Social Security divorced spouse benefits - can I find out my ex's benefit amount before filing?
I need some guidance about divorced spouse benefits. I was married for 18 years before divorcing in 2019. I'm turning 62 next month and trying to figure out my filing options. When I called Social Security to ask what my benefit would be if I filed on my ex-husband's record, the representative said I'd have to file for my own benefits first before they could tell me what I'd get on his record. This makes no sense to me - why would I need to file first just to get information? I don't want to apply for my own benefits yet if my ex-spouse benefit would be higher. Is there really no way to compare both amounts BEFORE making a decision? My financial planner suggested I might get more on my ex's record since he was always the higher earner, but I need to know the actual numbers to make an informed choice. Has anyone successfully gotten this information without filing first?
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Liam Murphy
The SSA rep is wrong. You absolutely CAN find out what your benefit would be on your ex's record without filing first. I went through this exact situation last year. You need to specifically request a 'benefit estimate based on your ex-spouse's record' when you call. They might push back at first, but stand your ground. Make sure you have your marriage certificate and divorce decree handy - they sometimes ask for those dates. It took me three calls before I got someone who knew how to do this properly.
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Sasha Ivanov
•Thank you! That's what I suspected. Did you have to provide your ex's Social Security number or anything like that? I have it, but wasn't sure if that would be required.
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Amara Okafor
The confusion might be about the actual filing process versus just getting an estimate. You're absolutely entitled to information about ALL your benefit options before filing. Here's what you need to do: 1. Schedule an appointment (don't just call) with your local SSA office specifically to discuss divorced spouse benefits 2. Bring proof of your marriage duration (marriage certificate + divorce decree) 3. You'll need your ex's name and date of birth at minimum; SSN is helpful but not always required if the marriage was long ago 4. Explicitly ask for benefit estimates for BOTH your own record and ex-spouse benefits Remember that if you're under Full Retirement Age (FRA), you're deemed to be filing for all benefits you're eligible for simultaneously (due to the 2015 law changes). At 62, filing on either record means you're effectively filing on both and will receive the higher amount.
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Sasha Ivanov
•This is incredibly helpful, thank you! I didn't realize the simultaneous filing rule would apply to my situation. Does that mean there's really no strategic advantage to filing on one record versus the other since I'll just get the higher amount anyway?
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CaptainAwesome
I work for a financial planning firm, and we help clients with this exact situation all the time. What the SSA rep told you is incorrect, but it happens CONSTANTLY. The issue is many SSA employees aren't properly trained on divorced spouse benefits. Here's what we tell our clients: Go IN PERSON to your local SSA office (make an appointment first), and specifically ask to speak with a "Technical Expert" who can provide benefit estimates on both your own record and your ex-spouse's record. Bring: 1) Your ex's full name and SSN if you have it 2) Marriage certificate 3) Divorce decree 4) Your own ID and SSN card Also important: since the 2015 elimination of file-and-suspend strategies, at 62 you'll be deemed to be filing for ALL benefits you're eligible for. So you'll automatically get the higher of your own or the divorced spouse benefit (which maxes out at 50% of your ex's FRA benefit if you wait until your own FRA to claim).
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Liam Murphy
•This is spot on! I forgot to mention the "Technical Expert" part - that's exactly who finally helped me. Regular claims reps often don't know how to handle these requests.
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Yuki Tanaka
i had same problem but diferent outcome. they made me file on my own first and i got stuck with lower benefit! been fighting ssa for 8 months to fix it. dont do what i did!!! get it in WRITING what both amounts would be
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Sasha Ivanov
•Oh no, that's exactly what I'm afraid of! I'm so sorry that happened to you. Are you working with anyone to help appeal that decision?
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Esmeralda Gómez
Just wanted to add - your ex doesn't need to be collecting benefits for you to claim on their record. They just need to be eligible (62+). A lot of people don't know that!
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Klaus Schmidt
•Actually that's not completely true. The ex does need to be at least 62, but if you've been divorced for at least 2 years, you can file on their record even if they haven't filed for their own benefits yet. That's called the "divorced spouse benefits independently" rule. But if divorced less than 2 years, then yes, the ex needs to have filed already.
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Aisha Patel
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Sasha Ivanov
•Thanks for the tip! I'll check out that service if I can't get through. My patience with hold music is wearing thin.
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Yuki Tanaka
one thing nobody mentioned yet - if ur still working make sure u understand the earnings test! at 62 they take away benefits if u earn too much ($1 for every $2 over $22,320 in 2025). happened to my sister and she was SHOCKED when they wanted money back
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CaptainAwesome
•Excellent point about the earnings test. This is critical if still working. For 2025, you'll lose $1 in benefits for every $2 you earn above $22,320 until the year you reach FRA, then it becomes $1 for every $3 above $59,520 in the months of that year before your birthday. After FRA, the earnings test goes away completely.
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Klaus Schmidt
The way the rep responded to you sounds like they were confusing two different things. Before Full Retirement Age, there's something called "deemed filing" which means when you file for one benefit, you're deemed to be filing for all benefits you're eligible for. BUT this has nothing to do with your right to GET INFORMATION about potential benefit amounts! Lots of SSA phone reps get this wrong. I'd recommend calling back and speaking to someone different, or better yet, making an appointment at your local office. Ask specifically for benefit ESTIMATES on both records. Don't phrase it as "what would I get if I filed on my ex's record" because some reps interpret that as an application request.
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Sasha Ivanov
•Thank you for clarifying! I think you're right - the rep probably misunderstood what I was asking. I'll be more specific with my language next time and use the word 'estimate' repeatedly.
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LilMama23
Everybody here is making it more complicated than it needs to be. Just go on ssa.gov and create a my Social Security account if you don't already have one. Under benefit estimates, there's an option to calculate different scenarios. You can enter your ex's info there and see what you'd get without having to deal with anyone on the phone.
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Amara Okafor
•I'm sorry, but this is incorrect information. The online benefit calculators on my Social Security do NOT have the ability to calculate divorced spouse benefits. They only calculate your own retirement, disability, and family benefits based on your own record. For divorced spouse benefits, you must speak with an SSA representative.
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Liam Murphy
Just one more thing - if your ex has remarried but you haven't, you can still claim on his record. But if YOU remarry, you generally can't claim on your ex's record anymore (unless that marriage ends too). Just mentioning since I didn't know this before I started researching.
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Sasha Ivanov
•Good to know! I'm still single and don't plan on remarrying anytime soon, but that's definitely important information to keep in mind.
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