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watch out they might still deposit november $ too and then you DEF have to give that back or theyll come after u!!

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Good point! I'll keep an eye out for any additional deposits and make sure to return anything that comes through.

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Same thing happened when my mom died in 2024. Bank froze everything, not SS taking back money. But dealing with SS afterwards was a nightmare! I had to call like 20 times to report her death and stop payments. They kept sending checks for months after she died even though we reported it multiple times. Then they wanted all that money back years later! Make SURE you document everything when you talk to them.

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That sounds stressful. I'll definitely document all communications with SSA and follow up to make sure they've properly recorded his death. Thanks for the warning.

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wait i just remembered something. my brother also had to deal with this with his wifes check. he said if u cant get a fixed 1099 in time for taxes theres a line on form 1040 somewhere to put "repaid social security benefits" or something. maybe someone who knows more can explain better. but there IS a way to fix it on tax forms if SS is being slow about sending new 1099

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Your brother is partially correct. If the benefits were received and repaid in the same year (as in OP's case), the corrected 1099 is the proper solution. If benefits were repaid in a different year than received, then you'd use the line 7 on Schedule A for "Repayment of income reported in an earlier year" if over $3,000, or as a miscellaneous itemized deduction subject to the 2% floor if under $3,000. But since OP's situation is same-year, a corrected 1099 is the right approach.

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Thank you all so much for the helpful advice! I'm going to try calling the SSA tomorrow morning as soon as they open to request a corrected 1099-SSA. I've gathered all my documentation - the original deposit receipt, bank statement showing the repayment check cleared, and the letter I received from SSA acknowledging the repayment. If I can't get through by phone, I'll try making an appointment at my local office. And I'll definitely check out that Claimyr service if I keep having trouble reaching someone. I really appreciate everyone sharing their experiences. It helps to know I'm not alone in dealing with this confusing situation.

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One more important point: The backpay will come with clear documentation of which tax year each payment portion applies to. This is CRUCIAL for your tax filing. The SSA-1099 form you'll receive will break this down. In addition, once you know her monthly SSDI amount, you should review your overall household budget. Many couples find that qualifying for SSDI may open eligibility for other programs like the Medicare Savings Program, Extra Help with prescription costs, or property tax exemptions in some states. When will your wife reach age 62? At that point, she should check if taking reduced spousal benefits on your record would pay more than her full SSDI amount. Though typically SSDI based on her own record will be higher, it's worth confirming.

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The tax documentation breakdown will be extremely helpful. My wife turns 62 in about 3 years. I earned quite a bit more than she did during our working years, so it might be worth exploring spousal benefits at that time. I'm guessing we'll need to contact SSA again when she reaches 62 to compare the options?

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Yes, you should contact SSA when your wife approaches 62 to evaluate the spousal benefit option. While she can't receive both her own SSDI and spousal benefits simultaneously (she'll only get the higher of the two), the calculation can be complex and depends on your specific earnings histories. Regarding your earlier question about avoiding IRMAA increases: Yes, there's a process for this. When you receive the IRMAA determination (usually in November/December for the following year), you can file for a reconsideration using Form SSA-44, citing the backpay as a one-time income event. This form specifically allows for reporting "life-changing events" that make your current income lower than what appears on your tax return from two years prior. Finally, I highly recommend keeping detailed records of when the backpay is received and how it's spent, especially for any medical expenses which might be deductible.

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This has been incredibly informative. I feel much better prepared now. I'll definitely keep detailed records of the backpay and any medical expenses we use it for. Thank you all for taking the time to share your knowledge and experiences - it's truly helpful during this confusing time.

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To clarify some misinformation in this thread: Social Security payments are protected during government shutdowns because: 1. SS benefits are mandatory spending authorized by permanent law 2. The program has its own dedicated funding source (FICA taxes) 3. The Social Security Trust Fund is separate from general federal revenue During a shutdown, while some SSA services might be limited (like processing new applications or answering general questions), payments to current beneficiaries continue without interruption. Your mother's February payment will arrive on her regular payment date based on her birth date or when she first started receiving benefits. The payment will be her full benefit amount plus the 2025 COLA increase that went into effect in January. If she's concerned about her benefits, she should create a my Social Security account at ssa.gov where she can view her payment schedule and benefit amounts directly.

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Thank you for breaking this down so clearly. I think a lot of the confusion came from news coverage that didn't distinguish between discretionary and mandatory spending. This is really reassuring.

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My friend couldn't get ahold of SSA for TWO WEEKS when she needed to check on her missing January payment!!! They finally figured out it was some bank routing issue but she was almost EVICTED waiting for it to get fixed!!!

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This is unfortunately common right now. SSA offices are understaffed and their phone systems are overwhelmed. For urgent payment issues like potential eviction, she should have contacted her local Congressional representative's office. They have liaison channels to SSA and can expedite emergency cases. Worth remembering for anyone facing critical benefits delays.

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I still think u should double check!!! My friend works at a bank and she says they see ppl with ID problems ALL THE TIME!!! Better safe than sorry!!!

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Banking verification is different from how the SSA processes names. While it's always good to ensure your documents are consistent, the character limitation on SS cards is a known standard practice. What financial institutions look at is the matching of the SSN itself and verification through the SSA's database, where your full name is stored. The physical card's space limitation won't affect this process.

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Thanks everyone for the responses! I called SSA this morning and finally got through to someone who confirmed what most of you said - the card only shows what fits in their printing space, but my full legal name is stored correctly in their system. The agent told me this is completely normal for people with longer names and won't cause any problems. Really appreciate all the help!

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Try calling the SSA to see if they can help with the payment schedule! HAHAHA good luck getting through to anyone. I spent THREE DAYS trying to reach someone about my payment issue last month. Kept getting disconnected or waiting for hours.

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To answer your original question - no, your application or retirement date doesn't affect your payment schedule at all. Only your birthday matters. The system is designed to distribute payments throughout the month to prevent overwhelming their processing systems. For monthly budgeting, I tell my clients to think of their SS payment date as their new "1st of the month" for planning purposes. It requires a mental shift, but after a few months, most people adjust their bill payment timing and everything syncs up nicely.

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Thank you, that makes sense. I guess I need to just accept that the 3rd Wednesday is my new "payday" and plan accordingly. Still feels like the SSA could make this more flexible, but I understand they're dealing with millions of payments.

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Thank you all for the helpful responses! I'm feeling much more confident now. Here's my plan based on everyone's advice: 1. Check my detailed earnings record on mySocialSecurity 2. Request IRS transcripts for any questionable years 3. Start my application process now since I'm turning 70 soon 4. Mention my concerns about the earnings record when I apply 5. Focus only on correcting years that would be in my top 35 I'll report back once I've gone through the earnings history. Fingers crossed there aren't any major issues!

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That sounds like a perfect plan! One more tip: When you look at your earnings record on mySocialSecurity, there's a way to download the entire history as a PDF. Do that and take your time reviewing it. Sometimes seeing it all in one document makes it easier to spot unusual patterns or missing years. Good luck!

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Good luck! And don't forget to decide about Medicare too if you haven't already! That's a whole other thing to worry about lol

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Oh thanks for the reminder! I'm already on Medicare since I signed up at 65, but I should check if there's anything that needs updating when I start receiving Social Security.

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One additional point to consider: if you do decide to take benefits early, make sure to submit your application about 3 months before you want benefits to begin. The application process can sometimes take longer than expected, especially during busy periods. Given your specific circumstances with a relatively small reduction and only being a few months before FRA, this seems like a reasonable case for early claiming. The decision is very personal and depends on your overall financial picture, but preserving emergency savings has significant value.

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Great advice about the 3-month lead time - I'll definitely keep that in mind. Based on everyone's feedback, I'm leaning toward filing a bit early. The peace of mind from keeping my emergency fund intact seems worth the small reduction.

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I cannot BELIEVE how complicated they make all this retirement stuff! In my parents day, you just retired and got your check! Now we need spreadsheets and calculations and 50 different scenarios just to figure out when to take OUR OWN MONEY!!

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the lady at my SSA office told me that college students can get benefits till age 19 if fulltime student!! but sounds like for special needs kids it can go longer with the DAC thing everyone is talking about. good luck!!

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thats only for non-disabled kids, and its only to finish high school not college! They changed the rules years ago so college students dont get extended benefits anymore unless they qualify under disability rules. Really stinks because college is so expensive

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what about the max family benefit thing? isn't there a limit on how much one family can get from one worker's record? might be something to check into

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Good point about the Family Maximum Benefit! This caps the total amount that can be paid on one worker's earnings record. It typically ranges from 150% to 180% of the deceased worker's benefit amount. In this case, since it sounds like only the son is currently receiving benefits on the father's record, they're probably well under the family maximum. If the mother were to eventually qualify for widow's benefits (if her current marriage ends), then the family maximum might come into play.

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Another important factor to consider is that when you take your own retirement benefit early at 62, it's permanently reduced. But if you take survivor benefits early and then switch to your own later, your own benefit continues to grow until you claim it (up to age 70). Also, while the earnings limit for 2024 is $21,240 for people under FRA, you might want to plan for the 2025 amount which will likely be a bit higher after the COLA adjustment. Remember that for every $2 you earn above the limit, they withhold $1 in benefits.

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That's a really good point about my own benefit continuing to grow if I take survivor benefits first. I'll be careful about the earnings limit. My part-time job should keep me under $20,000 annually, so hopefully I'll be safe even with COLA adjustments.

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I recommend writing down all your questions before contacting SSA. They can calculate your survivor benefit amount at different ages (61, 62, FRA) and your own retirement benefit at different ages (62, FRA, 70). Once you have those numbers, you can see which claiming strategy maximizes your lifetime benefits. After my spouse died, I finally got through to SSA after trying for weeks. The rep ran all the numbers for me, and in my case, taking my own reduced benefit at 62 and switching to survivors at my FRA resulted in about $50,000 more in lifetime benefits compared to taking survivors early. Everyone's situation is different though.

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Thank you - that's a really smart approach to write everything down first. $50,000 is a significant difference in lifetime benefits! I'll definitely ask them to calculate the long-term impact of different strategies. I appreciate you sharing your experience.

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