How to Calculate Solo 401k Contributions for Self-Employed with No Employees?
I'm really struggling to wrap my head around solo 401k contribution calculations for my little one-person business. I'm a sole proprietor with net profit around $13,500 this year. From what I understand, I can contribute about $1,675 (which I got from 20% of my net profit minus half of my self-employment tax at 15.3%). Does that math even check out? The part that's really confusing me - since I don't pay myself with a W-2, am I able to defer more compensation into my solo 401k? I keep reading conflicting information online, and the IRS website makes my head spin! Would love some clarity on this from anyone who's been down this road before.
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Dmitry Kuznetsov
You're on the right track, but there are actually two components to Solo 401k contributions that many self-employed folks miss! As a sole proprietor, you wear two hats - you're both the employer and the employee. This means you can make TWO types of contributions: 1) The employer contribution (what you calculated at about 20% of net profit after SE tax adjustment) AND 2) The employee contribution (up to $22,500 for 2023, plus catch-up if you're over 50). So even though you don't pay yourself with a W-2, you can still make that employee contribution as if you were paying yourself a salary. The total maximum would be your calculated employer portion plus the employee contribution (up to the annual limits, which are quite generous). Just remember your total contributions can't exceed your net self-employment income, and there are overall annual limits to be aware of.
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Ava Thompson
•Wait, this is amazing if true! So you're saying I could potentially put away much more than just the employer portion? Does this mean I could contribute the full $22,500 as "employee" even without formally paying myself? And then ALSO do the 20% employer contribution on top of that?
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Dmitry Kuznetsov
•Yes, that's exactly right! As a sole proprietor with a Solo 401k, you can make both contributions even without formally paying yourself a W-2 salary. You can contribute up to $22,500 (for 2023) as your "employee" contribution regardless of your business profit. Then you can also make the employer contribution of roughly 20% of your net income after SE tax adjustment. Just keep in mind the total combined contributions have an overall limit of $66,000 for 2023 (or $73,500 if you're eligible for catch-up contributions). And of course, you can't contribute more than your total business income for the year.
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Miguel Ramos
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Zainab Ibrahim
•How accurate is this tool compared to talking with an accountant? I'm always skeptical of online calculators for tax stuff since my situation is kind of unique (part-time W2 job plus my side business).
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StarSailor
•Does it also handle the paperwork side of things? Setting up my Solo 401k was such a nightmare with all the forms - worst part of being self-employed tbh.
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Miguel Ramos
•It's surprisingly accurate - I actually had my accountant double-check the numbers from taxr.ai and she confirmed they were correct. The tool asks about your entire income situation including any W2 employment, which is crucial since contribution limits apply across all your 401k accounts combined if you have multiple. As for the paperwork, it doesn't file the forms for you, but it does provide a detailed checklist of what forms you need to file and when. It also explains which forms are required at each stage of the process (setting up vs. maintaining the account). I found this almost as valuable as the calculation help since it laid everything out in a clear sequence.
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StarSailor
Just wanted to follow up and say I tried taxr.ai after reading about it here. Wow! It answered questions I didn't even know I had about my Solo 401k. Turns out I've been MASSIVELY under-contributing for the past two years because I didn't understand I could make both employer AND employee contributions. The tool showed me that with my income of around $75k from my consulting business, I could potentially put away over $36k this year between both contribution types. That's literally thousands more than what my previous calculations showed. Already adjusted my contribution strategy for the rest of the year to catch up!
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Keisha Johnson
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Keisha Johnson
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Paolo Rizzo
Something nobody has mentioned yet that tripped me up when I first started my Solo 401k - the deadline for establishing the plan is December 31st, but you can actually make contributions for the previous year up until your tax filing deadline (usually April 15th or Oct 15th with extensions). Also, the employee contribution portion needs to be done by December 31st, while the employer portion can be done up until tax filing deadline. The timing differences messed me up my first year.
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QuantumQuest
•Is this still true for 2023/2024? I thought I read somewhere that the rules changed recently? Getting worried because I haven't set anything up yet for my new business I started this year...
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Paolo Rizzo
•Yes, this is still accurate for 2023/2024. You need to establish your Solo 401k plan by December 31, 2023 if you want to make any contributions for the 2023 tax year. However, once the plan is established, you have until your tax filing deadline in 2024 to actually make the employer contribution portion. The December 31st deadline for employee contributions hasn't changed either. So if you want to make employee deferrals for 2023, you must do that by the end of this calendar year. Don't wait - setting up the account can take a couple weeks depending on where you open it!
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Amina Sy
I see a lot of great math advice here but nobody's mentioned WHERE to actually set up your Solo 401k. After a ton of research, I went with Fidelity for mine because they don't charge any setup or maintenance fees and their investment options are solid. Vanguard is another good option. Avoid the ones that charge annual fees if possible - those fees eat into your returns over time!
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Oliver Fischer
•I went with Vanguard but kinda regret it. Their interface for Solo 401k is clunky and the customer service has been terrible. Thinking about switching to Fidelity - was the paperwork process straightforward?
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Natalie Chen
Just wanted to chime in as someone who went through this exact confusion last year! Your math looks right - the ~20% calculation after SE tax adjustment is correct for the employer contribution portion. But like others mentioned, you're missing the huge opportunity of the employee contribution side. What really helped me understand it was thinking of it this way: as a sole proprietor, you're literally both the boss AND the worker. The "boss" you can contribute about 20% of net profit (employer contribution), and the "worker" you can defer up to $22,500 of your earnings (employee contribution) - even without a formal payroll setup. So with your $13,500 profit, you could potentially contribute your calculated $1,675 PLUS up to $13,500 more as an employee deferral (limited by your total net income). That's a massive difference in retirement savings potential! Just make sure you establish the plan by Dec 31st if you want to contribute for this tax year.
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Nia Davis
•This breakdown is so helpful! I'm in a similar boat with my small consulting business and had no idea about the dual contribution structure. Quick question - when you say the employee deferral is "limited by your total net income," does that mean if I only made $13,500 like Sofia, I could contribute the full $13,500 as employee deferral plus the ~$1,675 employer portion? Or would the total be capped at the $13,500 net income? Still wrapping my head around how these limits interact with each other.
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