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I've been dealing with the same confusion with my small pottery business! After reading through all these responses and doing my own research, it's definitely NET income you should report. I made the mistake of reporting gross for my first few certifications and was basically cheating myself out of benefits I was entitled to. The way I think about it now - if I sell $500 worth of pottery but spent $300 on clay, glazes, kiln firing, and shipping, I only actually "earned" $200 that week. That's what unemployment cares about - your actual profit, not your total sales. I finally got through to an agent last week (took forever calling directly) and she confirmed this is correct. She also mentioned that if you've been reporting wrong, you can usually get it corrected by explaining the confusion. The system really should make this clearer though - so many people are struggling with the same question! Keep detailed records of everything - receipts, materials costs, platform fees, shipping. If they ever audit you, you'll need to prove your expenses were legitimate business costs. Good luck with your Etsy shop!
Thank you so much for sharing your experience! It's really reassuring to hear from someone else who went through the exact same confusion. I was starting to feel like I was the only one struggling with this. Your pottery example makes it super clear - I'm definitely going to start thinking about it that way. How did you finally manage to get through to an agent? I've been trying the regular phone line with no luck. Also, when you say they can correct past certifications, did you have to provide all your expense documentation right away or was it more of a simple adjustment?
@Zainab Abdulrahman This is such helpful advice! I ve'been making pottery as a hobby for years and just started selling pieces online recently. Your example about the $500 sales vs $200 actual profit really clicked for me. I ve'been so stressed about reporting this correctly since I got laid off from my teaching job last month. Did the agent give you any specific guidance about timing - like if I make a piece one week but don t'sell it until the next week, which week do I report the income in? Also curious how long the correction process took for your past certifications?
I'm in a similar situation with my freelance graphic design work while on unemployment! After reading all these responses, I'm convinced it's NET income we should report. The confusion is real though - I called NY unemployment 4 times and got 3 different answers from different agents. What finally made it click for me was thinking about it like taxes. When you file as self-employed, you report your profit after business expenses on Schedule C, not your gross receipts. Unemployment should work the same way since they're both government programs looking at your actual earnings. I've been keeping a weekly spreadsheet tracking my income and expenses - client payments minus software subscriptions, equipment costs, home office expenses, etc. It's tedious but worth it for peace of mind. One thing I learned the hard way - make sure you're reporting income in the week you actually DO the work, not when you get paid for it. I had a client pay me $800 for a project I completed 3 weeks earlier, and I almost reported it in the wrong week. The whole system is unnecessarily confusing but at least we're all figuring it out together! Good luck with your jewelry business - handmade Etsy shops are so much work but really rewarding.
Wait, I thought there was something called extended benefits? Or is that only in certain situations? I'm confused about what happens after regular UI ends.
Extended Benefits (EB) only kick in when unemployment rates hit certain triggers, and NY hasn't met those thresholds recently. Right now there's no automatic extension program running.
I'm so sorry you're going through this stress - it's absolutely exhausting when you're doing everything right but the system just isn't working. Have you looked into whether you might qualify for any training programs through the Department of Labor? Sometimes they have WIOA (Workforce Innovation and Opportunity Act) funding that can provide income support while you're in approved training for in-demand jobs. It's not the same as unemployment but could be a lifeline. Also, if you haven't already, register with your local One-Stop Career Center - they sometimes know about job openings that aren't posted publicly and can help with resume review or interview prep. Hang in there, this market is brutal but you're not alone in this struggle.
This is really helpful advice! I didn't know about WIOA funding - that sounds like it could be exactly what I need. Do you know how to find out what training programs are available or how to apply? I've been so focused on just trying to find any job that I haven't looked into retraining options. At this point I'm willing to learn new skills if it means better job prospects and some income support while doing it.
quick question - did you find the rover gig on your own or did unemployment send you there? trying to find some side work myself
Just wanted to add - make sure you're keeping detailed records of your actual work activities for each day! I learned the hard way that unemployment can ask for documentation if they audit your claim. I use a simple note-taking app to track feeding times, walks, any cleaning, etc. Takes like 2 minutes but covers you if they ever question your reported hours. Better safe than sorry!
This thread is so helpful! I'm dealing with something similar - filed my claim 10 days ago and keep getting the "unable to process your request" error when trying to certify. The rep told me to claim last Sunday but nothing worked. Reading everyone's experiences here is really reassuring - sounds like this is just how the NY system works unfortunately. I'm going to wait another week before calling again, but that Claimyr service sounds like it could save me hours of being on hold if I do need to call. Quick question for those who've been through this - when your claim finally got approved and you could certify, did you have to certify for each missed week individually or did the system let you do them all at once? Just trying to prepare for when mine hopefully gets processed!
Hey there! I can answer your question about certifying for missed weeks - when my claim finally got approved after 2.5 weeks of being stuck, the system automatically prompted me to certify for all the weeks I had missed. It was actually pretty smooth - I just had to go through each week one by one answering the usual questions (did you work, did you look for work, etc.) but I could do them all in the same session. The whole process took maybe 15-20 minutes to certify for 3 weeks of missed claims, and then I got my payment (including all the backpay) within a couple days after that. So don't worry - the system definitely keeps track of which weeks you're owed once everything gets sorted out! Hang in there, sounds like you're right on track with the typical timeline based on what everyone else has shared. The waiting is the worst part but it does get resolved eventually! 🤞
I'm experiencing the exact same issue right now! Filed my claim about 10 days ago and the rep told me to start claiming this past Sunday, but I keep getting error messages when I try to certify. It's so frustrating because you follow their instructions exactly and then the system just blocks you. Reading through all these comments has been incredibly helpful though - it sounds like this is unfortunately just a common glitch in how NY processes new claims. The disconnect between what the phone reps tell you and what the computer system actually allows seems to be a recurring theme. I'm going to wait another week before trying to call again, but I might look into that Claimyr service if the wait times are still crazy long. The fact that everyone who went through this eventually got their backpay once the claim was fully processed is really reassuring. Thanks to everyone who shared their experiences - it's such a relief to know this is normal and not something I messed up during my application!
CosmicCowboy
UPDATE: I went to the career center this morning and got exactly what I needed! They printed a UI Monetary Benefit Determination letter showing my claim details including the end date of September 6th. Took about 45 minutes total with the wait. The staff was really helpful. Thanks everyone for your suggestions!
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Ravi Malhotra
•That's awesome! Glad it worked out for you. In-person is definitely the way to go with these kinds of things.
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Emma Thompson
•Thanks for the update! I'm gonna try the same thing tomorrow.
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Mason Kaczka
For anyone else dealing with this, I just want to add that if you're in a time crunch like I was last month, you can also try contacting your local assemblyperson's office. They often have direct lines to state agencies and can help expedite document requests. I got my unemployment end date letter within 2 business days after their office made a call on my behalf. Worth trying if the career center is too far or if you're hitting roadblocks with the other methods!
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Giovanni Rossi
•That's a great tip! I had no idea assemblyperson offices could help with state agency issues like this. Do you just call their main office number and explain what you need? I'm dealing with a similar situation right now where I need documentation from another state agency and this could be really helpful.
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