting conflicting information from different reps, so knowing I can reference specific policy sections gives me more confidence to push back if someone tells me my kids won't get retroactive benefits. Quick question - do you happen to know the specific POMS section numbers I should reference if I run into resistance? Having those exact citations might help when speaking with supervisors.

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I'm a newcomer here but have been reading through all these responses with great interest as I'm facing a somewhat similar situation. I wanted to add something that might help - have you tried contacting your state's Department of Aging or Area Agency on Aging? Many people don't realize that these agencies often have advocates who specifically help with Social Security issues and can sometimes intervene on your behalf with SSA. They're familiar with the system and may be able to help expedite your children's applications or at least ensure you're getting accurate information. Also, regarding the Claimyr service that Liam mentioned - I actually used them successfully about 6 months ago for a different SSA issue. While results may vary as others noted, they did get me connected to an agent much faster than I could on my own. The key is to have all your documentation ready before you use their service so you can make the most of the connection once it's established. Good luck with getting this resolved - it sounds like you're doing everything right and just dealing with typical SSA bureaucracy delays!

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Welcome to the community! That's an excellent suggestion about the Department of Aging and Area Agency on Aging - I had no idea they offered Social Security advocacy services. I'm definitely going to look into that option as well. It sounds like having multiple advocates working on this from different angles could really help cut through the bureaucracy. Thanks for sharing your positive experience with Claimyr too - it's good to hear another success story since I'm planning to try that service. I've been gathering all my documents and information so I'll be ready when they connect me to an agent. It's really encouraging to see how helpful this community is with sharing these lesser-known resources and strategies!

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This thread has been such a lifesaver! I'm dealing with the exact same issue - filed my W-4V twice by mail with zero results. Reading about everyone's experiences has convinced me that going in person is definitely the way to go. One question for those who've successfully done this - do you recommend bringing any additional documentation besides the W-4V form itself? I have my Social Security card and driver's license, but wondering if I should bring anything else like a copy of my award letter or recent benefit statement? Also, has anyone noticed if certain days of the week or times of day are better for shorter wait times at the local offices? I'm retired so I have flexibility in when I can go, and would love to avoid the longest lines if possible! Thanks again to Emma for sharing her successful experience and to everyone else for all the helpful tips. This community is amazing!

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Hey Liam! Based on my experience and what others have shared, bringing your Social Security card and driver's license should be plenty - that's exactly what I brought when I went. I don't think you need the award letter or benefit statements, but it certainly wouldn't hurt to have them just in case. As for timing, I went first thing in the morning (got there 30 minutes before opening) and while there was already a line, it moved pretty quickly. From what I've observed and heard from others, early morning seems to be the sweet spot - later in the day tends to get busier. Tuesday through Thursday might be your best bet to avoid the Monday rush and Friday crowds. One tip I'd add - make sure you have a clear, legible copy of your completed W-4V form. Double-check that your SSN is clearly written at the top and that you've selected one of the standard percentages (7%, 10%, 12%, or 22%). And definitely ask for that receipt! Good luck with your visit!

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Thanks for sharing this detailed experience, Emma! I'm in a very similar situation - started receiving benefits in February and have been trying to get withholding set up ever since. I've mailed the W-4V twice with no luck, and like you, I can never get through on the phone. Your success story gives me hope! I'm planning to visit my local office next week. A couple of quick questions for you or anyone else who's done this: 1. Did you need to fill out any additional paperwork at the office, or was just bringing the completed W-4V sufficient? 2. How long did you actually wait in line once they opened? 3. Did they give you any estimate on when you might see the withholding start showing up? I'm also going to look into those quarterly estimated payments that others mentioned as a backup plan. Really appreciate everyone sharing their experiences here - it's so much more helpful than the vague information you get from the official SSA website!

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Hi Aurora! I'm glad my experience was helpful. To answer your questions: 1) I only needed the completed W-4V form - no additional paperwork at the office, 2) I waited about 45 minutes in line after they opened (got there 30 min early), and 3) they told me 4-6 weeks for processing to begin. The quarterly estimated payments are definitely a smart backup plan while you wait! The IRS website has a calculator to help figure out how much to pay each quarter. Best of luck at your office visit - just remember to ask for that receipt!

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I'm a newcomer to this community and dealing with almost the identical situation! I just had my SSA appointment last week and the agent told me the same thing about Michigan taxing Social Security - I walked out of there so confused because everything I'd read online said otherwise. Reading through all these responses has been incredibly helpful and reassuring. It's clear that the SSA agent was mixing up federal and state tax rules, which seems to be a widespread training issue based on everyone's experiences here. I'm 65 and will have similar retirement income to yours - about $48,000 combined between SS and my pension. Based on what everyone has shared, I think I'll go with 11% federal withholding to start and can always adjust it later with Form W-4V if needed. Thanks to everyone who took the time to share their experiences and clarify the Michigan tax situation. This is exactly the kind of practical, real-world advice that's so hard to find elsewhere!

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Welcome to the community, Zoe! Your situation sounds almost identical to what I went through - it's so frustrating when the people who are supposed to be the experts give you conflicting information. I'm glad this thread has been helpful for you too. The 11% federal withholding sounds like a reasonable starting point given your income level, and you're absolutely right that you can always adjust it later. It's really eye-opening how many of us have had this exact same experience with SSA agents not knowing state-specific tax rules. Thanks for sharing your story - it helps confirm that this is a systemic training issue that needs to be addressed!

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I'm new to this community and just wanted to add my voice to everyone else's experiences. I'm a recent retiree in Michigan and ran into the exact same confusion about state tax withholding on Social Security benefits. Like many others here, my SSA agent incorrectly told me that Michigan taxes Social Security benefits and recommended withholding for state taxes. After reading all these responses, I called the Michigan Department of Treasury myself to get a definitive answer - they confirmed that Michigan does NOT tax Social Security benefits, period. It's really concerning how widespread this misinformation seems to be among SSA agents. Based on what I'm seeing in this thread, this appears to be a training issue that's affecting retirees across the state. I ended up choosing 10% federal withholding for my situation, but the key takeaway for anyone reading this is: always verify state tax information with your state's tax department directly rather than relying on federal SSA agents. They're knowledgeable about federal rules but clearly need better training on state-specific tax policies. Thanks to everyone who shared their experiences here - it's incredibly valuable to have this kind of real-world confirmation when making important financial decisions!

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