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Alberto Souchard

Solo 401k - where to deduct on Sch C or Sch 1 for self-employed?

I'm going completely self-employed for 2025 (besides some investment income from dividends and capital gains) and I want to set up a retirement account that makes sense for my situation. I've been reading about solo 401k plans but I'm confused about how the contributions get deducted on my tax return. When I went through the Schedule 1 instructions (line 16 is for retirement plans I think), they talk a lot about SEP IRAs and SIMPLE IRAs with clear guidelines, but the mentions of solo 401k or individual 401k plans seem kind of vague and not as straightforward. This has me worried because you'd think solo 401ks would be super common for self-employed people and the IRS would make the instructions really clear. But the publications I've looked at (including Pub 560) don't seem to explicitly spell out how to handle solo 401k deductions. Assuming solo 401k contributions ARE deductible (which I think they are?), do I deduct them on Schedule C to reduce my business income, or on Schedule 1 as an adjustment to income? And are there any specific forms I need to file along with my return to document the contributions? I'm trying to make sure I do everything right before I set this up. Any advice from someone who's actually done this would be really helpful!

The good news is that yes, Solo 401k contributions are absolutely deductible - they're one of the best tax advantages for self-employed individuals! The reason it seems less clear in the instructions is that they're sometimes referred to as "one-participant 401k plans" or "individual 401k plans" in IRS documentation. For your Solo 401k, you'll have two types of contributions: the employer portion (which is based on your net earnings from self-employment) and the employee portion (similar to regular 401k deferrals). The employer portion gets deducted on Schedule 1, Line 16 (Retirement plans, etc.) - not on Schedule C. This is an adjustment to income, not a business expense. The employee portion is also reported as an adjustment to income but doesn't directly show up on your 1040 because it already reduces your income on your W-2... except since you're self-employed, it will also go on Schedule 1, Line 16. Make sure you set up your Solo 401k before December 31, 2025, though you can contribute until your tax filing deadline (including extensions) for the employer portion.

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Thanks for the detailed answer! Quick follow-up question - is there a maximum amount I can contribute as both employer and employee? And do I need to file any specific forms with the IRS to document my Solo 401k?

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For 2025, as an employee, you can contribute up to $23,000 (or $30,500 if you're 50 or older with catch-up contributions). As the employer, you can contribute up to 25% of your net self-employment income after deducting the employer portion of self-employment tax and the employer contribution itself, with a combined limit of $69,000 total (employee + employer contributions). You don't need to file any special forms with your tax return to document the contributions, but once your Solo 401k reaches $250,000 in assets, you'll need to file Form 5500-EZ annually. Make sure you keep good records of your contributions for your tax records.

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Another option to consider is a SEP IRA instead of a Solo 401k. I switched from Solo 401k to SEP last year because the paperwork is much simpler and the deduction is more straightforward on Schedule 1. The contribution limits are pretty similar if you're self-employed with good income. With a SEP, you can contribute up to 25% of your net self-employment earnings (after deducting half of self-employment tax), up to $69,000 for 2025. The downside compared to Solo 401k is you don't get the separate employee contribution portion, which can matter if your income isn't super high.

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But doesn't a Solo 401k let you contribute more if you have lower income? I thought with a SEP you're limited to just the 25% of profit, while with Solo 401k you get that PLUS the employee contribution even if your business doesn't make much.

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You're absolutely right. That's the main advantage of a Solo 401k over a SEP IRA when your income is lower. With a Solo 401k, you can make that employee contribution of up to $23,000 (or $30,500 if over 50) regardless of your profit level, plus the employer portion up to 25% of net earnings. So if you're making less than about $92,000 in net self-employment income, you can typically contribute more to a Solo 401k than a SEP IRA. I switched because my income is higher and I preferred the simpler administration of the SEP, but for many self-employed people, especially those just starting out, the Solo 401k allows for higher contributions.

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Has anyone used TurboTax to handle their Solo 401k deductions? I'm trying to figure out if their self-employed version walks you through this correctly or if I need to manually enter things somewhere.

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I used TurboTax Self-Employed last year for my Solo 401k and it handled it fine. It asks about retirement plans during the interview process and guides you to enter both the employer and employee portions. It automatically puts them on Schedule 1 line 16. Just make sure you have your contribution amounts documented before you start.

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I just went through this exact process when I set up my Solo 401k last year! The confusion about where to report it is totally understandable - I made the same mistake initially. Just to reinforce what Katherine mentioned, both the employer and employee portions of your Solo 401k contributions go on Schedule 1, Line 16 as adjustments to income. DO NOT put them on Schedule C as business expenses - that's a common error that can get you in trouble. Here's what helped me understand it: Think of yourself as wearing two hats. As the "employee," you're deferring salary (even though you don't technically get a salary as self-employed). As the "employer," you're making a retirement contribution for your employee (yourself). Both of these reduce your taxable income but they're not business operating expenses. One thing to watch out for - make sure your Solo 401k provider gives you clear documentation showing the breakdown between employer and employee contributions. You'll need this for your records and it makes tax time much smoother. The setup is definitely worth it though! I was able to contribute way more than I could with a traditional IRA, and the tax savings were significant.

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Thanks for sharing your experience! That "two hats" explanation really helps clarify the concept. Quick question - when you say your Solo 401k provider gave you documentation showing the breakdown, was that something you had to request specifically, or did they automatically provide it? I want to make sure I get all the right paperwork when I set mine up. Also, did you run into any issues with the contribution limits calculation? I keep seeing references to that 25% of net self-employment earnings formula and it seems pretty complicated to get right.

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