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TWC denied medical-related separation - appeal hearing affirmed prior ruling despite employer contradictions

I'm at my wit's end with this TWC appeal process. I was initially denied benefits because TWC determined I 'voluntarily quit due to health concerns' but that's completely misrepresenting what happened.\n\nBasically, I had a serious eye infection that required surgery (had to remove a cyst). The day I left work, I was experiencing complications - literally could feel blood on my face from the surgical site. My manager knew about my condition and upcoming follow-up surgery. When I said I needed to leave due to medical issues, they immediately cut off my email access that SAME DAY.\n\nTo me, cutting off access = termination. The owner even asked for his key back and reminded me about my NDA in writing. How is that not being fired?\n\nAt my appeal hearing, the employer completely changed their story! First they claimed I quit, then when questioned by the hearing officer, they switched to saying I 'abandoned my job' by not showing up the next day. How could I show up when they'd already cut my access?\n\nThe hearing officer even directly asked my employer if they had reason to think I would be fired, and they said no - contradicting their own actions of cutting access immediately.\n\nThe strangest part? The day after my hearing, my TWC portal just says 'affirm prior ruling' with zero explanation. All the evidence points to wrongful termination, not quitting.\n\nThe employer even falsified a write-up to please a client (which they denied during the hearing). I have recordings of conversations and emails proving my side.\n\nDoes anyone know an employment attorney in DFW who handles TWC appeals? Can I request a new hearing based on the employer's contradictions? I'm really struggling financially and this denial feels completely unjust.

This is absolutely infuriating to read! As someone who's dealt with TWC appeals before, your case is a textbook example of wrongful termination being disguised as voluntary separation. The fact that they immediately cut your email access and demanded company property back THE SAME DAY you left for a medical emergency is smoking gun evidence of termination. What really gets me fired up is how your employer had the nerve to change their story mid-hearing from "quit" to "job abandonment" - that should have been an immediate credibility red flag! You can't just switch your reasoning when the original story doesn't work. Your documentation sounds incredibly strong: emails about keys/NDA, proof of access revocation, medical records, and especially that recording. The timeline is crystal clear - you had a legitimate medical emergency (bleeding from surgical site), informed them you needed to leave, and they immediately took termination actions. Definitely file that Commission Appeal within 14 days! The Commission reviewers are typically much more thorough than initial hearing officers and they specifically look for employer contradictions like this. Make sure to emphasize how their story completely changed during the hearing - that's going to destroy their credibility. Don't let this employer manipulate the system to avoid paying rightful benefits. You were clearly terminated for having a medical emergency, which is exactly what unemployment is designed to cover. Fight this with everything you've got - your evidence is solid and you deserve justice!

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This entire thread has me so angry for you! @8bffac711774 is absolutely right - your case is textbook wrongful termination disguised as voluntary separation. The immediate email access revocation is the smoking gun here. What really bothers me is how the hearing officer seemed to just gloss over the employer's blatant contradiction. Going from "he quit" to "job abandonment" in the same hearing should have stopped everything right there. That's not a minor detail - that's completely changing the fundamental reason for separation! @a7edb40dd9e6 when you file your Commission Appeal, I'd recommend starting with something like "The employer provided contradictory and inconsistent testimony during the hearing, first claiming voluntary separation then changing to job abandonment when questioned." Lead with their credibility issues right up front. Your timeline is bulletproof: medical emergency → you inform them → they immediately revoke access and demand keys back. No employer takes those actions for someone who "voluntarily quit" - that's standard termination procedure. The fact that you have emails and recordings documenting all of this makes your case incredibly strong. Keep fighting this - you're not just fighting for yourself but for every worker who's been screwed over by employers trying to game the unemployment system!

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This situation is absolutely outrageous and I'm so sorry you're dealing with this! The fact that your employer immediately cut your email access and demanded company property back on the SAME DAY you left for a medical emergency is crystal clear evidence of termination, not voluntary separation. What really stands out to me is how they completely changed their story during the hearing - going from "he quit" to "job abandonment" when pressed by the hearing officer. That kind of contradiction should have been a huge red flag about their credibility. You can't just switch your narrative mid-hearing when the first version doesn't work! Your documentation sounds incredibly strong: the emails requesting keys and mentioning NDA, proof of immediate access revocation, medical records, and especially that recording. The timeline is bulletproof - you had a legitimate medical emergency with bleeding from your surgical site, informed them you needed to leave, and they immediately took standard termination actions. Definitely file that Commission Appeal within the 14-day window! Based on what others have shared, the Commission reviewers are much more thorough than the initial hearing officers and specifically look for these kinds of employer contradictions and credibility issues. Don't let this employer manipulate the system to avoid paying benefits you rightfully deserve. You were clearly terminated for having a medical emergency - exactly the situation unemployment benefits are designed to cover. Keep fighting with all that evidence you have!

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This whole thread has been so helpful and encouraging! @c3c812885916 you're absolutely right about the timeline being bulletproof. I never thought about it that way but you're spot on - what employer immediately revokes access and demands keys back from someone who "voluntarily quit"? That's literally their termination checklist! Reading everyone's responses has really opened my eyes to how strong my case actually is. I was starting to second-guess myself after that hearing, but seeing multiple people point out the same obvious issues with my employer's contradictory testimony gives me so much confidence. I'm definitely filing the Commission Appeal this week - within that 14-day window for sure. The idea about leading with their credibility issues and contradictions is brilliant. Going from "quit" to "job abandonment" in the same hearing is such an obvious red flag that somehow got completely overlooked. Thank you all for taking the time to break this down and give such detailed advice. This community is amazing and I feel so much more prepared to fight this now. Will definitely update once I hear back from the Commission!

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Hey Diego! I've been following this thread and wow, what an incredible resource this has become for anyone dealing with late employer appeals. The advice everyone has shared is absolutely comprehensive - from the specific legal citations to the tactical hearing preparation tips. I wanted to add one more angle that might be helpful: if your employer tries to argue they had "good cause" for the delay during the hearing, you should be prepared to counter that the only acceptable forms of good cause are typically things like hospitalization, natural disasters, or postal service failures - NOT ignorance of the rules or financial concerns about chargeback costs. The fact that they were able to file the appeal (proving they knew how to engage with the system) but chose not to respond to multiple prior notices really undermines any good cause argument they might attempt. Your case has basically become a masterclass in how to handle this exact situation. Between the clear 14-day violation, the 2-month delay, the pattern of total non-participation, and your solid layoff documentation, you're hitting on every possible angle. Really looking forward to your update after Thursday's hearing - this thread is going to be such a valuable resource for future people dealing with similar situations. You've got an army of people rooting for you! 🙌

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Thank you so much for pointing out the "good cause" standards! That's such an important detail I hadn't fully considered. You're absolutely right that ignorance of the rules or financial concerns definitely don't qualify as acceptable reasons for a 2-month delay. The fact that they were clearly capable of engaging with the TWC system (since they managed to file the appeal) but chose to ignore everything until money was involved really does destroy any good cause argument. This thread has honestly been life-changing in terms of understanding how to approach this situation. I went from feeling completely overwhelmed and worried about having to pay back benefits to feeling confident and well-prepared with multiple strong arguments. The combination of everyone's real experiences, legal knowledge, and tactical advice has been incredible. I'm definitely planning to post a detailed update after Thursday's hearing - win or lose, I think documenting exactly how the procedural objection plays out could really help others facing similar situations. But honestly, after reading about all the successful cases shared here and seeing how clear-cut the rule violations are in my situation, I'm feeling very optimistic about getting this dismissed on procedural grounds alone. Thank you again for all the support and encouragement! It really means a lot to have so many people sharing their knowledge and rooting for a good outcome. I'll be back Thursday afternoon with hopefully great news to share! 🙌

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This has been such an incredibly thorough and helpful discussion! As someone who's currently dealing with my own TWC appeal situation (employer filed 3 weeks late), I've learned more from this thread than from hours of trying to navigate TWC's website and phone system. Diego, your case really highlights how systematic this problem has become - employers completely ignoring the initial process until the financial impact hits, then suddenly wanting to challenge everything after missing all their deadlines. The 2-month delay in your situation is so egregious that it should be an easy procedural dismissal. What's been most valuable to me is seeing the specific language everyone has suggested for the opening statement and the multiple angles of attack (14-day rule, pattern of non-participation, suspicious timing with chargeback notices). I'm definitely going to use the approach of requesting dismissal for procedural violations before any discussion of merits. The success stories shared here give me so much hope that these procedural protections actually work when you know how to present them properly. It's clear that TWC designed these deadlines specifically to prevent the kind of bad faith behavior your employer is displaying. Best of luck with your hearing Thursday! Please do post that detailed update afterward - this thread is going to be a goldmine for anyone facing similar late appeals. You've got this! 💪

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Thank you so much for sharing your experience with a 3-week delay situation! It's both frustrating and reassuring to see how widespread this pattern has become - employers just ignoring everything until it hits their wallet. Your timeline is actually quite similar to some of the other successful cases mentioned in this thread, so you should definitely feel confident about using the same procedural arguments. I'm really glad this discussion has been helpful for your own situation! The community knowledge shared here has been absolutely incredible - from the specific legal citations to the tactical presentation strategies. Having that exact language for requesting dismissal due to procedural violations before discussing merits seems to be the key approach that's worked for multiple people. It's encouraging to hear that you're planning to use the same strategy with your 3-week delay case. Even though yours isn't quite as egregious as my 2-month situation, the 14-day rule is the 14-day rule - they either responded within the deadline or they didn't. The pattern of bad faith behavior is still clearly there. I'll definitely post a comprehensive update after Thursday's hearing with all the details about how the procedural objection actually plays out in real time. Hopefully it will be good news that helps you and others feel even more confident about challenging these opportunistic late appeals. We've all followed the rules properly while our employers ignored theirs - the system should protect us! 💪

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I'm really sorry you're going through this stress - the uncertainty is honestly the worst part. I went through almost the exact same situation last year with a $4,500 overpayment and was making my $180 monthly payments religiously. Unfortunately, TWC still intercepted my entire $3,400 refund even though I was current on all payments. What I learned is that the Treasury Offset Program and your TWC payment plan are completely separate systems that don't communicate with each other. Once you got that TOP notice in December, your debt was already certified for federal tax intercept regardless of your payment status. My advice: Call TWC tomorrow and ask specifically if your account has been "certified to Treasury for offset" - this will give you a definitive answer instead of worrying about what might happen. Also ask for your current total balance including any interest or fees so you know exactly where you stand. I know it's devastating when you're counting on that money, but try to think of it as a forced payment that will get you debt-free much faster. My intercept knocked off about 75% of my balance, and I was completely done with the debt in 6 more months instead of dragging it out for 2+ years with monthly payments. It sucked at the time but was actually a blessing in disguise. Hang in there and definitely update us on what you find out!

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Thank you Carmen for sharing your experience and the encouraging perspective! I think I've been dreading making that call to TWC because I know what they're probably going to tell me, but you're absolutely right that getting a definitive answer is better than this constant worry. The way you frame it as a "forced payment" and "blessing in disguise" really helps - I hadn't thought about how much interest I'll save by paying off a big chunk all at once instead of dragging it out for years. Your timeline of being completely debt-free in just 6 additional months after the intercept is actually pretty motivating. I'm going to call TWC first thing tomorrow morning and get the full picture of my situation. Thanks so much for the support and practical advice - it really helps to know I'm not alone in dealing with this!

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I went through this exact situation about 6 months ago and unfortunately they did take my entire refund even though I was making regular payments. I had a $3,900 overpayment and was paying $165 monthly like clockwork, but TWC still intercepted my full $2,400 refund through the Treasury Offset Program. The hard truth is that once you received that TOP notice in December, your debt was already certified for federal intercept. Your payment plan with TWC and the Treasury Offset Program are completely separate - they don't coordinate at all. Being current on payments doesn't protect your refund once you're in the TOP system. I know this isn't what you want to hear, but there is a silver lining. That intercepted refund gets applied directly to your principal balance, so you'll save a ton on interest and be debt-free much faster than sticking to monthly payments. My intercept knocked off about 60% of my total debt, and I paid off the rest in just 4 more months instead of years. My advice is to call TWC and confirm your exact status - ask if you're "certified to Treasury for offset" so you know for sure. Then adjust your budget expectations accordingly. It sucks in the moment but honestly getting that debt behind me so quickly was worth it in the end.

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Just to clarify some confusion I'm seeing in the comments: TWC treats self-employment differently than regular W-2 employment when calculating your initial benefit amount. Self-employment income typically doesn't count toward your base period wages that determine your weekly benefit amount (WBA), but you still must report any current self-employment earnings during your payment requests. However, it's crucial to disclose all types of work on your initial application for accuracy. Then during each payment request, report all earnings before taxes for that week. If your weekly DoorDash earnings are less than your WBA, you'll receive partial benefits equal to your WBA minus a portion of your earnings.

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Wow, this explains so much! I've been doing gig work while on unemployment and was always confused about the partial benefits calculation. One quick question - when you report DoorDash earnings, do you report the gross amount before expenses like gas and car maintenance, or can you deduct those business expenses first? I know with regular jobs it's before taxes, but self-employment seems trickier.

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For DoorDash and other gig work, you typically report the gross earnings (before expenses) to TWC. So that would be your total earnings from deliveries including tips, before deducting gas, car maintenance, etc. TWC wants to see your actual income received, not your net profit after business expenses. The expense deductions are something you handle separately on your tax return, but for unemployment reporting purposes, stick with the gross amount you actually earned that week.

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Just wanted to share my experience since I went through something similar last year. I had been doing Uber Eats while collecting unemployment and forgot to mention it on my initial application. When I finally got through to TWC (took about 2 weeks of calling), the representative was actually really helpful. She explained that as long as you're being honest about your weekly earnings during payment requests, they typically won't penalize you for the oversight on the initial claim. They updated my file to include the gig work and recalculated going forward, but I didn't have to pay anything back since I had been reporting correctly each week. The key is definitely getting to a real person though - the automated system can't make these kinds of updates to your original claim information.

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I just want to echo what everyone else has said - this thread is so helpful for first-time filers! I'm currently on my 6th payment and can confirm that after that initial nerve-wracking wait, the timing becomes super predictable. My payments now hit my account every other Thursday like clockwork, exactly 48 hours after I submit my payment request. One thing I wish someone had told me early on is to screenshot your payment request confirmation page each time you submit - it saved me once when there was a glitch and TWC couldn't find my request in their system. Also, don't forget that you can check your payment history in the "View and Maintain Account Information" section to track patterns. Tyler, glad your money came through and hope this helps future folks who stumble across this thread!

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@Aiden Chen Great advice about screenshotting the confirmation pages! I learned that lesson the hard way when I had a technical issue a few weeks ago and couldn t'prove I had submitted my request on time. TWC s'system can be glitchy sometimes, so having that documentation is really smart. Also totally agree about checking the payment history - it s'helpful to see the pattern develop. For anyone new to this, I d'also recommend bookmarking the TWC login page and setting a recurring calendar reminder for your bi-weekly payment request dates so you never miss the deadline. Missing even one request can mess up your whole claim timeline.

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This whole thread is gold for anyone dealing with their first TWC payment! I'm bookmarking it for sure. Just wanted to add one more thing that helped me when I was in Tyler's shoes - if you're really stressed about timing and need to track exactly when your bank receives ACH deposits, most banks show "pending" deposits in your account before they fully process. So you might actually see the money listed as "pending" a day before it's available to spend. This helped calm my nerves because at least I could see it was coming. Also, some credit unions are faster than big banks with ACH processing, so your specific bank can affect timing too. But yeah, 3-4 business days for first payments is totally normal across the board!

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