Social Security survivor benefit timing - can my wife claim her SS at 62 and switch to my survivor benefits later?
I've been trying to prepare financially for my family just in case something happens to me. I'm 63 and haven't started collecting Social Security yet. My wife is 57 and we're trying to figure out the best strategy if I were to pass away unexpectedly. Would she be able to start collecting her own SS benefits at 62 and then switch to my survivor benefits when she reaches her full retirement age at 67? Or is there a better approach to maximize what she'd receive? I've heard conflicting information about whether you can switch between your own benefits and survivor benefits. My estimated benefit at FRA would be about $3,100/month while hers would be around $1,850. Any insights on optimal survivor benefit strategies would be appreciated!
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Zara Ahmed
Yes, your wife would have options! Unlike spousal benefits, survivors CAN choose when to take each benefit. She could start her own reduced retirement at 62 (getting about 70% of her FRA amount), then switch to your survivor benefit at her FRA (67) to get 100% of what you would have received at your FRA (or what you were receiving, if you had already started benefits). She can also do the reverse - take reduced survivor benefits as early as age 60 and switch to her own retirement at her FRA or later. The optimal strategy depends on the benefit amounts and her life expectancy.
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StarStrider
•This is such helpful info! My husband and I were just talking about this last week. Didn't realize survivors have more flexibility than spouses do!
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Sean O'Donnell
•That's very helpful - thank you! So if my benefit would be significantly higher than hers, it might make sense for her to take her own reduced benefit early and then switch to the survivor benefit at her FRA. I wasn't sure if the new rules from a few years ago eliminated this option.
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Luca Esposito
I've been thru this when my husband died 2 years ago. The SSA people told me totally WRONG information!!! They said I could only apply for one benefit and that was it forever. I had to talk to THREE different agents before someone finally told me the truth that I could switch later!!! Their phone system is IMPOSSIBLE - I spent 4 hours on hold multiple times and got disconnected. Make sure your wife knows her rights because they won't volunteer the information!!!
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Nia Thompson
•So sorry for your loss. This is exactly what I'm afraid of - getting wrong information and missing out on thousands of dollars in benefits. Sometimes I think they train their people to give the wrong answers to save money. Did you ever figure out the best strategy for your situation?
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Luca Esposito
•Thanks. Yes I eventually got it sorted but only because I was stubborn and kept calling back. I took survivors at 60 since it was way more than my benefit would have been, but everyone's situation is different!
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Mateo Rodriguez
my wifes sister did the switching thing. she got her own ss at 62 then at 66 (her fra was 66) she switched to her dead husbands which was alot higher. she said it worked great for her
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Aisha Abdullah
•This strategy can work well when there's a significant difference between benefit amounts. Just be aware that taking her own benefit at 62 means she'll get approximately 70-75% of her full retirement age benefit. The reduction is permanent for her own benefit, but it doesn't affect the survivor benefit amount. Each case is different depending on work history, benefit amounts, and financial needs.
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Ethan Wilson
When my dad passed, my mom was going to do this exact strategy but then she got confused about whether she could still work part-time while collecting early SS. She ended up just waiting until her FRA to claim the survivor benefit because she was worried about the earnings limit. Does anyone know how that works with survivor benefits?
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Zara Ahmed
•Great question! The earnings test does apply to survivor benefits taken before FRA. For 2025, if you're under FRA for the full year, SSA deducts $1 from benefits for each $2 earned above $22,750. In the year you reach FRA, they deduct $1 for every $3 earned above $60,480 (but only count earnings before the month you reach FRA). After FRA, there's no earnings limit. This is definitely something to factor into the strategy if your wife plans to continue working.
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Nia Thompson
I'm so confused about all this. I've read that if you take survivor benefits early they're reduced permanently? But then some people say you can switch? But what if your own benefit grows while you're taking survivor benefits? Does that mean you should take survivor first and then switch to your own? My head is spinning trying to figure out what would be best for my own situation (similar to yours but I'm 61 and wife is 58).
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Sean O'Donnell
•I feel your pain! This is definitely confusing. From what I understand from the responses here, yes survivor benefits are reduced if taken early, but that reduction doesn't affect your own retirement benefit if you switch later. So it really depends on which benefit is higher and your life expectancy. I'm still trying to sort through it all myself.
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Aisha Abdullah
•You're right to be confused - this is complicated! Here's a clearer explanation: If your wife takes survivor benefits early (as early as age 60), they're permanently reduced. If she takes her own retirement benefits early (as early as 62), those are permanently reduced. BUT - the reduction of one benefit type doesn't affect the other benefit type. So yes, she can take reduced survivor benefits early, let her own retirement benefit grow, and then switch to her own benefit later if it would be higher. Or vice versa. The optimal strategy depends on the specific benefit amounts in your situation.
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Aisha Abdullah
Based on the information you've provided, if your benefit would be $3,100 and your wife's would be $1,850 at their respective FRAs, the optimal strategy would likely be for your wife to take her own reduced retirement benefit at 62 (approximately $1,295/month) and then switch to the survivor benefit at her FRA (67) for the full $3,100/month. This assumes you pass away before starting your own benefits. If you've already started benefits when you pass away, the survivor benefit would be based on what you were receiving. One important note: if she works while receiving her own benefit before FRA, she'll be subject to the earnings test which could temporarily reduce her benefits if she earns above certain thresholds.
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StarStrider
•Thanks for breaking it down so clearly! Do these numbers already account for COLA increases or would those be added on top of these estimates?
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Aisha Abdullah
•Great question. The estimates I provided don't include future COLA increases. Both her own benefit and the survivor benefit would receive COLAs over time. So the actual amounts would likely be higher than these estimates due to inflation adjustments between now and when she claims benefits.
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NeonNova
When I needed to sort out my wife's survivor benefits after my brother died, I spent DAYS trying to reach someone at Social Security. The busy signals and disconnections were insane. Finally found a service called Claimyr (claimyr.com) that got me connected to an actual SSA agent in under 20 minutes. Totally worth it! They have a video showing how it works: https://youtu.be/Z-BRbJw3puU. My sister-in-law was able to get the right info about switching from survivor to her own benefit later, which will save her thousands in the long run.
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Sean O'Donnell
•Thanks for sharing this. I've been putting off calling SSA because I've heard horror stories about the wait times. I'll check out that service. It would be good to confirm all this information directly with them since this is such an important financial decision.
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Luca Esposito
•I wish I'd known about this when I was dealing with my husband's death! Spent literally HOURS on hold only to get disconnected. Getting through to SSA is practically impossible these days.
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StarStrider
Just want to say how helpful this thread is. Planning for the worst while hoping for the best is so important. I'm taking notes for my own situation!
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Sean O'Donnell
•Glad you're finding it useful too! I've learned a lot from everyone's responses. It's definitely giving me peace of mind to have a better understanding of what options would be available.
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Mateo Rodriguez
something else to think about is whether your wife would get the lump-sum death payment. its only $255 which is nothing these days but every bit helps
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Zara Ahmed
•You're right about the lump-sum death payment of $255. It's a small amount that hasn't been increased since the 1950s, but it is automatically paid to a surviving spouse who was living with the deceased. If there's no qualifying spouse, it can be paid to a child who's eligible for benefits on the deceased's record. It's a simple application process when reporting the death to Social Security.
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