Can I contribute to a solo 401k while working as a W2 employee with a side business?
Hey everyone! I recently started a small photography business as an LLC on the side of my regular 9-5 job. I'm looking into retirement options and came across the solo 401k. From what I've been reading, it seems like I can contribute to both my employer's 401k plan AND set up a solo 401k for my side business income. I'm trying to figure out how much I can actually put into this solo 401k. My photography gig brought in about $18,000 last year (after expenses), and I'm already contributing about $15,000 to my regular job's 401k. Can I really exceed the standard employee 401k contribution limits by using a solo 401k for my side business? I've heard something about being able to contribute up to 25% of the net income from my LLC, but I'm confused about how this works with my existing W2 situation. Also, would these contributions reduce my taxable income from the LLC? That would be a nice bonus. Anyone have experience with this setup who can share how they've structured their retirement savings between W2 employment and side business?
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Luca Russo
You're on the right track! Yes, you can absolutely contribute to a solo 401k while being a W2 employee. Here's how it works: The employee contribution limit for 2025 is $23,000 across ALL your 401k plans combined. So if you're already putting in $15,000 at your day job, you could contribute another $8,000 as the "employee" portion to your solo 401k. BUT here's the cool part - as the "employer" of your LLC, you can also make employer contributions to your solo 401k of up to 25% of your net self-employment income. This is completely separate from your employee contribution limits! So in your case with $18,000 net income from photography, you could potentially make an employer contribution of around $4,500 (25% of $18,000) on top of whatever employee contribution you make. And yes, these contributions absolutely reduce your taxable income from the LLC, which is a great tax advantage.
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NebulaNinja
•Thanks for explaining! So just to be clear, the $23,000 limit applies across both my regular job 401k and the solo 401k for the employee portion. But then I get this additional "employer hat" contribution that's separate. Do I need to open a special solo 401k account for this? And is there a deadline for setting it up for 2025 taxes?
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Luca Russo
•The $23,000 limit is exactly right - that's your total employee contribution limit across all 401k plans. The employer contribution is indeed separate and is where you get the additional tax advantage. Yes, you'll need to open a specific solo 401k account. Many brokerages offer them - Fidelity, Vanguard, Schwab, etc. For the 2025 tax year, you must establish the plan by December 31, 2025, though you can actually make the employer contribution until your tax filing deadline (including extensions) in 2026.
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Nia Wilson
I went through this exact situation last year with my consulting side gig! I found this amazing tool at https://taxr.ai that completely walked me through setting up my solo 401k while keeping my day job. It analyzed my W2 income and my LLC earnings, then calculated exactly how much I could contribute to maximize my tax benefits. What I loved most was how it explained the "employee" vs "employer" portions in simple terms and showed me how the 25% rule actually works with real numbers. It even helped me understand how these contributions affected my quarterly estimated taxes from my LLC. The tool literally saved me thousands in taxes by optimizing how much to put into each bucket. Totally worth checking out if you're trying to figure out the most tax-efficient strategy!
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Mateo Sanchez
•Does the tool actually connect to your accounts or do you have to manually enter everything? Also, does it help with filling out the actual tax forms at the end of the year? I've been using TurboTax but it gets confused with my side business.
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Aisha Mahmood
•I'm skeptical of tools like this. How do you know it's giving accurate advice? Tax laws change all the time and I've been burned before by online calculators that were outdated.
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Nia Wilson
•It doesn't connect to your accounts - you enter your information manually, which I actually preferred for security reasons. And yes, it does help with tax forms! It creates a detailed report showing exactly which forms you need and what goes where, which saved me tons of time when I was filing. The information is regularly updated with current tax laws - that's one thing I was impressed by. They clearly state when the calculations were last updated, and they had all the current contribution limits and rules. Much better than the random calculators I'd tried before.
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Mateo Sanchez
Just wanted to update after trying taxr.ai from the recommendation above. It was actually really helpful! I uploaded my W2 and some info about my Etsy shop earnings, and it broke down exactly how much I could contribute to my solo 401k. What surprised me was finding out I could put away about $5,200 more than I thought because of how the "employer contribution" part works. The tool explained that I was calculating my net earnings wrong - I wasn't accounting for the self-employment tax deduction properly. I've already opened my solo 401k account at Fidelity based on the recommendations. Honestly was way easier than the mess of spreadsheets I was trying to use before!
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Ethan Clark
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AstroAce
•Wait, how does this actually work? Do they just sit on hold for you or something? I spent like 2 hours on hold with the IRS last month and eventually gave up.
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Aisha Mahmood
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Yuki Kobayashi
Don't forget that you'll need to file Form 5500-EZ if your solo 401k assets exceed $250,000! I learned this the hard way last year. My side business did really well, and between my contributions and market growth, I crossed that threshold without realizing I had additional filing requirements. Also, not all solo 401k providers are equal. Some charge higher fees or don't allow for Roth contributions within the solo 401k. I personally use Vanguard for the low fees, but their platform doesn't support Roth solo 401k options if that's important to you.
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NebulaNinja
•Thanks for the Form 5500-EZ tip! I'm nowhere near $250k yet but good to know for the future. Are there any other forms I should be aware of just for setting up the solo 401k initially?
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Yuki Kobayashi
•For just setting up the plan initially, there's typically no filing requirement with the IRS. You'll complete the adoption agreement with whatever financial institution you choose for your solo 401k, but you don't need to send anything to the IRS at the start. Keep good records of your plan establishment date though. If you're audited, you'll need to prove the plan was established before year-end for any contributions you claim. Most providers will give you a plan establishment letter - save that document!
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Carmen Vega
Quick question for anyone with experience - if my side gig is seasonal (I make handcrafted items that sell mostly around holidays), can I still do the solo 401k thing? Like 80% of my side income comes in November and December, but I work my regular job year-round.
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Luca Russo
•Absolutely! The timing of when you earn the side income doesn't matter for solo 401k eligibility. What matters is that you have self-employment income for the year. You can even wait until after your busy season to see how much you earned, then make your solo 401k contributions strategically. Remember that while the plan needs to be established by December 31st, you can actually make the employer contribution portion until your tax filing deadline (including extensions).
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Carmen Vega
•Thanks! That's super helpful. Guess I'll wait until after the holiday rush to see exactly how much I can put away. Seems like a good way to reduce my tax hit from my seasonal sales.
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Malik Johnson
This is such a great discussion! I'm in a similar boat with my freelance web design work alongside my day job. One thing I wanted to add that hasn't been mentioned yet - make sure to consider the administrative burden of maintaining a solo 401k. While the tax benefits are fantastic (I saved about $3,200 in taxes last year), you do need to keep detailed records of your business income and expenses. I use QuickBooks to track everything, which makes it much easier when it's time to calculate my contribution limits. Also, if you're thinking about expanding your side business in the future, the solo 401k becomes even more valuable. As your self-employment income grows, that 25% employer contribution can really add up. Last year I was able to put away an extra $6,800 beyond my regular 401k limits! Just make sure you're treating your LLC seriously as a business - the IRS can get picky if it looks more like a hobby. Keep good records and try to show you're operating with a profit motive.
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Brielle Johnson
•Great point about the administrative side! I'm just getting started with my photography LLC and already feeling a bit overwhelmed with the record-keeping aspect. Do you have any tips for organizing business expenses specifically for solo 401k calculation purposes? I'm using a basic spreadsheet right now but wondering if QuickBooks is worth the investment for a small side business. Also, how do you handle equipment purchases that span multiple years - like if I buy a $2,000 camera, does that all count against this year's net income for 401k purposes or do I need to depreciate it? The profit motive thing is interesting too - my photography is definitely something I enjoy, but I am actively trying to grow it into a real business. Any red flags I should avoid to make sure the IRS sees it as legitimate?
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