Can I skip Schedule C deductions to maximize Solo 401k contributions for my small business?
I have a small bookkeeping business that's my only source of income right now. I'm trying to figure out the smartest way to handle my taxes and retirement savings, and I'm wondering about Schedule C deductions versus maximizing my Solo 401k. Here's my situation: * I make about $20,000 per year from my bookkeeping clients * I spend roughly $4,000 annually on QuickBooks and other software * I want to contribute as much as possible to my Solo 401k I'm considering two options: Option 1: * $20,000 Income from bookkeeping * Claim $4,000 in business expenses on Schedule C * Solo 401k contribution: $16,000 * Net taxable income: $0 Option 2: * $20,000 Income from bookkeeping * Claim $0 in business expenses (just pay them out of pocket) * Solo 401k contribution: $20,000 * Net taxable income: $0 Either way, there's no tax liability since the income is below the Solo 401k contribution limits. But am I actually required to claim all legitimate business expenses on my Schedule C? I'd rather maximize my retirement contributions and just cover my business expenses with cash. Is this allowed or do I have to deduct everything?
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Amy Fleming
What you're asking about is actually a common question for small business owners. You're not required to take every possible deduction on your Schedule C. The tax code states you "may" deduct ordinary and necessary business expenses, not that you "must" deduct them. However, there's an important detail you're overlooking. Your Solo 401k contribution limit has two parts: the employee contribution (up to $22,500 in 2023) and the employer contribution (up to 25% of your net earnings). By not claiming expenses, your net earnings would be higher, potentially allowing for a larger "employer" contribution portion. By claiming your legitimate business expenses, you're actually presenting a more accurate picture of your business profitability, which is generally preferred. But technically speaking, there's no requirement that you must claim every expense you're entitled to.
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Alice Pierce
•Wait, I'm confused about something. If they don't claim the business expenses on Schedule C, wouldn't that mean they're paying more in self-employment taxes? Since SE tax is calculated on net profit? Also, does skipping legitimate deductions raise any red flags with the IRS?
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Amy Fleming
•You're absolutely right about the self-employment taxes. By not claiming business expenses, your net profit would be higher, which means you'd pay more in self-employment taxes (15.3% on that additional amount). That's an important consideration I should have mentioned. As for red flags, the IRS is generally more concerned when taxpayers claim excessive deductions rather than when they claim fewer deductions than they're entitled to. However, consistently showing unusually low expenses for your type of business could potentially stand out in their automated screening systems. The best practice is always honest and accurate reporting, but there's no rule saying you must claim every possible deduction.
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Kingston Bellamy
I did exactly what you're considering for my consulting business last year. I had about $25k in income and didn't claim about $3k in legitimate expenses so I could put more into my Solo 401k. BIG MISTAKE! My accountant later pointed out that I paid an extra $459 in self-employment taxes by doing this (15.3% of that $3k). The better approach would have been to claim all legitimate expenses, lower my SE taxes, and then just contribute more from my personal funds into the Solo 401k if I wanted to reach a certain retirement savings goal. You don't have to only contribute business income.
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Joy Olmedo
•But doesn't that defeat the purpose? If you're using personal funds anyway, then you're still out the same amount of money, just in a different form. Or am I missing something about how the math works out?
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Kingston Bellamy
•The key difference is the self-employment tax. When you don't claim legitimate business expenses, you pay an additional 15.3% in SE taxes on that amount. So in my example, by not claiming $3,000 in expenses, I paid an extra $459 in taxes. If I had claimed those expenses, I would have saved that $459 in taxes, and could have then contributed the full $3,000 from my personal funds to the Solo 401k if I wanted to. In effect, I would have had $459 more dollars total (either to contribute or keep). So mathematically, you're always better off claiming legitimate expenses and then making contributions from your after-tax personal funds if needed.
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Isaiah Cross
Has anyone actually checked if not claiming legit business expenses could trigger an audit? I've always been told that the IRS algorithms flag returns that don't match expected patterns for your industry. Like if most bookkeepers claim around 20-30% expenses but you claim zero, wouldn't that look weird?
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Kiara Greene
•Tax preparer here (not a CPA). The IRS does use a system called the Discriminant Information Function (DIF) that scores returns based on averages for your industry. Extremely low expenses can potentially raise your DIF score, but it's just one of many factors. Generally, understating deductions is less likely to trigger an audit than overstating them, but significant deviations from industry norms in either direction can increase scrutiny.
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