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Yara Nassar

Social Security survivor benefits - can I switch to husband's higher benefit if he passes away?

Hi everyone, planning for the future here (though hopefully many years away). My husband just filed for his Social Security retirement at 62 and will get about $2,400 monthly. I'm planning to start mine at 62 as well when I'm eligible in 2027, which should be around $1,500 per month. We're trying to understand survivor benefits - if my husband passes away before me, would I be able to switch and receive his higher benefit amount instead of mine? Or would I be stuck with my lower benefit? I've heard conflicting things about survivor benefits and want to make sure I understand correctly for our long-term planning. Thanks in advance for any insight!

Yes, as his widow you would be eligible to receive his full benefit amount as a survivor benefit. The basic rule is that a surviving spouse gets the higher of either their own benefit or their deceased spouse's benefit - not both. So in your situation, you would get the $2,400 instead of your $1,500. But there are some important timing factors to consider regarding when you claim your own retirement versus survivor benefits.

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Yara Nassar

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Thank you so much for the clear answer! That's a relief to know. Are there any forms or special applications I would need to complete if that situation unfortunately happens? Would the transition be automatic or would I need to contact SSA?

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sorry about thinking of this stuff. My mom went thru this when dad died. She got his benefit but SSA didnt do it automatic. had to bring death certificate to local office and apply for survivors. took almost 2 months to switch over i think

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Yara Nassar

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Thanks for sharing your mom's experience. That's good to know it's not automatic - I'll make a note that I'd need to be proactive about applying. Sorry you and your mom had to go through that.

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Paolo Ricci

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Just to add an important detail: if your husband passes away before you reach your Full Retirement Age (probably 67 for you), and you claim survivor benefits early, you'll face a reduction in those benefits. The reduction is different for survivor benefits than for retirement benefits. For survivors, claiming at age 60 gives you 71.5% of the full benefit, and it increases gradually until FRA when you get 100%. So if you're widowed before your FRA, you might want to consider waiting until your FRA to claim the survivor benefit to get the full $2,400.

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Amina Toure

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This advice is WRONG! The reduction applies to the benefit the deceased was receiving IF they claimed early, not when the survivor claims! Her husband is already taking benefits early at 62, so his benefit is already permanently reduced from what it would have been at FRA. That reduced amount becomes the basis for the survivor benefit. The SSA is so complicated even the "experts" get it wrong half the time!!!

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There's a strategy worth considering in your situation. Since your husband already claimed at 62, if he passes away, you could potentially claim YOUR retirement benefit at 62 as planned, then switch to the higher survivor benefit when you reach your FRA to avoid the early claiming reduction on the survivor benefit. This would give you some income earlier while maximizing the survivor benefit later. The rules allow you to claim your retirement and survivor benefits at different times, unlike spousal benefits which are automatically deemed filed together with retirement benefits.

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Yara Nassar

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That's a really helpful strategy! I had no idea you could claim them at different times. So I could take my $1,500 at 62, then switch to the full survivor benefit at my FRA? That sounds like it could work well if I'm unfortunate enough to be in that situation. Thank you for explaining this option.

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My friend's husband died last year and she had THE WORST time getting through to Social Security to set up her survivor benefits. She was on hold for HOURS and kept getting disconnected. She was crying to me about it because they were behind on bills. The system is broken!!

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Javier Torres

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Amina Toure

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One thing nobody mentioned - when he passes you'll also get a one-time death benefit of $255. I know it's not much but it's something. They don't automatically give it to you, you have to apply for it within 2 years.

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Yara Nassar

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Thanks for mentioning that. $255 doesn't go far these days, does it? But good to know that's available too and that I'd need to specifically apply for it.

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will ur husband's benefit really be 2400 at 62??? that seems really high for early filing. my FRA amount is 1900 but at 62 its only gonna be like 1330. are u sure thats not his FRA amount? makes a big diff for ur plans.

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Yara Nassar

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You know what, you might be right! I might be mixing up the numbers. I'll double-check with him when he gets home. If the $2,400 is his FRA amount and not his age 62 amount, that would definitely change things. Thank you for catching that!

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Another important detail: if your husband passes away while you're still working and under FRA, the earnings test would apply to survivor benefits. In 2025, you can earn up to $22,320 without affecting benefits, but they'll withhold $1 in benefits for every $2 you earn above that limit. This is just temporary though - at FRA, they recalculate and give back the withheld benefits gradually. Something to factor into your financial planning.

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Yara Nassar

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I hadn't even considered the earnings test! I'm planning to work part-time until at least 65, so that's definitely relevant. Is the earnings limit the same for survivor benefits as for regular retirement benefits? And does it matter if I'm claiming my own benefit versus his survivor benefit in terms of how the earnings test is applied?

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Paolo Ricci

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To address your follow-up questions: Yes, the same earnings limit applies whether you're receiving retirement or survivor benefits. The $22,320 limit (plus inflation adjustments in coming years) applies until the year you reach FRA, when the limit is higher for months before your birthday. If you're working and planning to switch between benefits, sometimes it makes sense to take the smaller benefit during high-earning years, then switch to the larger benefit after you retire or reach FRA when the earnings test no longer applies.

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Yara Nassar

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Thank you all so much for these detailed responses! This has been incredibly helpful. I'm making notes of everything so I'll be prepared if I ever need to navigate survivor benefits. I'm going to verify my husband's actual benefit amount at 62 vs. FRA, look into how the dual reductions would work, and make sure I understand the earnings test implications since I plan to work part-time. It's complicated, but I feel much more informed now. Thanks again for all your help!

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Great discussion everyone! As someone new to this community, I wanted to add that it's also worth checking if your state has any additional survivor benefits or programs that might complement Social Security. Some states offer property tax exemptions or other assistance for surviving spouses. Also, don't forget to update beneficiaries on all your accounts (401k, IRA, life insurance, etc.) as part of your planning - these aren't affected by Social Security rules but are crucial for comprehensive survivor planning. The strategy discussions here about timing different benefits are really eye-opening!

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Mei Chen

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Welcome to the community, Sean! That's a great point about state-level benefits - I hadn't thought about that aspect at all. Do you happen to know if there's a good resource for finding out what each state offers? And you're absolutely right about updating beneficiaries on other accounts. I should probably do a full review of all our financial accounts while we're doing this planning. Thanks for bringing up those additional considerations!

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Carmen Vega

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As a newcomer here, I want to echo what others have said about getting professional advice on this complex topic. One thing I learned when helping my aunt through this process is that Social Security has a specific order for how they process survivor applications - they'll actually backdate benefits to the month after death if you apply within certain timeframes, but there are strict deadlines. Also, if you're considering the strategy of taking your own benefit first then switching to survivor benefits later, make sure to get that plan in writing from SSA before implementing it, because different agents sometimes give conflicting advice. The rules are so intricate that even small timing differences can cost thousands over the years. Great question and really helpful responses from everyone!

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