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I'm really sorry for your loss, Ezra. Losing a spouse is incredibly difficult, especially when you're also dealing with health challenges. From what I understand about SSA rules, your survivor benefits should automatically increase to 100% of your husband's Primary Insurance Amount when you reach your Full Retirement Age of 67, since he hadn't started collecting benefits yet. However, given all the stories here about SSA's systems not always working perfectly, I'd definitely recommend being proactive about it. The advice about contacting them 2-3 months before you turn 67 is spot on. You might also want to document everything - keep records of your current benefit amounts and any communications with SSA. This will help if you need to follow up later. The online my Social Security account is also a great tool for sending secure messages when phone waits are impossible. Take care of yourself, and don't hesitate to lean on family or friends for help navigating this process.
Thank you for the kind words and practical advice, Noah. You're absolutely right about documenting everything - that's something I hadn't thought of but makes perfect sense given how complex this all seems. I'm going to start keeping a folder with all my benefit statements and any communications I have with SSA. The idea of having a paper trail feels really important, especially after hearing about cases where the automatic adjustments didn't happen properly. I appreciate everyone in this thread sharing their experiences and advice. It's making me feel much more prepared to handle this transition when the time comes.
I'm so sorry for your loss, Ezra. I went through a very similar situation when my wife passed away two years ago. I was 58, on SSDI for multiple sclerosis, and getting reduced survivor benefits. The good news is that yes, your benefits should automatically increase to 100% of your husband's Primary Insurance Amount when you reach your FRA at 67. Since your husband hadn't started collecting his benefits yet, you won't have to deal with the RIB-LIM reduction that others mentioned. However, I want to stress what others have said about being proactive. My benefits didn't adjust automatically - I had to contact them twice before it got sorted out. I'd recommend reaching out about 3 months before you turn 67 to make sure everything is set up correctly in their system. One practical tip that helped me: I found the best time to call SSA is Tuesday or Wednesday morning right at 8 AM when they open. The wait times are usually shorter then compared to Mondays or Fridays. Also, if you do decide to try that Claimyr service someone mentioned, just be aware there's a fee involved - but it might be worth it given your mobility challenges. The financial relief when the full benefit kicks in should help significantly with those medical costs. Hang in there - you're asking all the right questions and planning ahead, which puts you in a much better position than many people in similar situations.
I'm dealing with something very similar right now! Just got hit with an unexpected $380 deduction last month and had no idea what was happening. Like others mentioned, it turned out to be IRMAA based on my 2022 income when I was still working full-time. The most helpful thing I learned from this thread is to check Medicare.gov for the premium breakdown - I had no idea you could see the detailed charges there. Also going to try that early morning calling strategy since I've been avoiding the phone calls after hearing horror stories about wait times. One question for those who've been through the appeal process - when you submit the SSA-44 form, do they give you any kind of timeline for when you'll hear back? I'm worried about more surprise deductions while waiting for them to review everything. Thanks to everyone sharing their experiences here. It really helps to know we're not alone in dealing with these sudden changes!
Welcome to the club nobody wants to be in! I just went through this exact same nightmare. When I submitted my SSA-44 form for IRMAA reconsideration, they told me it typically takes 30-45 days to process, but mine actually took about 6 weeks to get a decision letter. The good news is that once they approve your appeal (assuming you qualify based on retirement), they should refund any overpayments from when the incorrect IRMAA started. In my case, I got a separate check for about $600 covering 3 months of overcharges. But here's the catch - you might still see the higher deduction for 1-2 more months while they process everything, even after you submit the form. They warned me about this, so don't panic if December is still wrong. Just keep calling to check on the status if you don't hear anything after 6 weeks. Definitely try that 8:15 AM calling trick - it really works! And make sure to get the representative's name and a reference number for your call. Good luck!
I just went through this exact situation a few months ago! That $400+ deduction is almost certainly IRMAA (Income-Related Monthly Adjustment Amount) being collected retroactively. What probably happened is SSA reviewed your 2022 tax return and determined you owed higher Medicare premiums starting from January 2024, but they're just now implementing it by taking larger chunks to "catch up." Since you mentioned retiring in 2023, you absolutely should qualify for an IRMAA appeal! Work stoppage/retirement is one of the qualifying life-changing events. I'd recommend: 1. Download Form SSA-44 immediately and submit it with documentation of your retirement 2. Check Medicare.gov for the detailed premium breakdown - it'll show exactly what they're charging 3. Call SSA at 8:15 AM sharp when they open to avoid the brutal wait times 4. Document everything - names, reference numbers, dates The frustrating part is they'll probably continue the higher deductions for another month or two while processing your appeal, but if approved, they should refund all the overpayments. In my case, I got back about 4 months worth of overcharges. Don't let them give you the runaround like last year - be persistent and keep pushing for resolution. You've got a strong case with the retirement documentation!
I'm new to this community and unfortunately dealing with this exact Medicare premium double payment situation! I've been stuck in this nightmare for about 10 weeks now and was starting to think I'd never see my $210.70 again until I found this incredibly helpful thread. Like so many others here, I was using completely wrong terminology when calling - saying things like "premium billing error" and "duplicate Medicare charge" which just got me transferred around endlessly. Reading through everyone's detailed experiences has been a real eye-opener. I had no idea there was specific language I needed to use, a 6-month deadline, or even that there's a dedicated MPOG department that handles these issues. The advice about using the exact phrase "Medicare premium credit adjustment for a duplicate payment" and having my Medicare.gov account open with the payment confirmation number ready during the call is exactly what I needed to know. It's brilliant preparation that I never would have thought of on my own. It's both incredibly frustrating and oddly reassuring to see how widespread this problem is. Frustrating because you'd think their systems would automatically catch these duplicate payments, but reassuring because so many of you have successfully gotten your money back once you knew the right approach and terminology. I'm planning to call first thing Monday morning right when they open, armed with all the excellent advice from this thread. I'll definitely post an update on how it goes to help other newcomers who might find themselves in this same frustrating situation. Thank you all so much for sharing your experiences and specific tips - this community has been a lifesaver!
Welcome to the community, Dmitry! I'm also brand new here and dealing with this exact same Medicare premium double payment mess. This thread has been absolutely invaluable - I can't believe how much more prepared I feel after reading everyone's detailed experiences and advice. Like you, I was using completely unhelpful terms like "Medicare overpayment" and "billing duplicate" when calling, which explains why I kept getting nowhere. The specific terminology everyone has shared - especially "Medicare premium credit adjustment for a duplicate payment" and asking for the MPOG department - seems to be the breakthrough information I was missing. Having that Medicare.gov payment confirmation ready during the call is such smart preparation too. It's definitely maddening that this is such a widespread issue, but seeing all these success stories gives me real hope that it's solvable once you know the right approach. Good luck with your Monday call - I'll be watching for your update! This community has been amazing for navigating what felt like an impossible bureaucratic nightmare.
I'm also new to this community and unfortunately dealing with this exact Medicare premium double payment situation! I've been fighting this for about 7 weeks now and was getting absolutely nowhere until I stumbled across this incredibly detailed and helpful thread. Like so many others here, I was using completely wrong terminology when calling - saying things like "Medicare overpayment" and "duplicate billing issue" which just resulted in endless transfers to departments that couldn't help me. Reading through all these experiences has been such an eye-opener. I had no idea there was specific language I needed to use, that there's a 6-month deadline, or that there's actually a dedicated MPOG department for these issues. The tip about using the exact phrase "Medicare premium credit adjustment for a duplicate payment" seems to be the key everyone's been missing when they call. And having your Medicare.gov account open with the payment confirmation number ready during the call is such brilliant preparation - I never would have thought of that but it makes perfect sense that having that specific transaction info would help them locate the duplicate payment faster. It's both incredibly frustrating and oddly comforting to see how common this problem is. Frustrating because you'd think their computer systems would automatically catch these duplicate charges, but comforting because so many of you have successfully gotten your money back once you figured out the right approach. I'm going to call tomorrow morning right when they open, armed with all the excellent advice from this thread. I'll definitely post an update on my results to help other newcomers who might be dealing with this same nightmare. Thank you all so much for sharing your detailed experiences - this community has been a complete lifesaver for what felt like an impossible situation!
Just wanted to share my recent experience since I went through this exact same process last year! I applied online in January at age 67 and received my first payment about 5 weeks later in March (for February benefits). The key things that helped speed up my process: 1) Made sure all my W-2s and tax info was up to date in their system beforehand, 2) Double-checked that my direct deposit info was correct in my mySSA account, and 3) Didn't call unless absolutely necessary since that seemed to slow things down. The online status tracker was actually pretty accurate - it went from "pending" to "approved" about a week before I got my first deposit. Since you're at full retirement age and filed online, you're in a good position for faster processing. Fingers crossed you see that payment sooner rather than later!
This is really helpful, thank you! I'm glad to hear about your positive experience. I did make sure my tax information was current and double-checked my banking details before submitting, so hopefully that will help. It's reassuring to know that the online status tracker was accurate for you - I'll keep monitoring mine closely. Five weeks sounds much more reasonable than some of the horror stories I was reading about. Thanks for sharing the specific timeline and tips!
I went through this same process about 6 months ago and wanted to share what helped me get accurate information. While waiting for processing, I found that creating a my Social Security account online (if you don't already have one) was invaluable. Not only can you track your application status there, but you can also see your estimated benefit amount and payment schedule once approved. One thing that caught me off guard was that your first payment date depends on when your application gets fully processed, not just when you applied. So even though you applied in February, if processing takes a few weeks, your first payment might still follow the normal schedule based on your birth date (sounds like that would be the third Wednesday for you). The good news is that once you're in the system, payments are very reliable. I'd recommend checking your online account every few days rather than calling - the phone wait times are brutal and the online info is usually more current anyway.
This is really solid advice about using the online account! I'm new to all this Social Security stuff and honestly feeling a bit overwhelmed by all the different timelines people are mentioning. It sounds like the key takeaway is that even though I applied in February, my actual first payment timing will depend more on when they finish processing everything rather than when I submitted it. That makes sense but is a little frustrating from a budgeting perspective. I'll definitely avoid calling based on what everyone's saying about the wait times - seems like the online portal is the way to go. Thanks for the heads up about the payment schedule being tied to birth date once you're in the system!
Rajiv Kumar
I've been a representative payee for my disabled sister for about 7 years now and have gone through several redeterminations. The anxiety before your first one is totally normal - I remember barely sleeping the night before! Here's what really helped me prepare and might ease your nerves: **Essential documents to have ready:** - Last 6 months of bank statements for his accounts - A simple breakdown of monthly expenses (rent/housing, food, medical, personal items) - Any documentation of his disability status - List of his current medications if he takes any **Questions they typically ask:** - Confirm his current address and living situation - How household expenses are divided (since he lives with you) - Whether he has any income besides SSI - If he's attempted any work activities - Current account balances and any assets over $2,000 - How you spend his SSI funds each month **Pro tips:** - Have a calculator ready - they might ask you to add up expenses on the spot - Keep his Social Security number handy for verification - Don't stress about perfect documentation - they understand we're family members, not accountants - The agent will likely be patient if you need to look something up Since your brother has intellectual disabilities and you're his legal guardian, they'll mainly want to confirm his situation is stable and he still needs assistance managing benefits. The call usually takes 30-40 minutes. You're already being a great advocate by preparing ahead of time. The interview will go much smoother than you expect!
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Natasha Kuznetsova
•This is such a comprehensive and reassuring overview - thank you! I love how you've organized everything into clear sections with the essential documents, typical questions, and pro tips. The detail about having a calculator ready and keeping his Social Security number handy are exactly the kind of practical advice I needed but wouldn't have thought of myself. Your point about them understanding we're family members rather than professional accountants really helps put this in perspective. I've been worried about having every receipt perfectly organized, but it sounds like they're looking for general responsibility and transparency rather than accounting perfection. The 30-40 minute timeframe is really helpful for planning too. I'm definitely going to use your document checklist to get everything organized this week. It's so reassuring to hear from someone who's been through multiple redeterminations - knowing it gets easier with experience gives me hope that I'll feel more confident about future calls once I get through this first one. Thank you for taking the time to share such detailed guidance!
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Ravi Sharma
I'm a newer member of this community and just started as a representative payee for my elderly father about 4 months ago. This entire thread has been incredibly educational and honestly a huge relief! I was dreading the inevitable redetermination call, but reading everyone's detailed experiences has given me a clear roadmap for preparation. A few things I wanted to highlight that really stood out to me: - The importance of that $2,000 resource limit tracking - I had no idea temporary overages could be such an issue - Creating organized folders and cheat sheets ahead of time seems like a game-changer for staying calm during the call - The reassurance that agents are generally patient and understand we're family members doing our best, not professional accountants I'm definitely going to start implementing the daily balance tracking spreadsheet and monthly expense categorization that several people mentioned. It's amazing how this thread has transformed what felt like an intimidating bureaucratic process into something manageable with the right preparation. Thank you to everyone who took the time to share their real experiences - both the smooth ones and the more challenging ones. This community support is exactly what families like ours need when navigating these complex systems!
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