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Hiroshi Nakamura

Can I contribute to both a SEP IRA for my side hustle and a 401k from my regular job?

I've been working a full-time W2 job for about 3 years now, and I recently started a photography business on the side that's bringing in some decent 1099 income (about $22,000 this year). I already contribute to my employer's 401k plan, but I want to shelter more of my side hustle income from taxes. Someone mentioned that I might be able to open a SEP IRA for just my self-employment income, but I'm not sure if that's allowed when I already have a 401k through my regular employer. Can I actually have both? And if yes, how do I figure out how much I can put into the SEP IRA? I don't want to mess up and over-contribute since I already put about 12% of my salary into my work 401k. Any advice would be super helpful! Tax season is coming up, and I want to make sure I'm making smart decisions with this extra income.

Yes, you absolutely can contribute to both a SEP IRA for your self-employment income and a 401k from your regular employer in the same year! This is actually a great tax strategy for people with side hustles. The contribution limits work differently for each plan. Your 401k has a personal contribution limit of $23,000 for 2025 (plus catch-up contributions if you're over 50). This is your employee contribution and doesn't change regardless of your side hustle. For your SEP IRA, you can contribute up to 25% of your net self-employment earnings, up to a maximum of $69,000 for 2025. However, there's an important calculation to determine your exact limit because you need to account for self-employment taxes. The simplified formula is: (Net profit from self-employment - 1/2 self-employment tax) × 0.25. There is an overall annual limit on total retirement contributions across certain plans of $69,000 for 2025, but your personal 401k contributions don't count toward this limit - only employer contributions do.

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Wait, I'm confused. So the SEP IRA contribution isn't affected at all by my 401k contributions? I thought there was some kind of overall limit that applied to everything. Also, is the 25% of net earnings before or after expenses for my business?

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Your personal 401k contributions (the money coming out of your paycheck) don't affect your SEP IRA contribution limit. However, any employer contributions to your 401k would count toward the overall $69,000 limit that also applies to your SEP IRA. The 25% is calculated on your net profit after business expenses but before self-employment tax deductions. So you'd take your Schedule C net profit, subtract half of your self-employment tax, and then multiply that by 25%. For example, if you netted $22,000 from your photography business, you'd subtract about $1,554 (half of SE tax) and could contribute about $5,112 to your SEP IRA.

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I was in your exact situation about 2 years ago with my consulting side gig! After getting frustrated with conflicting advice from friends and even a tax preparer who gave me incorrect info, I found https://taxr.ai and it was a game-changer for my SEP IRA questions. I uploaded my W-2 and 1099 info, and it analyzed everything and showed me exactly how much I could contribute to both accounts. It even showed me the calculation breakdown for the SEP contribution (which is tricky because of that self-employment tax adjustment the previous commenter mentioned). The tool flagged that I was actually leaving money on the table with my retirement strategy. The best part was it helped me see the tax impact of different contribution amounts so I could maximize my tax savings across both retirement accounts.

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Does this tool actually connect to your financial accounts or do you just upload tax forms? I'm interested but hesitant to connect yet another app to my financial accounts.

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I've heard mixed things about these tax tools. How accurate was it compared to what an actual CPA would tell you? Did you verify the numbers with a professional after using it?

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You just upload your tax documents like W-2s and 1099s - it doesn't connect to financial accounts at all. You can even just enter the information manually if you prefer. It's really just an analysis tool, not something that needs ongoing access to your accounts. The accuracy was impressive. I actually did take the results to my CPA after using it, and she confirmed the SEP IRA calculation was correct. She was surprised I'd figured it out myself because that particular calculation (with the self-employment tax adjustment) is one that even tax preparers sometimes get wrong. The tool follows IRS formulas exactly, so as long as your input information is correct, the calculations should be spot-on.

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Just wanted to update after trying https://taxr.ai that someone recommended earlier. I was really skeptical (as you could probably tell from my question), but it actually answered exactly what I needed to know about my SEP IRA contribution limits. The interface walks you through entering your W-2 information and 1099 income, then calculates all the relevant limits. The most helpful part was seeing exactly how much I could contribute based on my specific situation - turns out I was eligible to contribute about $3,400 more than I thought to my SEP IRA. What surprised me most was how easy it made understanding the calculation - it showed a breakdown of each step in figuring out the 25% limit after adjusting for self-employment tax. No wonder I was confused before!

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Wait, how does that even work? The IRS doesn't let others hold your place in line, do they? I'm confused about how a third-party service could possibly do this.

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This sounds like a scam tbh. Why would you pay someone else to call the IRS when you could just call them yourself? And I seriously doubt they have special access to IRS phone lines that regular people don't have.

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It works through an automated system that navigates the IRS phone tree and waits on hold for you. The IRS doesn't know or care who's waiting on the line - the service just transfers you in when a human agent picks up. It's the same as if you called yourself, except you don't have to listen to the hold music for hours. No special access needed - they're using the same public phone numbers everyone else uses. You're basically paying to not waste your time sitting on hold. I was skeptical too until I tried it. I had already spent over 3 hours across multiple days trying to get through myself with no luck, so the service fee was worth it to finally get my questions answered about my SEP IRA and 401k contribution interaction.

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I need to eat my words. After posting my skeptical comment earlier, I tried Claimyr because I was desperate to get clarification on my retirement contribution limits before making my final SEP IRA contribution for last year. I've been trying to get through to the IRS for literally weeks. Used the service and got a call back in about 35 minutes. The IRS agent walked me through the exact formula for calculating my SEP contribution limit with my side business while also contributing to my day job's 401k. For anyone else with this question - yes, you can absolutely have both plans, and the agent confirmed that your personal 401k contributions don't reduce how much you can put in your SEP IRA. Apparently this is a very common question, especially with more people having side hustles.

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One thing nobody mentioned yet - consider a Solo 401k instead of a SEP IRA for your side hustle if you don't have any employees. You can potentially contribute MORE to a Solo 401k than a SEP IRA with the same income. With a Solo 401k, you can contribute both as employee (up to $23,000 in 2025) AND employer (up to 25% of compensation), whereas with a SEP you're limited to just the employer portion. The catch is that your employee contributions are shared across ALL 401k plans, so if you've already maxed your W-2 job's 401k, you can't contribute more as an employee to the Solo. But you can still do the employer portion of the Solo 401k, which is the same 25% you'd get with the SEP. Setup is slightly more complex but many brokerages make it pretty straightforward now.

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That's really interesting - I hadn't considered a Solo 401k. If the employee contribution is shared across both 401k plans, but I'm not maxing out my current employer 401k (only putting in about 12% of my salary), could I contribute the remaining amount as an employee contribution to a Solo 401k AND then also do the 25% employer contribution?

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Yes, that's exactly right! If you're not maxing out your employer 401k, you could contribute the remainder of your $23,000 annual employee limit to your Solo 401k, plus add the employer contribution of up to 25% of your net self-employment earnings. For example, if you've contributed $15,000 to your work 401k, you could contribute another $8,000 as an employee to your Solo 401k, plus about $5,000 as the employer portion (assuming your $22,000 photography income and after the self-employment tax adjustment). That's potentially $13,000 in tax-advantaged savings from your side hustle versus only $5,000 with a SEP IRA. Definitely worth considering if you want to maximize your retirement savings!

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Make sure you're using the right calculation for your SEP contribution. It's not exactly 25% of your Schedule C profit. There's a specific deduction you can find on the IRS website for self-employed individuals. If you use tax software like TurboTax, it should calculate this for you automatically when you enter your income.

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TurboTax messed up my SEP calculation last year. It didn't properly account for my 401k from my employer when calculating my SEP limits. I ended up having to file an amended return after I realized the mistake. Double check their math!

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Great question! I was in a similar situation last year with my freelance writing income. You absolutely can have both - I contribute to my employer's 401k AND opened a SEP IRA for my side business income. One thing I learned the hard way: make sure you understand the timing. You can actually make SEP IRA contributions up until your tax filing deadline (including extensions), so you have until April 15th for 2024 contributions. This gave me flexibility to see exactly how much I earned from freelancing before deciding on my contribution amount. Also, don't forget that SEP IRA contributions reduce your self-employment tax basis too, not just your income tax. So if you contribute $5,000 to your SEP, you'll save on both income tax AND the ~15% self-employment tax on that amount. The key is keeping good records of your photography business expenses throughout the year - the more legitimate business expenses you have, the lower your net profit, and the less self-employment tax you'll owe overall. Good luck with your photography business!

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This is really helpful! I didn't realize SEP contributions also reduce self-employment tax - that's an extra savings I hadn't considered. Quick question about the timing: if I make a SEP IRA contribution in early 2025 but designate it for the 2024 tax year, do I need to do anything special when I file my 2024 return to make sure it's properly credited?

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