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This is such a helpful thread! I'm new to this community but I'm dealing with a very similar situation with my ex-husband who has both a federal pension and Social Security. I've been hesitant to apply for ex-spousal benefits because I assumed his government pension would drastically reduce what I could receive. After reading through everyone's experiences, I realize I may have been completely wrong about how this works. It sounds like his WEP reduction doesn't affect my potential ex-spousal benefits at all - only whether I have my own government pension would trigger GPO for me. I'm definitely going to contact SSA to have my case reviewed. Has anyone had success getting through to SSA recently, or should I try that Claimyr service that was mentioned? I'm 68 and have been collecting my own benefits for 2 years, but now I'm wondering if I've been leaving money on the table this whole time!
Welcome to the community! You're definitely not alone in this confusion - I think a lot of us have been operating under incorrect assumptions about how these benefits work. From everything I've learned in this thread, you're absolutely right that your ex-husband's WEP reduction shouldn't affect your ex-spousal benefits at all. That only impacts HIS benefit amount, not what you can receive as an ex-spouse. As for getting through to SSA, I haven't tried the Claimyr service myself, but Haley mentioned it worked well for her situation. Given that you've been collecting for 2 years already, it might be worth trying both - maybe start with calling SSA directly, and if you can't get through after a reasonable attempt, then consider the Claimyr option. The good news is that even if you have been leaving money on the table, they can still adjust your benefits going forward and potentially give you up to 6 months of retroactive payments. Don't feel bad about not knowing this earlier - it seems like SSA doesn't do a great job of proactively explaining all the options available to people!
Welcome to the community! I'm relatively new here too but have been following this discussion closely since I'm in a somewhat similar boat. What I'm finding really valuable about this thread is how it's cleared up so many misconceptions about WEP and GPO. Like you, I had always assumed that if an ex-spouse has government pensions, it would somehow limit what I could get in ex-spousal benefits. But it sounds like that's completely backwards - it's only YOUR own government pension that would trigger GPO and reduce your spousal/ex-spousal benefits. The WEP just reduces HIS Social Security benefit based on HIS government pension, but doesn't touch what you might be eligible for as an ex-spouse. I'm 67 and have been collecting my own SS for a year, but now I'm second-guessing whether I should have explored ex-spousal benefits more thoroughly. My ex also had military service plus a state job afterward. Reading about Justin getting an extra $400/month and others finding they were eligible for more than they thought is really motivating me to get my situation reviewed too. It's frustrating that we have to become detective investigators just to understand what we're entitled to, but threads like this are so helpful for sharing real experiences!
Welcome! I'm also new to this community but this thread has been incredibly enlightening. It's amazing how many of us have been operating under the same misconceptions about WEP and GPO. Your situation sounds very similar to mine - I've also been collecting my own benefits but never fully explored ex-spousal options because I assumed my ex-husband's government pensions would somehow disqualify or drastically reduce what I could get. This discussion has really opened my eyes to the fact that WEP and GPO work completely differently than I thought. It's encouraging to hear about people like Justin discovering they were eligible for hundreds more per month - it definitely motivates me to stop procrastinating and actually call SSA to get my case reviewed. You're so right that we shouldn't have to become investigators just to understand our own benefits! The fact that SSA apparently doesn't proactively explain these options to people is really frustrating. I'm grateful for communities like this where we can share real experiences and help each other navigate these complex rules.
I'm in a somewhat similar situation and wanted to share what I learned from my SSA appointment last month. Like you, I'm on SSDI and was considering remarriage but needed to understand the financial implications first. The key thing that helped me was getting actual dollar amounts rather than just general rules. When I met with SSA, they were able to pull up my ex-spouse's earnings record and show me exactly what my divorced spouse benefit would be at different ages (62 with reduction vs. full retirement age). In my case, it turned out my SSDI was actually higher than what I'd get from my ex-spouse, so remarriage wouldn't cost me anything financially. One tip: when you call or visit SSA, ask them to run the numbers for both scenarios - your current SSDI converting to retirement benefits vs. potential divorced spouse benefits from your first husband. They can usually do this calculation on the spot if they have both records available. Also, don't forget that if you do decide to remarry later and that marriage ends, you could still potentially claim on your first husband's record at that point since those rights don't disappear permanently. Good luck with getting your answers - I know how stressful this kind of uncertainty can be when you're trying to plan your future!
Thank you so much for sharing your experience! It's really helpful to hear from someone who actually went through the SSA appointment process for a similar situation. I love that you got the actual dollar amounts - that's exactly what I need to do instead of just trying to guess based on general rules. Your tip about asking them to run both scenarios side-by-side is brilliant. I'm definitely going to do that when I get my appointment scheduled. And you're absolutely right about the stress of not knowing - I've been losing sleep over this decision because there's so much conflicting information out there. It's also reassuring to know that if I do remarry and things don't work out, I wouldn't permanently lose those rights from my first marriage. I hadn't really thought about that aspect. Thanks for taking the time to share your story - it really helps to know I'm not the only one navigating these complicated rules!
I'm a Social Security representative and want to clarify a few important points that have come up in this discussion. First, you're correct that being divorced at the time of your second husband's death disqualifies you from survivor benefits from him - there are no exceptions for timing of the divorce. However, I want to emphasize something crucial: at age 60, you're actually already eligible to apply for divorced spouse benefits from your first husband (since that marriage lasted over 10 years), but they would be reduced. You don't have to wait until 62 or full retirement age. The benefit would be reduced to about 32.5% of his full benefit amount at age 60, increasing each month until you reach full retirement age. Since you're currently receiving $1,875 in SSDI, we would need to compare that to what your divorced spouse benefit would be. If the divorced spouse benefit is higher, you could potentially switch now rather than waiting. I'd strongly recommend scheduling an in-person appointment at your local SSA office rather than trying to handle this over the phone. Bring documentation of both marriages and we can run exact calculations for your specific situation. This is too important a financial decision to leave to estimates or general advice.
I'm so sorry for your loss, Carmen. Losing a spouse so young is devastating, and trying to navigate all these financial decisions while grieving is incredibly difficult. From what everyone has shared, it sounds like you have a few strategic options to consider: 1. **Apply now at 63**: You'd get about $370/month after the earnings test reduction, but you'd be locked into that reduced survivor benefit percentage (around 81%). 2. **Wait until you're closer to retirement**: At 65, you'd get ~92% of her benefit, and if you reduce your work hours, less would be lost to the earnings test. 3. **Wait until your FRA at 67**: You'd get 100% of her benefit with no earnings test reduction. The key insight from the discussion is that survivor benefits are unique - you can switch between your own retirement and survivor benefits to maximize your total lifetime benefits. Many financial advisors recommend taking the lower benefit first, then switching to the higher one at age 70 if applicable. Given your situation, I'd strongly recommend getting a personalized benefit estimate from SSA (using that Claimyr service someone mentioned might help you actually reach them). They can run the numbers for your specific case and help you understand exactly what your survivor benefit would be versus your own retirement benefit at different ages. You don't have to make this decision alone, and there's no rush - take time to get all the information you need.
Thank you so much, Ana. Your summary really helps put everything in perspective. I think the consensus from everyone is that waiting until I'm closer to reducing my work hours makes the most financial sense. The switching strategy between survivor benefits and my own retirement is something I hadn't understood before - that flexibility could really help maximize what I receive over my lifetime. I'm going to try that Claimyr service to get specific numbers for my situation, and then probably wait until I'm 65 or so to apply. This community has been incredibly helpful during such a difficult time. Thank you all for sharing your knowledge and experiences.
I'm so sorry for your loss, Carmen. What you're going through is incredibly difficult, and it's completely understandable that all these benefit rules feel overwhelming right now. From everything discussed here, it sounds like you have solid advice about the earnings test and timing strategies. One thing I'd add is to also consider your wife's earnings history when making this decision. If she had significantly higher lifetime earnings than you, the survivor benefit strategy becomes even more valuable. Also, don't forget that when you do apply (whenever that is), you'll want to ask SSA about any potential benefits your wife may have been entitled to but hadn't claimed yet - sometimes there can be small retroactive amounts available. The emotional toll of these decisions while grieving is real. Consider reaching out to a nonprofit credit counseling service or AARP if you need help organizing all your financial planning. They often have counselors who specialize in helping widows and widowers navigate these transitions. Take your time with this decision - as others have noted, you have flexibility with survivor benefits that doesn't exist with other Social Security benefits. Focus on taking care of yourself first.
You can report a death to Social Security by calling their main number at 1-800-772-1213, or by contacting your local Social Security office. You cannot report a death online. Generally, funeral homes will report the death if you provide them with the deceased's Social Security number as part of their services, but it's always good to follow up directly with SSA to ensure everything is properly processed and to discuss any survivor benefits that might be available.
Just wanted to add that if your mother-in-law runs into any issues with the SSA-1724 form or the process, she might want to consider visiting her local Social Security office in person rather than trying to handle everything over the phone. Sometimes the in-person staff can be more helpful and can walk through the paperwork with her. Also, bring multiple copies of the death certificate since they often need to keep one for their records. I had to do this when my grandmother passed and the local office was much more efficient than the phone system.
That's really helpful advice about visiting in person! I'm new to dealing with Social Security issues, but it sounds like having someone walk through the paperwork face-to-face would be much less stressful than trying to figure it out over the phone. Do you know if all local SS offices handle these types of survivor benefit claims, or are there certain locations that specialize in this? Also, is there typically a long wait time for walk-in appointments, or can you usually get seen the same day?
Mei Wong
Welcome to the community! As a newcomer here, I've been following this discussion with great interest since I'm approaching my own FRA in a few months and plan to keep working afterward. The information shared here has been incredibly valuable - especially the real experiences from people like Elliott who actually went through this situation. It's so reassuring to hear multiple confirmations that there truly are NO earnings limits once you reach FRA. I'm particularly grateful for the heads-up about tax implications. I hadn't considered that my Social Security benefits might become substantially taxable when combined with work income. That's definitely something I need to factor into my planning. One additional resource I'd like to mention for anyone still feeling uncertain: the SSA website has a retirement earnings test calculator that can help illustrate how earnings affect benefits at different ages. While it confirms what everyone here has said about FRA, it's sometimes helpful to see it in the official SSA format too. Thanks to everyone who contributed to this thread - you've provided more clarity than hours of online research could deliver!
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Juan Moreno
•Welcome to the community, Mei! I'm also relatively new here and have found this thread to be such a goldmine of practical information. Your point about the SSA retirement earnings test calculator is a great addition - sometimes seeing the official numbers laid out really helps cement the confidence in what everyone here is sharing from experience. I'm about 8 months away from my own FRA and have been wrestling with similar concerns about continuing to work. Reading through everyone's real-world experiences here has been so much more helpful than trying to parse through the dense SSA publications online. The fact that multiple people have actually lived through this exact situation and confirmed there are truly no earnings penalties after FRA gives me so much peace of mind. The tax planning aspect that several folks mentioned is definitely something I need to discuss with my accountant soon. It sounds like the key is just being prepared for the potential tax implications rather than any benefit reductions. Thanks for adding another helpful resource to the mix!
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Emma Olsen
As a newcomer to this community, I want to thank everyone for such a thorough and helpful discussion! I'm currently 64 and planning my retirement strategy, so this thread has been incredibly valuable in understanding what happens when you work past FRA. The consistent message from multiple people with real experience - that there are absolutely NO earnings limits once you reach FRA - is exactly what I needed to hear. It's amazing how much clearer this becomes when you hear from actual people who've lived through it rather than trying to decipher government websites. I'm particularly appreciative of the practical insights about tax implications and the potential for benefit increases from continued work. These are details you don't often see mentioned in the basic "what you need to know about Social Security" articles. One quick question for the group: for those who continued working past FRA, did you adjust your tax withholdings from your paychecks to account for the additional tax burden from having both work income and Social Security benefits? I'm trying to figure out if I should increase my withholding rate or just plan to make quarterly estimated payments. Thanks again to everyone who shared their experiences - this community is such a valuable resource!
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Aisha Ali
•Welcome to the community, Emma! I'm also new here and your question about tax withholdings is really smart - it's something I hadn't thought about yet but definitely should be planning for. From what I've been reading in this thread and researching on my own, it seems like the key is to estimate your total income (work + Social Security) and figure out what tax bracket that puts you in. Since you'll likely have 85% of your SS benefits taxable at your income level, that could definitely bump up your effective tax rate. I've been leaning toward increasing my paycheck withholdings rather than dealing with quarterly payments, just because it's more automatic. But I'm curious what others who've actually been through this would recommend. The practical experiences shared here by people like Elliott have been so much more helpful than any official guide I've found. It really makes a difference hearing from folks who've navigated this exact situation!
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